# The snowflakes are out in force

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 19, 2016, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182 "2016-12-19T21:11:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/121 "2016-12-21T15:08:54Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> If any facts or evidence had been shown, it would not have been ignored. All that has been shown is liberal snowflakes whining and howling like broke-dick dogs because they didn’t get their way.

Case in point.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/122 "2016-12-21T15:20:20Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> I don’t agree at all. Sure, we want diversity of ideas here. But we still want them to be intelligent. I don’t think the board benefits at all from low intelligence conservatives who only post about politics and related issues.

Well, in that sense - you’re absolutely right. The troglodytes contribute nothing of value to the board. For that matter, the Neo-Nazis who marched in Skokie were not contributing anything of value to the concept of freedom of expression (arguably the opposite since if their claimed views were put into force, freedom of expression would effectively disappear) _but_ there is still some minor value is making sure that they _can_ speak, if for nothing else to demonstrate how blatantly they lie when they say they’re being suppressed.

Occasionally I watch _The Atheist Experience_ on YouTube. It’d be boring if all the callers were other atheists, talking about how rational atheism is. It’s only fun when a theist calls in and is initially treated with mild deference before being utterly crushed by the hosts pointing out the contradictions in the caller’s own arguments.

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/123 "2016-12-21T15:49:36Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> I think your fundamental mistake is imagining that liberals are somehow responsible for Donald Trump’s election. We’re not. The people who voted for him and otherwise supported him bear that responsibility.
> 
> Stop fretting that it’s somehow all on us liberals to manage to achieve “different results”. What’s on us is to keep this venture more or less in touch with reality by reasoned analysis and critique, and supporting valid goals. But it’s not our responsibility to make wilfully stupid and ignorant self-appointed adversaries somehow magically decide not to be wilfully stupid and ignorant.
> 
> In the meantime, since you’re back, do you have any responses to the questions I asked you a few posts ago?
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> Or do you prefer just continuing to sneer vaguely at liberals for “complaining” too much rather than somehow unilaterally making effective solutions appear by some unspecified alternative to “complaining”?

Well, if you want your choice of candidate to win, there does have to be some amount of proselytizing involved. And the current method of “Fuck those evil, racist Republicans” isn’t working.

I’ll address your earlier post to me shortly.

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/124 "2016-12-21T15:58:36Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> :dubious: …  
> …What **specific** things that Republicans are saying do you advise Democrats to “listen to”, in the sense of accepting them without criticism or disagreement? Please, I’m all ears.

No, I really don’t think you are “all ears”. You are obviously chomping at the bit for me to list issues we should compromise on so you can tell me why I am wrong.  
So let me turn it over to you.

Of all your political views, which are you will to bend on?

Abortion?  
EPA?  
Energy?  
Minimum wage?  
Immigration?  
Taxes?

Is there any issue of significance you’d be willing to bend on for the sake of finding more common ground? And maybe, just maybe finding more folks to come roost on our side of the fence in the process?

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/125 "2016-12-21T16:02:35Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Trump called for protests when Obama was re-elected in 2012.
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> Now he whines it’s unfair to be subjected to the same treatment. What a sad little snowflake.

Clearly he needs a ‘safe space’ for Presidenting.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/126 "2016-12-21T16:04:23Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> I dunno, there’s plenty of room for disaster resulting from a winner who is corrupt, inexperienced and incompetent.

But luckily Hillary didn’t win.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/127 "2016-12-21T16:09:28Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> But luckily Hillary didn’t win.

Well, that was a pretty lame effort but if it was the best you could manage, congratulations. Your participation trophy is in the mail.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/128 "2016-12-21T16:16:12Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> No, all that’s been shown is that you’re so goddamn stupid that you couldn’t spell “cat” if we spotted you the C and the A.

Now that Trump is President, shouldn’t this be “spell pussy” and we spot him all the letters? He’s no Terry Bradshaw!

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/129 "2016-12-21T16:22:59Z")

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> [@Grrr](#):
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> Of all your political views, which are you will to bend on?
> 
> Abortion?  
> EPA?  
> Energy?  
> Minimum wage?  
> Immigration?  
> Taxes?

None of these are ‘political views.’ Just sayin’.

