# The snowflakes are out in force

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 19, 2016, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182 "2016-12-19T21:11:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/201 "2016-12-23T04:50:03Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> But they’re not mine. I’m simply repeating what’s been long established by the admins: posts that deliberately attempt to elicit negative reactions are trolling. Thing is, we now have “acceptable levels of trolling” down here, so trollish posts are not only more tolerated but those who post them are also more difficult to remove. Case in point, again: **FXMastermind**.

So, insults such as “fuckface” or saying someone has semen dripping out their mouth and ass are not a deliberate attempt to elicit negative reactions? Are you serious? But heaven forbid someone poke a bit of fun at liberals or liberalism and then you all bitch and moan about standards. Intellectual dishonesty at its most obvious.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/202 "2016-12-23T04:55:13Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> So, insults such as “fuckface” or saying someone has semen dripping out their mouth and ass are not a deliberate attempt to elicit negative reactions? Are you serious?

For the record, if anyone else is thinking of reporting **Clot** ’s post as “an admission of trolling,” this is precisely why you’re being ignored. It’s the Pit, people. If you’re not posting here to deliberately annoy someone, _you’re doing it wrong._

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/203 "2016-12-23T05:59:27Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> . . . But heaven forbid someone poke a bit of fun at liberals or liberalism and then you all bitch and moan about standards. Intellectual dishonesty at its most obvious.

Shrug. You do it too, and worse. You want to call people rude names, without getting labeled a bigot for it. You bitch and moan (and whine and whinge and bleat) just as badly as those you scorn.

Your own intellectual dishonesty is marred primarily by your lack of intellect.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/204 "2016-12-23T06:23:32Z")

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> [@Trinopus](#):
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> Shrug. You do it too, and worse. You want to call people rude names, without getting labeled a bigot for it. You bitch and moan (and whine and whinge and bleat) just as badly as those you scorn.
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> Your own intellectual dishonesty is marred primarily by your lack of intellect.

Oh snap! Someone’s projecting.

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/205 "2016-12-23T06:26:42Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Oh snap! Someone’s projecting.

you

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/206 "2016-12-23T06:34:57Z")

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> [@drad\_dog](#):
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> you

You folks have an interesting lack of self awareness. It’s sad that when people respond to the fights that certain knuckleheads on this forum start the one who responds gets the critique! Again, intellectual dishonesty. Sad.

Being attacked by liars or those who don’t read very well would actually be meaningless if those weren’t real adults who are free to roam the real world and do things like vote and reproduce. Then it becomes scary. I usually keep my responses PG or PG 13 so someone’s kid or partner won’t be abused by an enraged nerd.

Provoke fights. Get fought back. Whine that people are trolling. 😕

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/207 "2016-12-23T06:48:54Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> You folks have an interesting lack of self awareness. It’s sad that when people respond to the fights that certain knuckleheads on this forum start the one who responds gets the critique! Again, intellectual dishonesty. Sad.
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> Being attacked by liars or those who don’t read very well would actually be meaningless if those weren’t real adults who are free to roam the real world and do things like vote and reproduce. Then it becomes scary. I usually keep my responses PG or PG 13 so someone’s kid or partner won’t be abused by an enraged nerd.
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> Provoke fights. Get fought back. Whine that people are trolling. 😕

i said one word. You wrote over 100. You are a loser.

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/208 "2016-12-23T06:53:15Z")

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> [@Trinopus](#):
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> I dunno. I have some serious disinclination to give **Bricker** any benefit of the doubt. He is skilled enough to cushion his lies in a padded wrapping of sophistication, but when you take the time to study what he says, it is some of the most dishonest material you could ever hope to see. He is the single most dishonest person in the SDMB now, and probably ever.

I don’t disagree that **Bricker** is at times phenomenally dishonest, and there have been numerous times where I’ve wanted to reach through the screen and shake him, screaming, “DO YOU EVER TURN OFF LAWYER MODE YOU FUCKING ROBOT?”, but he not infrequently posts well-thought-out, reasonable arguments that actually contribute to the fight against ignorance, or at least require me to think for a while, and for that I’m genuinely grateful. I very rarely agree with him, but I think he’s one of the conservatives on the board that really contributes to the level of discussion.

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/209 "2016-12-23T07:01:42Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Oh snap! Someone’s projecting.

You’re one of the first to say, “Your side does it too.” Now, when it is pointed out that your side does it too, you fall back on an accusation of projecting. This is so self-referential, it makes Goedel/Escher/Bach seem linear.

But, then, it is always the bigot who says, “I don’t hate blacks. It’s just…” And they then betray how strongly they hate blacks.

Meanwhile, you’re out of work, son: theaters don’t use projectionists any longer.

(Hm… Vomiters do…)

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/210 "2016-12-23T07:03:55Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> I don’t disagree that **Bricker** is at times phenomenally dishonest, and there have been numerous times where I’ve wanted to reach through the screen and shake him, screaming, “DO YOU EVER TURN OFF LAWYER MODE YOU FUCKING ROBOT?”, but he not infrequently posts well-thought-out, reasonable arguments that actually contribute to the fight against ignorance, or at least require me to think for a while, and for that I’m genuinely grateful. I very rarely agree with him, but I think he’s one of the conservatives on the board that really contributes to the level of discussion.

