# The SPLC Victim Support Group **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 24, 2019, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-splc-victim-support-group/831455 "2019-03-24T14:58:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2019, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-splc-victim-support-group/831455/1 "2019-03-24T14:58:51Z")
Now that this outfit has been revealed in even the most left wing of [publications](https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-reckoning-of-morris-dees-and-the-southern-poverty-law-center)as being a hustle, perhaps now it is time for its victims to commiserate. I was thinking of something along the lines of what they did with the Madoff con, and other similar cons. Since I have not the budget to produce a 60 Minutes-style expose, complete with crying victims leaning into the embrace of their steadfast but weary spouses, this thread will do. Maybe the victims should first tell us how much they were hustled for, then lay out exactly how they were trapped in the Dees con. I know at least one of you have already copped to having been bilked. Now that you know were hustled by a con only slightly more sophisticated than the Nigerian email play, will you share with us your feelings? Please don’t make me do a search and out all the simpleminded folks who sent a portion of their SS check every year. This is a safe space. On another level, we have the many many posters who have cited the SPLC. These naifs overlap nicely with those who believe they can spot fake news. Maybe that’s why the dewy-eyed simps were so happy when Alex Jones got booted, they knew they were so credulous that they must be shielded from what others can obviously discern as bullshit. This thread is also for you. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2019, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-splc-victim-support-group/831455/2 "2019-03-24T15:32:17Z")
Even that article recognizes the enormous amount of good the SPLC has done over the years. Which doesn’t excuse any of the organizations’ sins. Hopefully it will do better going forward, because white supremacism in the US is still a powerful force. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2019, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-splc-victim-support-group/831455/3 "2019-03-24T15:47:26Z")
Fuck off, **Will**. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2019, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-splc-victim-support-group/831455/4 "2019-03-24T15:48:33Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Now that this outfit has been revealed in even the most left wing of [publications](https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-reckoning-of-morris-dees-and-the-southern-poverty-law-center)as being a hustle, perhaps now it is time for its victims to commiserate. > > I was thinking of something along the lines of what they did with the Madoff con, and other similar cons. Since I have not the budget to produce a 60 Minutes-style expose, complete with crying victims leaning into the embrace of their steadfast but weary spouses, this thread will do. Maybe the victims should first tell us how much they were hustled for, then lay out exactly how they were trapped in the Dees con. > > I know at least one of you have already copped to having been bilked. Now that you know were hustled by a con only slightly more sophisticated than the Nigerian email play, will you share with us your feelings? Please don’t make me do a search and out all the simpleminded folks who sent a portion of their SS check every year. This is a safe space. > > On another level, we have the many many posters who have cited the SPLC. These naifs overlap nicely with those who believe they can spot fake news. Maybe that’s why the dewy-eyed simps were so happy when Alex Jones got booted, they knew they were so credulous that they must be shielded from what others can obviously discern as bullshit. This thread is also for you. Why yes, just because one finds that Nixon was a crook then it follows that all Republicans after were. And it also follows that therefore all the efforts they did were bad for the nation. /s (Some will argue that, but again, finding good examples of the bad does not deny the good efforts) Even I can see how weapon’s grade stupid your “logic” is. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2019, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-splc-victim-support-group/831455/5 "2019-03-24T15:48:34Z")
Althought the nature Morris Dees’ fuck-up hasn’t been disclosed, I will note that he was fired over it. You will not see this happen with Republicans. In addition, the President of the group has stepped down. I hope the organization is able to clean house, because they do good work in this country. (I would, however, like to see Morris Dees own up to whatever he did. He’s let a lot of donors down, and maybe caused hurt- I don’t know what the hell he’s accused of.) ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2019, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-splc-victim-support-group/831455/6 "2019-03-24T16:06:59Z")
“The work could be meaningful and gratifying. But it was hard, for many of us, not to feel like we’d become pawns in what was, in many respects, a highly profitable scam.“ “We were working with a group of dedicated and talented people, fighting all kinds of good fights, making life miserable for the bad guys. And yet, all the time, dark shadows hung over everything: the racial and gender disparities, the whispers about sexual harassment, the abuses that stemmed from the top-down management, and the guilt you couldn’t help feeling about the legions of donors who believed that their money was being used, faithfully and well, to do the Lord’s work in the heart of Dixie. We were part of the con, and we knew it.” ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2019, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-splc-victim-support-group/831455/7 "2019-03-24T16:09:15Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Why yes, just because one finds that Nixon was a crook then it follows that all Republicans after were. And it also follows that therefore all the efforts they did were bad for the nation. /s > > (Some will argue that, but again, finding good examples of the bad does not deny the good efforts) > > Even I can see how weapon’s grade stupid your “logic” is. I have no idea why you are rambling about Nixon and Republicans. I’m talking about scams, cons, and hoodwinks. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2019, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-splc-victim-support-group/831455/8 "2019-03-24T16:10:40Z")