Also, where most of us left-of-center types are at _is the result of bending._ Obamacare is a way of getting almost-universal health coverage by the most conservative, market-friendly means possible, and conservatives hate it anyway. Cap-and-trade was the same thing for dealing with global warming (and had already been successfully used to combat acid rain and the ozone hole), and conservatives killed it anyway. Etcetera. We bent, and it didn’t do shit. There have to be people on the other side who are _also_ willing to bend.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/130 "2016-12-21T16:25:15Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> If any facts or evidence had been shown, it would not have been ignored. All that has been shown is liberal snowflakes whining and howling like broke-dick dogs because they didn’t get their way.

You still think Hillary Clinton is a felon who should be locked up?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/131 "2016-12-21T16:36:53Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> You still think Hillary Clinton is a felon who should be locked up?

You have to ask? Even trump has said it doesn’t matter but **Clothy** is still apoplectic at the thought of Clinton not going to jail.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/132 "2016-12-21T17:18:29Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> But luckily Hillary didn’t win.

Saying she’s inexperienced is just idiotic. And whatever the degree of her corruption and incompetence might be, it pales in comparison to that of Trump.

To be effective, a jab has to have some element of truth to it. That was just pathetic.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/133 "2016-12-21T17:19:47Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> You have to ask? Even trump has said it doesn’t matter but **Clothy** is still apoplectic at the thought of Clinton not going to jail.

[sub]Shush. I’m hoping to get him whining and howling that the “felon” still isn’t in jail.[/sub]

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/134 "2016-12-21T17:29:01Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> I agree. They are immune to fact, they are immune to cites that contradict them, they are immune to actual documented history, they are immune to logical or reality based discussion,and they are spewing the same brand of horse shit they’ve been spewing for years.
> 
> That’s why some of us (meaning me) have been showing a shorter and shorter tolerance and less patience. The deliberateness of it becomes rage inducing after a while. It’s the same clowns every time too.

I have literally no idea what possible value a poster a blinkered and fucking _stupid_ as **Clothahump** brings to this board. Similarly, I see little value to be gained from arguing with a pathological liar like **Doorhinge**. I think literally the only posts from **DrunkySmurf** I have ever seen that I couldn’t classify as blatant trolling were in the Hearthstone thread. These individuals offer next to nothing to this board, save perhaps pariahs to laugh at, and I seriously doubt the board would be worse off without them. Is there a single thread any of these three have contributed anything worth reading to? I mean, fuck dude, if pressed I could probably find something D’Anconia wrote that was actually worth reading. But no, Clothy’s fucking magnum opus consists almost entirely of three kinds of posts:

1. Incredibly stupid, misguided bullshit by Clothahump
2. People pointing out how incredibly stupid and misguided Clothahump’s bullshit is
3. Someone else pointing out a stupid liberal idea, something which you’d think wouldn’t be so fucking hard for someone with such visceral hate and disdain for liberals. :rolleyes:

I literally do not understand for what purpose the powers that be keep these three festering headwounds around. They are immune to the fight against ignorance because they intentionally refuse to take part in it.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/135 "2016-12-21T17:31:50Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> I literally do not understand for what purpose the powers that be keep these three festering headwounds around. They are immune to the fight against ignorance because they intentionally refuse to take part in it.

Someone has to supply the ignorance.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/136 "2016-12-21T17:41:53Z")

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> [@Evil\_Economist](#):
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> I believe the appropriate word here is **projection**. \*\*Clothy \*\*is stupid and dishonest, so he assumes the same of everyone who disagrees with him.

For one thing, you all need to stop calling him “Clothy”. It’s way too cutesy for this fucking troll. “Humpy” is far more appropriate, IMO. A humpy salmon is a pink salmon, the lowest shelf in fishdom and barely edible. The Inuit refer to it as “dog salmon”, which I think is appropriate for this moron.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/137 "2016-12-21T17:50:28Z")

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Maybe if he was nicer to his wife, he wouldn’t need that cloth so much. 😉

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/138 "2016-12-21T18:00:06Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> Maybe if he was nicer to his wife, he wouldn’t need that cloth so much. 😉

Nicer? He’s scared of her. Maybe he’s just trying to assert his masculinity _snerk_ somewhere.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/139 "2016-12-21T18:03:03Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Nicer? He’s scared of her. Maybe he’s just trying to assert his masculinity _snerk_ somewhere.

He’d have to take time out from fucking that dog, which ain’t gonna happen for Humpy.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2016, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-snowflakes-are-out-in-force/775182/140 "2016-12-21T18:34:48Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> He’d have to take time out from fucking that dog, which ain’t gonna happen for Humpy.

Or, frog.

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