# The snowflakes are out in force

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 19, 2016, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182 "2016-12-19T21:11:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2016, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/181 "2016-12-22T19:31:18Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> Oi fuckface.
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> I’mma try again. Nice and slow, no big words this time, just simple, easy, terms.
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> …

That’s not enough. You must use crayon too. And the comic font, he does well with this font…

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2016, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/182 "2016-12-22T19:47:18Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> I miss having **Lynn** around. She wouldn’t have tolerated this “acceptable level of trolling” bullshit.

Honestly, how hard is it to exercise a bit of discipline and not respond?

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2016, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/183 "2016-12-22T21:30:59Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> I have literally no idea what possible value a poster a blinkered and fucking _stupid_ as **Clothahump** brings to this board.

BPC, I am neither blinkered nor stupid. Your post is a perfect example of value I (and others) bring to the board - we give you and your ilk a chance to jump up and down, and scream and whine and call us names like brat babies throwing a tantrum in a sand box, all because we tell you things that you don’t want to hear.

Frankly, my man, if we can piss you and the other liberal twits this board off at least once a day, then we will get our belly laugh, because reading posts like yours is like watching the monkeys in the zoo throw shit back and forth at each other.

Have a nice day.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2016, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/184 "2016-12-22T21:32:49Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Frankly, my man, if we can piss you and the other liberal twits this board off at least once a day, then we will get our belly laugh, because reading posts like yours is like watching the monkeys in the zoo throw shit back and forth at each other.

You do realize you just admitted to trolling, right?

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2016, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/185 "2016-12-22T21:45:24Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> BPC, I am neither blinkered nor stupid. Your post is a perfect example of value I (and others) bring to the board - we give you and your ilk a chance to jump up and down, and scream and whine and call us names like brat babies throwing a tantrum in a sand box, all because we tell you things that you don’t want to hear.

No, fuckface, you just described **Bricker** , **Starving Artist** , and **adaher**. People who are definitely not liberals and who definitely disagree with liberal positions, but whose posts often (okay, maybe often is pushing it in Starving Artist’s case) rise above the level of a dumpster fire in the back of the “E.T. 2600 and Pixels” warehouse. You may have noticed they don’t quite get the kind of invective you get. Because they aren’t clinically retarded, and frankly, if I were one of them, I’d be insulted to be mentioned in the same post as you.

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> Frankly, my man, if we can piss you and the other liberal twits this board off at least once a day, then we will get our belly laugh, because reading posts like yours is like watching the monkeys in the zoo throw shit back and forth at each other.

See, this has literally been the most coherent, sensible, friendly post I have ever seen this fucker make, and it’s literally saying, “I’m just here to troll.” Can we trade this guy for one of the many, _many_ banned posters who contributed infinitely more to the board, board culture, and the fight against ignorance than this fucktard does? I could even think of a few names!

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2016, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/186 "2016-12-22T23:00:02Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> BPC, I am neither blinkered nor stupid. Your post is a perfect example of value I (and others) bring to the board - we give you and your ilk a chance to jump up and down, and scream and whine and call us names like brat babies throwing a tantrum in a sand box, all because we tell you things that you don’t want to hear.
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> Frankly, my man, if we can piss you and the other liberal twits this board off at least once a day, then we will get our belly laugh, because reading posts like yours is like watching the monkeys in the zoo throw shit back and forth at each other.
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> Have a nice day.

There you go, proof - simple things entertain simple minds. My best advice for you - marry rich.

> [@octopus](#):
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> Honestly, how hard is it to exercise a bit of discipline and not respond?

Psssssttttttt… You’re one of the trolls being talking about.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2016, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/187 "2016-12-22T23:09:10Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> There you go, proof - simple things entertain simple minds. My best advice for you - marry rich.

Why you think he voted for Trump? He wants to be Trump’s 4th spouse.

Won’t he be disappointed when he finds out that that promise was a lie too.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/188 "2016-12-23T00:56:53Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> There you go, proof - simple things entertain simple minds. My best advice for you - marry rich.
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> Psssssttttttt… You’re one of the trolls being talking about.

If anyone is trolling it’s you and your clownish California First thread. How your nutty ass includes yourself in “we” is beyond me.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/189 "2016-12-23T02:00:07Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> You do realize you just admitted to trolling, right?

Nope. Not in the slightest. We conservatives piss liberals off by doing nasty things like posting facts or even just daring to express a non-liberal opinion.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/190 "2016-12-23T02:03:01Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Nope. Not in the slightest. We conservatives piss liberals off by **doing nasty things like posting facts** or even just daring to express a non-liberal opinion.

