# The situation in Binomo

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-situation-in-binomo/805447>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [December 28, 2017, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-situation-in-binomo/805447 "2017-12-28T04:03:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@crucible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crucible)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2017, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-situation-in-binomo/805447/21 "2017-12-29T04:43:03Z")

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Ms. Haley could be compared to previous UN ambassadors…I can not think of one who was so grossly mismatched against the other 180 or so folks. Think of some of the names…Stevenson, Lodge, Bush, etc. etc. As others have noted, Haley is another of the horrible choices for leaders in his admnistration made with the basic aim of destroying the department to which they are nominated.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2017, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-situation-in-binomo/805447/22 "2017-12-29T06:53:49Z")

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> [@crucible](#):
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> Ms. Haley could be compared to previous UN ambassadors…I can not think of one who was so grossly mismatched against the other 180 or so folks. Think of some of the names…Stevenson, Lodge, Bush, etc. etc. As others have noted, Haley is another of the horrible choices for leaders in his admnistration made with the basic aim of destroying the department to which they are nominated.

Stephenson, Lodge, and Bush were all political appointments, too, though. None of them had any diplomatic experience at the time (although Lodge would become Ambassador to S. Vietnam and Bush Ambassador to China), and that’s true of a bunch of other UN Ambassadors…Stanton, Goldberg, Austin, Young, Richardson, Danforth. Those were all politicians, none of whom had any diplomatic experience.

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**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2017, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-situation-in-binomo/805447/23 "2017-12-29T07:11:18Z")

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They perhaps had an understanding that politics isn’t just about foghorning what you believe to be right.

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**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2017, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-situation-in-binomo/805447/24 "2017-12-29T07:42:41Z")

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PS Perhaps someone should try out Ms. Haley on[San Serriffe](https://medium.com/@realdougwilson/the-beautiful-island-of-san-serriffe-d95adbc5febb)

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2017, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-situation-in-binomo/805447/25 "2017-12-29T11:38:05Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> [Youtube link to prank call](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RgXL7byTF0). Portions were being played on various news media last night.
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> **Chronos** has it right. It isn’t that she didn’t know. It’s that she couldn’t admit she didn’t know. Instead, she attempts to bullshit her way through the call and ends up giving the Russians new ammunition to say that the US will claim Russia interferes in other countries’ elections based on no evidence whatsoever. To that extent, she has (further) damaged US credibility and allows Putin to say to his own people that US claims of election interference are untrue.

In all fairness, I don’t think she’s the first politician to fall for a gag like this, but she probably is the first one who has this high of a profile.

I still think Gary Johnson’s dazed and confused response to the Aleppo question was worse - like way worse. Sure, he wasn’t going to win, but he _was_ a former governor of an American state and he was supposed to represent a more intellectual type of conservatism. The question didn’t really even require advanced knowledge of geography. The city’s name was in the press every day - sometimes multiple times during the day. He had no idea.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2017, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-situation-in-binomo/805447/26 "2017-12-29T11:45:44Z")

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> [@TruCelt](#):
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> They were also assured, however, that he would surround himself with top experts. They believed that he would be advised by the best of the best, and thus would have the information at hand to make good decisions.

I doubt the analysis went that deep. They voted for Trump because they themselves really have no appreciation for the value of career bureaucrats. Nor do they have any appreciation for how complex the (largely) American-made post-WWII political world order is, and how our strategic relationships and partnerships benefit the average American. They assume that any problem we face can be dealt with by a B-2 bomber, not really comprehending that our military power also depends on things like getting rights from other countries to use their air bases, their air space, their ports of call, and so on. The era of Trump isn’t some sort of “Oops!” moment that we will awaken from; it very much reflects and represents how at least one half of this country thinks.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2017, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-situation-in-binomo/805447/27 "2017-12-29T16:59:49Z")

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> [@DSYoungEsq](#):
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> This all assumes that the conversation “reported” in the RT really happened.

Whenever I see something like this, the first thing I do is look for it in the Washington Post and the NYT. And oddly enough, this story is not being reported in either of those newspapers (as far as I can tell).

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2017, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-situation-in-binomo/805447/28 "2017-12-29T17:20:24Z")

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> [@TruCelt](#):
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> Instead, I can’t think of a _single_ appointee so far that has any real grasp of the position to which they’ve been assigned. Their only real qualification AFAICT is a willingness to push the status quo more and more in favor of the upper economic strata, and to hopelessly degrade any and all services to those in need.  
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Jim Mattis, but that’s about it.

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**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2017, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-situation-in-binomo/805447/29 "2017-12-29T18:39:43Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Whenever I see something like this, the first thing I do is look for it in the Washington Post and the NYT. And oddly enough, this story is not being reported in either of those newspapers (as far as I can tell).

How about [Newsweek](http://www.newsweek.com/nikki-haley-pranked-russian-comedians-poland-763565)?

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2017, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-situation-in-binomo/805447/30 "2017-12-29T18:41:50Z")

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While Haley is useless with her knowledge of international relations and foreign policy, it bothers me more that someone who served as governor of a state that was often unfavorably in the news isn’t extremely cautious of getting pranked in this way.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2017, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-situation-in-binomo/805447/31 "2017-12-29T19:07:53Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Whenever I see something like this, the first thing I do is look for it in the Washington Post and the NYT. And oddly enough, this story is not being reported in either of those newspapers (as far as I can tell).

I first heard about this from the talking heads on MSNBC. Not exactly the most reliable source. I was skeptical searching for this until I found the audio, and then couldn’t find a denial. I think the mainstream press avoids covering pranks like this because they’ve been Howard Sterned so many times.

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2018, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-situation-in-binomo/805447/32 "2018-01-01T17:43:43Z")

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The situation in Binomo is that someone was pulling her turkish taffy.

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2018, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-situation-in-binomo/805447/33 "2018-01-01T18:21:38Z")

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Is “San Sarriffe” anywhere near “San Sombrero”?

> **[San Sombrèro](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Sombr%C3%A8ro)**
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> San Sombrèro (subtitled A Land of Carnivals, Cocktails and Coups) is a parody travel guide book examining the eponymous fictional country, described as the birthplace of tinted sunglasses and sequins. This country is set in Central America, and was created by Australian comedic writers Tom Gleisner, Santo Cilauro and Rob Sitch (of The D-Generation and The Panel fame). Along with the other Jetlag Travel volumes, 2003's Molvanîa and 2004's Phaic Tăn, the book parodies both the language of heritage ...

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2018, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-situation-in-binomo/805447/34 "2018-01-01T18:51:34Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> While Haley is useless with her knowledge of international relations and foreign policy, it bothers me more that someone who served as governor of a state that was often unfavorably in the news isn’t extremely cautious of getting pranked in this way.

> [@TriPolar](#):
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> I first heard about this from the talking heads on MSNBC. Not exactly the most reliable source. I was skeptical searching for this until I found the audio, and then couldn’t find a denial. I think the mainstream press avoids covering pranks like this because they’ve been Howard Sterned so many times.

Gotta agree, this is something that should be on your radar as a hazard. And for crying out loud, never mind diplomat, a competent \*politician \*should have developed the skill to come up with a let-me-get-back-to-you-on-that answer for when you don’t know WTF is the interviewer talking about.

Plus, if you’re UN Ambassador, it sort of behooves you to be aware of what are the real countries in the world. Sure, you may miss some secessionist provinces or some associated island dependencies but at the very least you should be able to get suspicious.

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