It would be fantastic. You won’t see me saying anything else. But that doesn’t change the fact of perjury and the mass forgiveness that Clinton got (and obviously still gets) while people are calling for Barry’s head on a pike and will in all likelihood get it.
Again, try to keep your eye on the ball.
But isn’t the argument (not that I agree with it) that Clinton did not technically commit perjury because he was parsing words and splitting hairs regarding what 'is" is and claiming that Lewinsky had sexual relations with him, but he didn’t with her?
I thought that slick Willie was able to be misleading, yet technically truthful and not commit perjury?
Airman Doors, two things:
Sorry I disn’t reply to your sacastic OP, but IMO you made a fundamental error in not picking one target to rage at and sticking to it. I couldn’t tell if your faux rage was directed at Barry, the vast anti-Barry conspiracy, or who knows who else.
re Monica a Blowjobgate. Did Monica ever file a sexual harassment claim against Bill? I am not aware of it, but I could be wrong. But AFAIK, there is no “statutory sexual harassment” charge that can be made without a complaint.
And also, AFAIK, “sexual harassment” is not a crime, it is a tort that can be addressed in civil court. Bill Clinton was not lying about anything that he could be criminally charged with, even if he said, “Suck my dick or you’re fired.”
Well… if he said that, he might well not have survived impeachment, but as far as the normal justice process, he had no real worry. He was trying to dodge political and personal fallout, not legal consequences.
That makes it quite a different case than Barry Bonds, IMO.
Wrong. Context not only matters, it is central. Materiality of the lie told to the case involved is critical to perjury. The validity of the case involved matters, too. We’ve been through this before, many times.
So . . . what you’re saying is that you were trolling for a reaction? Interesting.
What a dishonest jerk you always, *always *are.
People want Barry’s head for taking steroids, not lying to a Grand Jury.
Oh, for fuck’s sake, it’s baseball, why does it matter in the slightest if he was so juiced he could do pushups with his eyeballs? People pay to see the home runs, so he’s just giving the public what it wants.
Airman Doors, you may find solace in the fact that Barry will not serve a day in jail.
He will cut a deal. He will pay a stiff fine. (well, stiff to any of us) He will be doing some community service (maybe host a charity golf tournament). But he will never do any time and probably will not have to admit that he’s a lying-ass dog (about using steroids, anyway).
Just because it’s not important to you doesn’t mean it’s not important to other people.
Well, the steroids, of course, unfairly enhanced Bonds’ abilities as a baseball player.
So … presumably … since it’s equally important … the illicit blow job must have unfairly enhanced Clinton’s abilities as President …
Which means …
:: thinks ::
Is it too late, do you think, to send 500,000 hookers to Washington DC?
And, thanks to the juice, he has more head available.
It’s simple. People are biased. Those people that liked Bill Clinton forgave him (in as much as there was something to forgive). Those that did not like Clinton did not forgive him, and there are still quite a few people like that. Those that like Barry Bonds will forgive him. Those that don’t, won’t.
If there is any disparity in the size of the groups involved, may I suggest that it is simply a matter of a difference in the public face that they each choose to wear? It can be said that Bill Clinton at least attempted to be likeable. Part and parcel of the whole political process. Barry Bonds really hasn’t put any effort into being likeable (which may be putting it mildly). Thusly there would be more people crying for his downfall.
And as for Barry’s head on a pike, I’ll believe it when I see it, even if he is facing more charges than perjury ( I know obstruction of justice. What else?)