# The Simpsons/Cleveland Show/American Dad!; 18 April 2010 (open spoilers)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 19, 2010, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-simpsons-cleveland-show-american-dad-18-april-2010-open-spoilers/536578 "2010-04-19T00:04:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2010, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-simpsons-cleveland-show-american-dad-18-april-2010-open-spoilers/536578/1 "2010-04-19T00:04:56Z")

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[QUOTE=The Simpsons]  
Homer befriends Chief Wiggum.  
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[QUOTE=Cleveland Show]  
Cleveland Jr and Roberta take a school trip.  
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[QUOTE=American Dad!]  
Roger kisses Francine after drinking too much.  
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Hmm, everything else is new, but Family Guy seems to be a rerun.

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2010, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-simpsons-cleveland-show-american-dad-18-april-2010-open-spoilers/536578/2 "2010-04-19T00:22:49Z")

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Pst…it’s the 18th. \>\_\>

Anyway, the B plot of the Simpsons is confusing me.

1. Is Bakugan really popular enough to warrant the parody, let alone the ‘drugs’ analogy?
2. ‘It makes Digimon look like Pokemon’? Seriously, guys? I loved Digimon, but there was never any chance of it being a Pokemon killer. (As evidence I present the fact that Pokemon is still around, and I doubt anyone Bart’s age even remembers Digimon.)

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2010, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-simpsons-cleveland-show-american-dad-18-april-2010-open-spoilers/536578/3 "2010-04-19T00:46:52Z")

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> [@Tengu](#):
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> Pst…it’s the 18th. \>\_\>…

Whoops! :o Also Cleveland Show is a repeat too. :smack: The Simpsons was pretty good. I actually enjoyed both plots.

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**Author:** ![Markxxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@Markxxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Markxxx)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2010, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-simpsons-cleveland-show-american-dad-18-april-2010-open-spoilers/536578/4 "2010-04-19T14:45:48Z")

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Not a bad episode, but a retread. Homer + Wiggum = Friends is the same thinking as Bart + Ralph = Friends.

I did like some of Homer’s arrests

See his [arrest record here](http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/3951/homerrecord.jpg)

I love the “expried Social Security Number” misdemeanor charge 😃

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2010, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-simpsons-cleveland-show-american-dad-18-april-2010-open-spoilers/536578/5 "2010-04-19T17:51:19Z")

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Hee hee. “Strangling a Minor.” “Unlicensed Snowplow.” “Burning Man-Bra in Public.” 😃

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**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2010, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-simpsons-cleveland-show-american-dad-18-april-2010-open-spoilers/536578/6 "2010-04-19T18:28:04Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> Hee hee. “Strangling a Minor.” “Unlicensed Snowplow.” “Burning Man-Bra in Public.” 😃

Nice, however, I’m a little melancholic about the advent of freeze-frame gags that cannot be read without HDTV reception.

(I didn’t actually try, but the impression of the computer I got in that scene was just little squiggle lines, not ‘I bet I could read that if I freeze-framed the DVR’)

☹

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2010, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-simpsons-cleveland-show-american-dad-18-april-2010-open-spoilers/536578/7 "2010-04-19T19:01:02Z")

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(Do I need a standard disclaimer every week to say I only watch the Simpsons?)

I thought both plots of the Simpsons were pretty funny. Chief Wiggim and Homer dynamic was pretty good and wasn’t used since Marge did the Thelma and Louise bit several years ago.

The resolution to both plots were kind of abrupt and I think they could have done more with the Battle Balls and/or Marge mistakingly thinking they were drugs, but it seems like they barely touched on it, then Bart flushed them all because Marge thought they were kind of cool.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2010, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-simpsons-cleveland-show-american-dad-18-april-2010-open-spoilers/536578/8 "2010-04-19T19:29:51Z")

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> [@Markxxx](#):
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> Not a bad episode, but a retread. Homer + Wiggum = Friends is the same thinking as Bart + Ralph = Friends.

I thought it was more like the one where Bart became friends with Nelson, which was an excellent episode. But they’ve covered this ground a couple of times before. This one was okay. I liked Wiggum saying Homer’s drunk and disorderly behavior at Moe’s was understandable “because [his] sports team lost.” I really prefer Wiggum as the corrupt and venal cop to the guy saving the day, so I wasn’t crazy about the ending- although I did like the fact that he stayed corrupt while being friends with Homer. The Bart story was short but I thought it was good.

> [@Tengu](#):
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> Pst…it’s the 18th. \>\_\>

I fixed this.

