# The specific clusterfuck of discussing war plans over Signal, a consumer cellphone app

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**Created:** [March 26, 2025, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-specific-clusterfuck-of-discussing-war-plans-over-signal-a-consumer-cellphone-app/1016157 "2025-03-26T21:01:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-specific-clusterfuck-of-discussing-war-plans-over-signal-a-consumer-cellphone-app/1016157/54 "2025-03-26T13:49:58Z")

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One of my cousins shared this:

> Reporter: “Would it be a problem if the Atlantic released all the text messages if they’re not classified?”
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> That’s the question, isn’t it?
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> Trump says this whole thing is manufactured by the “sleazebag press.”
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> Okay. I take him at his word. Which always been so truthful and based in reality, right? No reason to doubt President Trump, is there? Is there, Republicans? No reason to doubt his veracity at all. No, Sir. You Republicans have to be feeling pretty confident right now, right?
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> So, it’s simple. Trump says the texts are not classified. The Secretary of Defense, the National Security Advisor, the Director of National Intelligence, the Secretary of State, they all say the texts aren’t classified.
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> Okay.
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> Then there should be no problem whatsoever making a full unredacted transcript of the entire session public along with the names of every participant.
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> Right?
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> If Trump is telling the truth and the conversation was unclassified and national security was not compromised by his administration, then he can crush his political opponents, completely emasculate the Democrats, and end this entire situation in one fell swoop.
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> He would be totally and immediately vindicated.
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> All he has to do is release the full transcript. Simple. He would have instant and absolute victory.
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> IF he’s telling the truth.

> [@The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues/1010068/3429):
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> It has just come to my attention via train Reddit that several of Amtrak’s short-haul commuter lines are going dark effective immediately because there’s been a nationwide recall of the Horizon passenger cars that comprise most of the fleet.
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> This has GOT to be Elmo’s doing somehow.

I don’t see any news links about that. But Leon Skum wants to privatise Amtrak to make it more efficient (or something). For the record…

> **[Amtrak Sets All-Time Ridership Record in Fiscal Year 2024 - Amtrak Media](https://media.amtrak.com/2024/12/amtrak-sets-all-time-ridership-record-in-fiscal-year-2024/)**
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> Invests more than $4.5 billion in major infrastructure projects to support future growth WASHINGTON – Amtrak achieved an all-time ridership record in

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