# The silence on Biden is deafening

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-silence-on-biden-is-deafening/390411>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [February 1, 2007, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-silence-on-biden-is-deafening/390411 "2007-02-01T14:24:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2007, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-silence-on-biden-is-deafening/390411/141 "2007-02-04T23:51:17Z")

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[QUOTE=Apos]  
You really have no integrity at all, do you?  
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- ::: sigh :::\*

And this is also not appropriate in **GD**.

Leave the personal insults for the **Pit** , folks.

[/Moderating]

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2007, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-silence-on-biden-is-deafening/390411/142 "2007-02-06T04:54:10Z")

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[QUOTE=lowbrass]  
And unfortunely, the article you linked to _still_ presented the quote without the pause and the intervening word from the other person, thus preserving the incorrect interpretation.  
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That’s definitely a problem.

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> You don’t see any difference between a person who perhaps didn’t express himself as well as he could, and a person who made a blatantly racist statement?

Of course I see the difference. In reality, I don’t think the difference is that simple. I think the likely third option is that Biden said something that revealed some unconscious prejudices.

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**Author:** ![lowbrass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dc4da7/32.png) [@lowbrass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lowbrass)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2007, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-silence-on-biden-is-deafening/390411/143 "2007-02-06T10:31:02Z")

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[QUOTE=Marley23]  
That’s definitely a problem.

Of course I see the difference.

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Thank God for small favors.

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> In reality, I don’t think the difference is that simple.

I didn’t say the _issue_ was simple; I said understanding that Biden did not intend to convey the meaning that Obama is the first articulate African-American, ever, is simple.

Right? You do agree that Biden did not say that, correct? We are on the same page there, aren’t we?

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> I think the likely third option is that Biden said something that revealed some unconscious prejudices.

Perhaps, but then that has nothing to do with my original point. You have essentially started a new topic.

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2007, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-silence-on-biden-is-deafening/390411/144 "2007-02-06T13:09:03Z")

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[QUOTE=David Simmons]  
I turned 84 last December and I suppose you can lop off the first couple of years. 🙂  
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I like you. You should really start getting younger so you can stick around longer!

-Joe

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2007, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-silence-on-biden-is-deafening/390411/145 "2007-02-06T14:19:43Z")

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[QUOTE=lowbrass]  
Right? You do agree that Biden did not say that, correct? We are on the same page there, aren’t we?  
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Yes. Although I don’t think anybody has interpreted Biden’s remarks to mean ‘Obama is the first articulate African-American ever.’

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> Perhaps, but then that has nothing to do with my original point. You have essentially started a new topic.

Your opinion on the topic is fascinating and I’ll ask someone to write it down. But your options - racist statement/innocent slip of the tongue - were too simple in my opinion.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2007, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-silence-on-biden-is-deafening/390411/146 "2007-02-06T14:50:54Z")

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[QUOTE=ralph124c]  
\Anybody know how much Biden has spend on hair transplants?  
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If it was more than $1.98, he got ripped off.

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