Cite?

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/191 "2016-12-23T02:29:16Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Nope. Not in the slightest. We conservatives piss liberals off by doing nasty things like posting facts or even just daring to express a non-liberal opinion.

Do you or do you not entertain yourself by deliberately pissing off “liberals”?

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/192 "2016-12-23T02:36:44Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> Do you or do you not entertain yourself by deliberately pissing off “liberals”?

Looking for a gotcha? The whole pit could be considered trolling/jerkish. Rules lawyering in the pit seems dishonest.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/193 "2016-12-23T02:50:43Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Looking for a gotcha? The whole pit could be considered trolling/jerkish. Rules lawyering in the pit seems dishonest.

Intent is the key. Simply tossing invectives around is not trolling and the Pit has long passed the point where invectives are seen as mandatory.

Posting in a manner deliberately designed to piss people off? Do that enough, even down here, and that will get you banned. Case in point: **FXMastermind**.

Getting belly laughs by deliberately pissing people off then comparing those pissed off with shit-flinging monkeys? That’s straight-up trolling, no matter what forum it’s in.

NB: this board’s definition of “trolling” does not include being dishonest. Witness the behavior of those who occasionally visit from a board called, say, “squall line”.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/194 "2016-12-23T02:55:04Z")

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> [@dasmoocher](#):
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> Like when Pence goes to the theater?

The self proclaimed tough guys who want to call a spade a spade (in the most racist useage of the phrase), the guys who say they hate PC and lily liver libruls and safe spaces, are WHINING that they want a SAFE SPACE.

WFT.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/195 "2016-12-23T02:56:24Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Nope. Not in the slightest. We conservatives piss liberals off by doing nasty things like posting facts or even just daring to express a non-liberal opinion.

Cite?

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/196 "2016-12-23T03:11:02Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> watching the monkeys in the zoo throw shit back and forth at each other.

Hey, do we have “liberals” with a dark skin tone here? Ding the cloth-humper with using hate speech as well! 😃

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/197 "2016-12-23T03:18:29Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> Intent is the key. Simply tossing invectives around is not trolling and the Pit has long passed the point where invectives are seen as mandatory.
> 
> Posting in a manner deliberately designed to piss people off? Do that enough, even down here, and that will get you banned. Case in point: **FXMastermind**.
> 
> Getting belly laughs by deliberately pissing people off then comparing those pissed off with shit-flinging monkeys? That’s straight-up trolling, no matter what forum it’s in.
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> NB: this board’s definition of “trolling” does not include being dishonest. Witness the behavior of those who occasionally visit from a board called, say, “squall line”.

That seems like a convenient double standard. All the ad hominem attacks directed towards conservative or right leaning folks or groups that infest every sub forum on this board would be trolling by a consistent application of your standards. But if it deliberately pisses off members who identify with those groups or have an affinity for the target they don’t count, do they?

But piss of a liberal, even in the pit, and the left shrieks to have them banned. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/198 "2016-12-23T03:27:51Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> That seems like a convenient double standard. All the ad hominem attacks directed towards conservative or right leaning folks or groups that infest every sub forum on this board would be trolling by a consistent application of your standards.

But they’re not mine. I’m simply repeating what’s been long established by the admins: posts that deliberately attempt to elicit negative reactions are trolling. Thing is, we now have “acceptable levels of trolling” down here, so trollish posts are not only more tolerated but those who post them are also more difficult to remove. Case in point, again: **FXMastermind**.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/199 "2016-12-23T03:29:52Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Frankly, my man, if we can piss you and the other liberal twits this board off at least once a day, then we will get our belly laugh, because reading posts like yours is like watching the monkeys in the zoo throw shit back and forth at each other.

Sometimes there are threads asking why there are so few funny conservatives. This post sheds light on this mystery.

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/200 "2016-12-23T04:26:26Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> No, fuckface, you just described **Bricker** , **Starving Artist** , and **adaher**. People who are definitely not liberals and who definitely disagree with liberal positions, but whose posts often (okay, maybe often is pushing it in Starving Artist’s case) rise above the level of a dumpster fire in the back of the “E.T. 2600 and Pixels” warehouse. . . .

I dunno. I have some serious disinclination to give **Bricker** any benefit of the doubt. He is skilled enough to cushion his lies in a padded wrapping of sophistication, but when you take the time to study what he says, it is some of the most dishonest material you could ever hope to see. He is the single most dishonest person in the SDMB now, and probably ever.

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