# The sitting president of the United States of America tweeted this...

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [April 24, 2019, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sitting-president-of-the-united-states-of-america-tweeted-this/832975 "2019-04-24T04:42:33Z")\
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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2019, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sitting-president-of-the-united-states-of-america-tweeted-this/832975/21 "2019-04-24T16:37:29Z")

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> [@Icarus](#):
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> Real balls means being secure enough to not respond to criticism. Weakness is getting worked up over every perceived slight.

That’s just what the libs WANT you to think!  
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**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2019, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sitting-president-of-the-united-states-of-america-tweeted-this/832975/22 "2019-04-24T16:50:14Z")

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> [@penultima\_thule](#):
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> What about all those brilliant checks and balances for governance devised by that much lauded Founding Fathers; we used to cop smug lectures here over their genius?

I’m all for checks and balances even if we occasionally end up with a Bush. But there’s no way they could ever imagined someone like Trump. Even very bad, corrupt presidents of the past at least made some passing attempt at governing the country. Even if they were terrible at it or their views were skewed at least most of them did what they thought was right. I don’t believe for one second Trump is trying to do the “right thing”.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2019, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sitting-president-of-the-united-states-of-america-tweeted-this/832975/23 "2019-04-24T17:04:21Z")

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> [@penultima\_thule](#):
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> What about all those brilliant checks and balances for governance devised by that much lauded Founding Fathers; we used to cop smug lectures here over their genius?

The third reply to your, I presume, rhetorical question.

The purpose of checks and balances is not to oust a president that lots of people don’t like, who doesn’t act like an adult, who is corrupt, and who has no understanding whatever of how our government works. The purpose of checks and balances (among other things) is to make sure that one corrupt branch does not make the whole government corrupt, and that the other two branches have means of keeping the corrupt branch from steaming too far off the rails. So far, in my view, high marks for achieving that purpose. Considering the number of push-backs he has gotten even from his own staff, let alone from Congress and the judiciary, I don’t think people realize how much worse it would be without checks and balances.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2019, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sitting-president-of-the-united-states-of-america-tweeted-this/832975/24 "2019-04-24T18:12:17Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Originally Posted by \*\*manson1972 \*\*  
> It’s about time we have a President that has the balls to stand up to those people who constantly lie and attack him!

OMG, this made me laugh right out loud. You’re collecting material for a stand-up act, amirite? Got to admit, you had the board going for a good long while, but you just outed yourself as a comedian! Well done and best of luck in your career. 😃

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**Author:** ![Critical\_Mass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f1d935/32.png) [@Critical\_Mass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Critical_Mass)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2019, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sitting-president-of-the-united-states-of-america-tweeted-this/832975/25 "2019-04-24T18:18:05Z")

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As a non-American, my shock and disappointment is that his schtick still plays well to a huge part of the American population.

My sense of America being a land of decorum, tradition, and respect was an illusion.

My fear is that the baseness that lurks at the surface of American society, and feeds on the vulgarity and chaos by the president, is present in my country and other parts of the world. And that the American model of politics may play well here too with politicians emboldened by the success of your president.

And equally disappointing, things will never be the same even once the president is no longer in office.

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**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2019, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sitting-president-of-the-united-states-of-america-tweeted-this/832975/26 "2019-04-24T20:41:11Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> It’s about time we have a President that has the balls to stand up to those people who constantly lie and attack him!

I’m not familiar with all of the views of all of the posters on this board so I assumed this was parody. Reading responses I’m not so sure.

Tell me, are you serious?

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2019, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sitting-president-of-the-united-states-of-america-tweeted-this/832975/27 "2019-04-24T20:44:58Z")

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No. He isn’t.

That’s ok, these are parody-resistant times

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**Author:** ![snoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@snoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snoe)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2019, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sitting-president-of-the-united-states-of-america-tweeted-this/832975/28 "2019-04-24T21:34:10Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> It’s occurred to me how weird it is that Obama is bracketed by George W Bush and Donald Trump. After everyone seemed to agree that GWB was the worst president ever, the Republican base seemed to say, “Well, we can beat that.”

You might like Ta-Nehisi Coates’s essay about how Trump is our first white president. [Donald Trump Is the First White President - The Atlantic](https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/10/the-first-white-president-ta-nehisi-coates/537909/)

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**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sitting-president-of-the-united-states-of-america-tweeted-this/832975/29 "2019-04-25T00:53:56Z")

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> [@Hari\_Seldon](#):
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> The first thing the founders got wrong was to not anticipate parties.

Yeah, but in the UK the Whig and Tory parties had been active for most of a century.

You can’t blame somebody for not being able to predict the future, not so much for misreading the present and recent history.

What the FF wanted was a benevolent Sun King ala Louis XIV but periodically elected rather than inherited.

It’s good that removing the Head of State is a very high bar, but removing the Head of Government should be a routine process. They are called elections and majority support. Who’s to say what is stupid or poor performance anyway?

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sitting-president-of-the-united-states-of-america-tweeted-this/832975/30 "2019-04-25T00:54:31Z")

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> [@Lucas\_Jackson](#):
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> :mad:y
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> I’m not familiar with all of the views of all of the posters on this board so I assumed this was parody. Reading responses I’m not so sure.
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> Tell me, are you serious?

