# The SIH (Suffer in Hell) Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 13, 2024, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sih-suffer-in-hell-thread/1000217 "2024-04-13T02:46:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2025, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sih-suffer-in-hell-thread/1000217/101 "2025-08-21T22:17:14Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Dobson made it his life’s work to bring misery and hardship to millions through lies, hypocrisy and grift, all in the name of Christ. I actually listened to him lots when I was a kid - not through choice, but because the Zimbabwean radio service for some inexplicable reason had him scheduled just before [The Goon Show](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Goon_Show), which for those unaquainted, is a surrealist 1950s era BBC radio comedy featuring Spike Milligan. So I listened to Dobson drone on, as I impatiently waited for the real entertainment. ---
**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2025, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sih-suffer-in-hell-thread/1000217/102 "2025-08-21T22:50:47Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Focus On The Funeral. Given how much evangelical folks like to turn funerals and memorial services into altar calls, I’m sure that wherever Dobson is now, he’s looking up at that comment and smiling. ---
**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2025, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sih-suffer-in-hell-thread/1000217/103 "2025-08-21T22:56:00Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Focus On The Funeral. Now that’s a funeral protest I could get behind. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2025, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sih-suffer-in-hell-thread/1000217/104 "2025-08-21T23:03:57Z")
Where’s Phred Phelps when we need him? ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2025, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sih-suffer-in-hell-thread/1000217/105 "2025-08-22T02:52:40Z")
I’m seeing lots of comments on Facebook from people who are, or have been, estranged from their parents because they followed Dobson’s rules to the letter. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2025, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sih-suffer-in-hell-thread/1000217/106 "2025-08-22T03:32:44Z")
How so? ---
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2025, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sih-suffer-in-hell-thread/1000217/107 "2025-08-22T05:30:58Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > I’m seeing lots of comments on Facebook from people who are, or have been, estranged from their parents because they followed Dobson’s rules to the letter. So these people are estranged from their families because they followed the tenets of Focus on the Family too closely? How ironic. Incidentally, who is the last “they” in your post referring to? The parents? ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2025, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sih-suffer-in-hell-thread/1000217/108 "2025-08-22T06:06:47Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > the Bible is rather vague about the specific details of posthumous housing assignment processes I like to imagine that Saint Peter has a little red button that triggers a springboard which propels the unwelcome arrival into an array of giant pinball bumpers to be bounced back and forth a few dozen times before being deposited onto a spiral slide to Hades. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2025, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sih-suffer-in-hell-thread/1000217/109 "2025-08-22T06:22:23Z")
…to a Pointer Sisters soundtrack. _1-2-3 4 5…_ ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2025, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sih-suffer-in-hell-thread/1000217/110 "2025-08-24T12:21:02Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Where’s Phred Phelps when we need him? Awaiting the arrival of his roommate. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2025, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sih-suffer-in-hell-thread/1000217/111 "2025-08-25T00:19:12Z")
Things are busy! I can’t supply the names, but two fellas showed up at a Houston guy’s house with bulletproof vests, “badges”, and guns, claiming they were there to serve a warrant. When the homeowner refused to open the door, they opened fire, and he did as well and killed both of them. Iced, but in a warmer place. [https://www.khou.com/article/news/crime/men-impersonating-police-shot-bellnole-drive/285-931f39d1-2f01-4654-b56a-cc11abaaaf72](https://www.khou.com/article/news/crime/men-impersonating-police-shot-bellnole-drive/285-931f39d1-2f01-4654-b56a-cc11abaaaf72) ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2025, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sih-suffer-in-hell-thread/1000217/112 "2025-08-25T01:03:29Z")
Well… when fake cops trying a home invasion bang on your door to rob/kill you… you can wait until they shoot through your door ( before you shoot through your door… ) Or you can prep ahead of time and pay for a really solid hardened bullet proof re-enforced door that nobody can shoot through… or kick down. I honestly don’t know which one is right. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2025, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sih-suffer-in-hell-thread/1000217/113 "2025-08-25T01:12:52Z")
Quoted ( with permission ) : “As the rapist-in-chief restricts full disclosure of the Epstein files and takes steps to release Maxwell from prison in return for her silence, it would be a shame if this brief interview with one of Epstein’s victims went viral. You know what to do.” @epstein @EpsteinFiles > **[Survivor Sarah Ransome says she hopes Ghislaine Maxwell dies in prison](https://news.sky.com/video/survivor-sarah-ransome-says-she-hopes-ghislaine-maxwell-dies-in-prison-12642044)** > > Victims of Maxwell and her former partner, Jeffrey Epstein, have been arriving in court. Sarah Ransome said she hopes Ghislaine Maxwell 'dies in prison' with Maxwell's lawyers arguing that between four and five years in prison would be an... ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2025, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sih-suffer-in-hell-thread/1000217/114 "2025-08-25T08:01:14Z")
> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#): > > Or you can prep ahead of time and pay for a really solid hardened bullet proof re-enforced door that nobody can shoot through… or kick down. Are those an actual thing? Sounds expensive. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2025, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sih-suffer-in-hell-thread/1000217/115 "2025-08-25T11:22:17Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Are those an actual thing? Sounds expensive. If you have to money, you can get anything installed… but maybe they’ll just shoot you through a window and climb in istead. A door like that would be massively heavy; I’m guessing no standard door frame could hold it… and if it sags the home ownere would be the one climbing in and out of a window. Why do I believe it is possible? I’ve seen large old-school homes several towns away from mine that were sold when the owners died of old age. The new owners were trying to remove and sell a bank vault door (!) in the home’s basement. The funny thing is, this wasn’t the first bank vault door listed for sale. Maybe I’m looking at it wrong, but if you can afford to install a bank vault door in your basement, you can afford to throw enough money at your fears to find someone who will sell you a bullet proof front door. PS- This is a bank vault door. When bank branches close down and the building gets demo’d, these things need to be removed. I guess somebody buys them. [![](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTZDFucLGE7_5J2XwHZ0MXKqbNkleSwJXh8DA&s) ](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTZDFucLGE7_5J2XwHZ0MXKqbNkleSwJXh8DA&s) ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2025, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sih-suffer-in-hell-thread/1000217/116 "2025-08-25T12:21:44Z")
I don’t know what you consider expensive, **[here](https://www.bunker-bssd.de/Panzertuer-PT1)** is a panzertür PT1 (whatever that means, probably a DIN norm or so) new for unser 5,000 €uro. In _Kleinanzeigen_ (formerly known as eBay) you can buy ~~used~~ vintage steel doors from old bunkers for 500 €uro (VB means negotiable), but only if you **[pick it up yourself](https://www.kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/bunkertuer-stahltuer-massiv-antik-altbau-panzertuer-schutzraumtuer/3134973311-84-3366)**. I’ll pass on that one, not my kind of humor. But there are several on offer, seems to be a thing. And **[this one looks suitable as a front door](https://www.kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/t30-h3-1-stahltuer-endlackiert-weiss-ral-9016-1000x2000-din-links/3014330268-87-1373)**, but is not as resistant. It’s steel, though, and only 300 €uro new. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2025, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sih-suffer-in-hell-thread/1000217/117 "2025-08-25T13:51:27Z")
The article is adblocker-blocked so I didn’t get whatever details may be past the lede. Interesting that the 2 attackers had “bulletproof vests” and yet were killed. While the homeowner who was presumably a) surprised, and b) wearing whatever nontactical gear, survived. Perhaps they brought handguns to an assault-rifle fight. I’ll be interested to learn how the local cops (and the FBI) handle this case and how much investigation there will be into the decedents’ friends and online associates. These two might well be a small part of a much larger group of wannabe RW death squads. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2025, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sih-suffer-in-hell-thread/1000217/118 "2025-08-25T15:12:44Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Interesting that the 2 attackers had “bulletproof vests” and yet were killed. While the homeowner who was presumably a) surprised, and b) wearing whatever nontactical gear, survived. Perhaps they brought handguns to an assault-rifle fight. Always a possibility. And that’s not counting on them wearing POS bootleg TEMU armor or, hell, even _Airsoft_ armor, because the idea was to just **look** like rogue ICE to cow your target into not resisting to begin with. The homeowner was smart enough to not stand directly behind the door. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2025, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sih-suffer-in-hell-thread/1000217/119 "2025-08-25T15:49:53Z")
A reminder that even having a hardened bunker in your home is worthless unless you use it. And it might attract the wrong crowd. > **[Murder at Kentucky mansion possibly motivated by home’s doomsday bunker, KSP...](https://www.fox19.com/2022/02/25/murder-kentucky-mansion-possibly-motivated-by-homes-doomsday-bunker-ksp-says/)** > > The bunker was built to withstand a Seismic 12 earthquake, the online listing says. Note that while they caught the guy, the case apparently still hasn’t gone to trial. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2025, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sih-suffer-in-hell-thread/1000217/120 "2025-08-25T16:04:05Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > [Murder at Kentucky mansion possibly motivated by home’s doomsday bunker, KSP says](https://www.fox19.com/2022/02/25/murder-kentucky-mansion-possibly-motivated-by-homes-doomsday-bunker-ksp-says/) What the hell is a “Seismic 12 earthquake”-the Earth splits in two, but the vault survives? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sih-suffer-in-hell-thread/1000217.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sih-suffer-in-hell-thread/1000217.md?page=7)