Well… Sometimes. When it’s a perfectly straightforward matter of law, he usually gives a true answer.

Also, he has really good taste in music, and I wish he’d post more often in Cafe Society.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/211 "2016-12-23T07:20:07Z")

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There are any number of message boards where your point of view would be welcomed. Not in any special way, of course, you wouldn’t stand out amongst the other meth-addled mynah birds. Or is that the crux of the biscuit, here? You might be pleased to have approving attention, but since your shit is the same shit everybody else is saying, you don’t get much attention, approving or otherwise.

I oftimes argue, collegially, with people less left than me, and sometimes with people more left than me. Few of us have the slightest interest in your disdain and contempt. Which is pretty much all you have to offer us. If you really believe that we are so stupid, why in the world would you even bother to talk to us? We didn’t come looking for you, you weren’t recruited.

You know, you could just go ahead and tell folks that you were banned from here. Nobody is going to check. We aren’t famous, or anything. Maybe you should get a hobby, or a degrading sexual perversion. Just a thought.

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**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/212 "2016-12-23T07:40:58Z")

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The Democrats ran probably the only candidate in the entire party who could lose against Trump. I’m afraid the very least price they pay for that idiocy is to be mocked for the next 4 years

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 8:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/213 "2016-12-23T08:44:30Z")

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> [@Trinopus](#):
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> You’re one of the first to say, “Your side does it too.” Now, when it is pointed out that your side does it too, you fall back on an accusation of projecting. This is so self-referential, it makes Goedel/Escher/Bach seem linear.
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> But, then, it is always the bigot who says, “I don’t hate blacks. It’s just…” And they then betray how strongly they hate blacks.
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> Meanwhile, you’re out of work, son: theaters don’t use projectionists any longer.
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> (Hm… Vomiters do…)

Do you even know what you’re writing?

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/214 "2016-12-23T12:38:56Z")

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> [@aldiboronti](#):
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> The Democrats ran probably the only candidate in the entire party who could lose against Trump. I’m afraid the very least price they pay for that idiocy is to be mocked for the next 4 years

Your mockery is a love tap compared to the punishment of having Trump as president, which you are going to have to endure as well, so tap away if it helps.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/215 "2016-12-23T13:49:17Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> For the record, if anyone else is thinking of reporting **Clot** ’s post as “an admission of trolling,” this is precisely why you’re being ignored. It’s the Pit, people. If you’re not posting here to deliberately annoy someone, _you’re doing it wrong._

From the posted rules;

**No trolling**

By trolling, we mean posting of inflammatory comments solely to get a rise out of people. If we feel your primary goal as a poster is to make people mad, you’ll quickly find yourself on the road to banning. On the flip side, the fact that a poster consistently makes you mad doesn’t automatically make them a troll.  
So apparently the Pit moderator has decided to change the rules? :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/216 "2016-12-23T16:00:11Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> So apparently the Pit moderator has decided to change the rules? :dubious:

Exactly why I miss **Lynn**. No telling what **Miller** will let pass. Hell, I’ve reported somebody obviously ignoring his instructions as a moderator and nothing happened.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/217 "2016-12-23T16:10:05Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Nope. Not in the slightest. We conservatives piss liberals off by doing nasty things like posting facts or even just daring to express a non-liberal opinion.

At this point, **Clothahump** isn’t even passing a Turing test.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/218 "2016-12-23T16:26:52Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> So, insults such as “fuckface” or saying someone has semen dripping out their mouth and ass are not a deliberate attempt to elicit negative reactions? Are you serious?

Context, man, context. I’m guessing you haven’t seen [_Gran Torino_](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtSJOUOEJ8o).

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/219 "2016-12-23T17:00:48Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> [Moderating]  
> Altering quotes to change their meaning, as you did in these two posts, is against the board rules. That’ll be a warning for you. Don’t do this again.  
> [/Moderating]

> [@Miller](#):
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> For the record, if anyone else is thinking of reporting **Clot** ’s post as “an admission of trolling,” this is precisely why you’re being ignored. It’s the Pit, people. If you’re not posting here to deliberately annoy someone, _you’re doing it wrong._

(posts not altered in any way, shape, or form)

Am I on double-secret probation now? Where is my confirming PM?

Just to clarify, what do you mean when you say, “_Altering quotes to change their meaning_”? **Budget Player Cadet** post was clearly meant to be insulting. It’s entire post was meant to be insulting. The “meaning” of it’s post wasn’t changed, but the post was shortened, and I identified the quote as being shortened. Just like I’ve been doing for years. Plus the original post is still available for everyone to see.

According to your post 202, “_If you’re not posting here to deliberately annoy someone, you’re doing it wrong_.”

So what did I do that was wrong? **Budget Player Cadet** insulting post was still insulting. Nothing changed.

p.s. Should my question be addressed in this thread, or in the _About This Message Board_ forum?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2016, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/220 "2016-12-23T17:14:01Z")

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Hey **doorhinge** , you’re not laughing.

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