LOL, no. But putting a smilie or something gives it away 🙂

Cause those damn Libs just don’t get it!

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**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sitting-president-of-the-united-states-of-america-tweeted-this/832975/31 "2019-04-25T01:01:53Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> Cause those damn Libs just don’t get it!

Well then why … but but but … oh, I get it. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sitting-president-of-the-united-states-of-america-tweeted-this/832975/32 "2019-04-25T01:08:17Z")

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> [@Lucas\_Jackson](#):
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> Well then why … but but but … oh, I get it. 🙂

I personally feel the best satire straddles the line between “true” and “ridiculous”

🙂

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**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sitting-president-of-the-united-states-of-america-tweeted-this/832975/33 "2019-04-25T01:27:51Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> The purpose of checks and balances (among other things) is to make sure that one corrupt branch does not make the whole government corrupt.

You seem to have a different definition of corrupt to myself.

Checks and balances are there to stop the abuse of power.

That members of the WH staff ignored instructions (and didn’t resign their position in protest) is insolence and insubordination, not checks & balances, even if an arguably greater good was achieved.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 9:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sitting-president-of-the-united-states-of-america-tweeted-this/832975/34 "2019-04-25T09:20:07Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> We were hoping Dubya was a one-off.

Errm, you’d already had the literally senile St Ronnie…

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sitting-president-of-the-united-states-of-america-tweeted-this/832975/35 "2019-04-25T12:09:33Z")

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> [@Lucas\_Jackson](#):
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> This shit can’t end soon enough. He’s like a 6 year old. Doesn’t he have a country to run? Ugh.

His incompetence, childishness and sloth are the best features of his Presidency! Imagine how much worse this would be if the President were just as criminal and despicable as Trump, but was clever enough to better pursue his evil agenda.

> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> Apparently Republicans don’t care, among other things, about how frighteningly ridiculous we look on the world stage. And how helpless we appear to be to do anything about it.
> 
> No one can regard this… horror show… as the “Leader of the Free World.” I doubt we will ever be trusted to lead again.
> 
> Vlad wins this round bigly.

Loss of respect and prestige is just part of the permanent damage we are suffering. U.S. government science has taken a huge blow, along with the institutional knowledge of the State Department. Government debt will end up trillions of dollars more than it needed to be. Russian power has benefited hugely from Trumpist blunders or treasons. The fight against climate change is set back. And now it appears that the criminals will get a 5-4 Scotus vote to sabotage the 2020 census, with the GOP thereby gaining some illicit Congress seats, electors, and moneys.

The election of Donald Trump is one of saddest tragedies of our lifetimes.

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**Author:** ![racer72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/racer72/32/3075_2.png) [@racer72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racer72)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sitting-president-of-the-united-states-of-america-tweeted-this/832975/36 "2019-04-25T15:12:29Z")

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I have friends and family in New Zealand, Australia, and England. I use to apologize because of Trump. Now I just refer to me as a victim.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sitting-president-of-the-united-states-of-america-tweeted-this/832975/37 "2019-04-25T15:12:50Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> His incompetence, childishness and sloth are the best features of his Presidency! Imagine how much worse this would be if the President were just as criminal and despicable as Trump, but was clever enough to better pursue his evil agenda…

Yes, imagine if Mitch McConnell were president. :smack:

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sitting-president-of-the-united-states-of-america-tweeted-this/832975/38 "2019-04-25T15:19:09Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> His incompetence, childishness and sloth are the best features of his Presidency! Imagine how much worse this would be if the President were just as criminal and despicable as Trump, but was clever enough to better pursue his evil agenda.

One of the things we learned from the Mueller Report is that a big reason why illegal things weren’t pursued is that others (cabinet members, political appointees and career executive office staff) refused to do things he suggested or wanted to be done.

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sitting-president-of-the-united-states-of-america-tweeted-this/832975/39 "2019-04-25T15:22:29Z")

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Ever listened to Trump when he actually has to say something “official” and is not just off-the-cuff riffing? He sounds like someone is _literally giving him the words one at a time_ so he can’t fuck it up.  
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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sitting-president-of-the-united-states-of-america-tweeted-this/832975/40 "2019-04-25T15:35:16Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> \<snip\>
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> Loss of respect and prestige is just part of the permanent damage we are suffering. U.S. government science has taken a huge blow, along with the institutional knowledge of the State Department. Government debt will end up trillions of dollars more than it needed to be. Russian power has benefited hugely from Trumpist blunders or treasons. The fight against climate change is set back. And now it appears that the criminals will get a 5-4 Scotus vote to sabotage the 2020 census, with the GOP thereby gaining some illicit Congress seats, electors, and moneys.
> 
> The election of Donald Trump is one of saddest tragedies of our lifetimes.

Oh, how aware I am of all that. It is almost too painful to bear. I agree with every word and would only amend your statement regarding institutional knowledge to include virtually all departments of government, not just State.

Richard Painter said today that he believed Trump’s “presidency” will set affect our country adversely for 100 years. I think he is too optimistic.

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