The slovening of medical terminology

I thought “sloveing” was a perfectly cromulent word.

Sloveing might be but not slovening.

Gaslighting isn’t a thing. You made it up, because you’re crazy.

D’oh!

The edit window is still open, so I could go back and edit my post, and make everybody think “What the hell is he talking about?”

You have a diagnosis. From legit professionals. I’m truly sorry for your plight.

I’m talking about the “I’m a victim” crowd. That do not have this. Never bothered to look into it. Never went thru the hours of testing and waiting. Then getting medication that may or may not help.
All the while people saying there’s nothing really wrong with you.

They read Dr. Google, and YouTube, and with all their might claimed this as their problem. This is why their life is in shambles.

I have legitimate disorders and diseases. Plenty are physical, some are mental, some a creation of my imagination.
IRL I strive to not let my problems affect my family, naturally some does. I’m always sorry about that.

Why invite demons.

Every time I try to understand autism, I wind up more confused than before. It’s like trying to nail jello to the wall. It doesn’t help that so many of my social media friends keep posting memes asserting that autism is [list of practically everything under the Sun] while simultaneously asserting that autism is NOT [list of practically everything under the Sun]. They post so many wide-ranging descriptions of autism, ADHD, and “neurospicy” that I can’t tell if I’m coming or going. Half the popularly reported traits of autism sound like me, and the other half sound like exactly the opposite of me.

When I squawk in response to my inability to integrate what they’re putting out there, the answer is always “Well, you know autism is a ‘spectrum.’” OK, fine, but that still gives me no useful information about it.

I’ve mostly kept quiet about this, Ulfreida, because I don’t want to sound insensitive to folks who really do deal with autism. I want to know how to be more supportive. The memes my friends post are the opposite of helpful. But I gotta squawk. None of it all is adding up to anything for me. Your OP gave me hope my cri de cœur may not fall on unsympathetic ears.

I had one social media friend who one day suddenly announced she has Asperger’s and that gives her license to be as rude as she pleases. She instantly proceeded to behave obnoxiously toward everyone; I unfriended her. This left me with a jaundiced view toward self-diagnosers. I wish all the self-diagnosers would just shut up already.

So they’re all descriptivists in Slovenia?

So I disagree on this. The term narcissist is not a medical term. The use of the term to mean someone exceptionally self centered predates it’s use as a formal medical term.

Narcissistic personality disorder is a medical term. But no one uses that as a casual description of someone.

Since this is the pit, I will tell you frankly that you are being deliberately obtuse. If you don’t understand the difference between creative wordplay, and lazy adoption of terms that mean something specific but you degrade them into vague inchoate slang for something ordinary that already had a perfectly usable word for it, well, perhaps I was too hasty in my apologies, and some of the semi-literate do indeed make their home here.

And now I am stomping off to bed.

I’d say some of the blame lies on the medical establishment for this one. By defining Autism as a spectrum where the “mild” end of the spectrum includes plenty of “symptoms” that are actual just normal feelings. When they include things like having difficulties in social interaction or being resistant to change on the autism spectrum, the very large percentage of people who experience those perfectly normal things are obviously going to start casually referring them as “being on the spectrum”.

Gaslighting is a (fuzzy-bordered) subset of being dishonest, but instead of being a one-off is typically part of an ongoing attempt to mislead and perturb the target.

It’s almost as if words and phrases have usages that change over time and not definitions that are set in stone.

I think it’s quite likely that what currently gets called “autism” is at least a half-dozen completely unrelated conditions. It does, indeed, present very differently in different individuals, and not just differences of degree, but qualitative differences.

I’d say it’s not that fuzzy. There is a key concept gaslighting describes succinctly, that is deceiving someone with the deliberate intention to make them doubt their sanity (or if not their literal sanity, then make them think they are the unstable, extreme, or unreasonable one).

That’s a useful concept to express succinctly (it’s a real thing that abusive people do). So it irritates me when it just becomes just a synonym for lying, as it actually detracts from the expressiveness of the language. There are plenty of words for lying but no other words for gaslighting

Is “Deer Camp” too complicated for you??? :wink:

It’s as if we’re trying to decimate the language.

sloven the terminology

Decimate is a lost cause, since it probably hasn’t been used correctly since the Roman Empire.

I think making sloven into a verb is a noble enterprise, personally. So many uses.

At least in the case of my kid, you have a meeting once or twice a year and they go down the list of accommodations and whether or not they’re still needed based on various criteria. So, if the student is handing in tests with everyone else and getting high marks, they perhaps don’t need extended testing time or a special room to do it in.

My son has an ASD diagnosis from both the school district’s evaluation and from an independent pediatric neurologist (we figured an “official” diagnosis might help down the line with school or insurance). Essentially, you need to prove need on an annual basis for the accommodations to continue. The medical diagnosis helps get in the door but it’s not a golden ticket either. For the record, we’ve been pretty happy with our district’s handling of our son’s needs and feel he’s really benefited so I’m not upset about the process or putting aside accommodations that he’s grown out of needing.

Medical terminology went downhill the moment a bunch of jumped up sawbones, quacks, faith healers, cultists, medical school graduates and other assorted ne’er-do-wells decided to appropriate the label doctor.