> [@](#):
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> 1. Is Bakugan really popular enough to warrant the parody, let alone the ‘drugs’ analogy?

It’s not an analogy, it’s a joke about Skinner being paranoid.

> [@](#):
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> 1. ‘It makes Digimon look like Pokemon’? Seriously, guys? I loved Digimon, but there was never any chance of it being a Pokemon

You realize most of the people watching the show (certainly me) have absolutely no idea about the intricacies of Digimon, Pokemon, and this Bakugan thing I had never heard of until just now, right? The joke is that it’s a comparison with no frame of reference.

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**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-simpsons-cleveland-show-american-dad-18-april-2010-open-spoilers/536578/9 "2010-04-20T05:28:16Z")

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“We think Bart may be dealing drugs”

“No! He doesn’t have the math skills”  
Funniest line in the whole episode. Although I didn’t like the companion line of “I’m not on drugs, not til you raise my allowance”. I always figured Bart as a precocious little scamp who did pranks and stuff, but no _real_ harm. As a person who is against drugs it kinda made me sad to think that Bart would do them…since that’s not really his bag. Not saying that that’s what the writers intended or would ever send Bart that way (at least I don’t think he has before, but then again I’m not well versed in Simpsons history) I just didn’t like the fact they left the door open. But that’s just me…

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-simpsons-cleveland-show-american-dad-18-april-2010-open-spoilers/536578/10 "2010-04-20T05:31:14Z")

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> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#):
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> Funniest line in the whole episode. Although I didn’t like the companion line of “I’m not on drugs, not til you raise my allowance”. I always figured Bart as a precocious little scamp who did pranks and stuff, but no _real_ harm. As a person who is against drugs it kinda made me sad to think that Bart would do them…since that’s not really his bag. Not saying that that’s what the writers intended or would ever send Bart that way (at least I don’t think he has before, but then again I’m not well versed in Simpsons history) I just didn’t like the fact they left the door open. But that’s just me…

Future Bart was a pothead in the “Lisa Simpson, President” episode.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-simpsons-cleveland-show-american-dad-18-april-2010-open-spoilers/536578/11 "2010-04-20T17:30:48Z")

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> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#):
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> “We think Bart may be dealing drugs”
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> “No! He doesn’t have the math skills”  
> Funniest line in the whole episode.

Agreed.

> [@](#):
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> Although I didn’t like the companion line of “I’m not on drugs, not til you raise my allowance”.

Really? I had no problem with this. I can’t see how it’s a big deal given that they’ve had so many episodes that imply Bart’s going to be a loser. It’s not like it would be out of character for him to do drugs at some point. It’s not like he is going to be Jimbo, Dolph and Kearney, who are teenager stoners while still in elementary school- and Kearney has a kid. By the way, did anyone else notice that the group of bums included John Swartzwelder?

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**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-simpsons-cleveland-show-american-dad-18-april-2010-open-spoilers/536578/12 "2010-04-20T17:37:10Z")

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If Bart never does a little weed in his life time, then I never knew Bart.

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**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-simpsons-cleveland-show-american-dad-18-april-2010-open-spoilers/536578/13 "2010-04-20T17:38:03Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Agreed.  
> Really? I had no problem with this. I can’t see how it’s a big deal given that they’ve had so many episodes that imply Bart’s going to be a loser. It’s not like it would be out of character for him to do drugs at some point. It’s not like he is going to be Jimbo, Dolph and Kearney, who are teenager stoners while still in elementary school- and Kearney has a kid. By the way, did anyone else notice that the group of bums included John Swartzwelder?

I know it wouldn’t be out of character or anything…and I do now remember the dreaded “futures” episode. But I guess I’m just old fashioned and want the people I like (fictional or non) to end up being the best of themselves.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-simpsons-cleveland-show-american-dad-18-april-2010-open-spoilers/536578/14 "2010-04-20T17:49:01Z")

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> [@chrisk](#):
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> Nice, however, I’m a little melancholic about the advent of freeze-frame gags that cannot be read without HDTV reception.
> 
> (I didn’t actually try, but the impression of the computer I got in that scene was just little squiggle lines, not ‘I bet I could read that if I freeze-framed the DVR’)
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> ☹

I clicked the link in **Markxxx’s** post. It was quite easy to read on my PC screen.

Although, I do feel your pain. I doubt I could have read it on my TV screen, either.

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**Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-simpsons-cleveland-show-american-dad-18-april-2010-open-spoilers/536578/15 "2010-04-20T21:09:59Z")

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Wasn’t it implied that Bart tried the “reefer” in season 18’s “Jazzy and the Pussycats”?