Eh, what **Kobal2** said. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2019, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-splc-victim-support-group/831455/9 "2019-03-24T16:11:49Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Fuck off, **Will**. Anger. > [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Even that article recognizes the enormous amount of good the SPLC has done over the years. Which doesn’t excuse any of the organizations’ sins. Hopefully it will do better going forward, because white supremacism in the US is still a powerful force. Denial. From what I’ve heard, these are stages victims go through. I was thinking of something different in the way of testimonials, but maybe it is not the time. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2019, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-splc-victim-support-group/831455/10 "2019-03-24T16:14:24Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Denial. > > From what I heard, these are stages victims go through. > > I was thinking of something different in the way of testimonials, but maybe it is not the time. I’m sorry if you’re in denial that the SPLC is a flawed organization with some flawed leaders that nevertheless has done some good things in its history. And I’m sorry if you’re in denial that this doesn’t excuse the bad things its done, including bilking gullible people out of money. But if you’d like to discuss the actual facts of this flawed organization, you might actually find some people willing to discuss it. If you’re just interested in silliness like whatever this straw-man post is (are you of the impression that I, or any particular other posters, have donated money to the SPLC?), then you’ll probably be lonesome. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2019, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-splc-victim-support-group/831455/11 "2019-03-24T16:18:09Z")
It’s about damn time somebody challenged the San Pedro Lacrosse Championships. Those refs were blind! ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2019, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-splc-victim-support-group/831455/12 "2019-03-24T16:18:43Z")
I’m here to help. I understand it is hard to admit when you fall for a scam. One time years ago I gave a lady $5 on the street after a sob story. She was out there hours later. Those with good intentions are often the target of scams like the SPLC. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2019, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-splc-victim-support-group/831455/13 "2019-03-24T16:21:00Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I’m sorry if you’re in denial that the SPLC is a flawed organization with some flawed leaders that nevertheless has done some good things in its history. And I’m sorry if you’re in denial that this doesn’t excuse the bad things its done, including bilking gullible people out of money. But if you’d like to discuss the actual facts of this flawed organization, you might actually find some people willing to discuss it. If you’re just interested in silliness like whatever this straw-man post is (are you of the impression that I, or any particular other posters, have donated money to the SPLC?), then you’ll probably be lonesome. Can we get a dollar amount, for the record? For how much did they take you to the cleaners? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2019, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-splc-victim-support-group/831455/14 "2019-03-24T16:22:28Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Can we get a dollar amount, for the record? For how much did they take you to the cleaners? Zero. Are you in denial about this? I’m sorry if so. Having your expectations shattered can be difficult. EDIT: Why not share with us the organizations to whom you’ve donated. Are you afraid to this, or maybe in denial? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2019, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-splc-victim-support-group/831455/15 "2019-03-24T16:23:00Z")
Simple really: When someone in a left-leaning organization does something unethical, this means the entire organization is the same, and indeed, the entire left political spectrum must also bear the responsibility. This is because they are not just wrong in their ideas but actively evil. When the organization censures this person, and even fires the person at the top, this simply proves their guilt, and reinforces the fact that the entire left is to blame. Conversely: When someone in a right-leaning organization does something unethical, this means that they were a bad apple, probably coerced into this act by leftist ideas. Because of this, the entire left political spectrum must bear the responsibility. This is because the right-wing are not just correct in their ideas but blessed by God himself. When the organization protects and promotes this person, and denies that anything bad ever happened, and that this story is “fake new”, this simply proves their innocence, and reinforces the fact that the entire left is to blame. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2019, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-splc-victim-support-group/831455/16 "2019-03-24T16:24:51Z")
Re: **andy** We have a survivor! Perhaps you knew the SPLC stuff was BS all along but cited them for partisan political purposes. Congrats, you avoided the scam, but please hang out to offer support for the economic victims. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2019, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-splc-victim-support-group/831455/17 "2019-03-24T16:26:20Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Simple really: > > When someone in a left-leaning organization does something unethical, this means the entire organization is the same, and indeed, the entire left political spectrum must also bear the responsibility. This is because they are not just wrong in their ideas but actively evil. When the organization censures this person, and even fires the person at the top, this simply proves their guilt, and reinforces the fact that the entire left is to blame. > > Conversely: > > When someone in a right-leaning organization does something unethical, this means that they were a bad apple, probably coerced into this act by leftist ideas. Because of this, the entire left political spectrum must bear the responsibility. This is because the right-wing are not just correct in their ideas but blessed by God himself. When the organization protects and promotes this person, and denies that anything bad ever happened, and that this story is “fake new”, this simply proves their innocence, and reinforces the fact that the entire left is to blame. Post 6 The New Yorker article plainly states the organization was a con. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2019, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-splc-victim-support-group/831455/18 "2019-03-24T16:27:41Z")
**WillF** , what organizations have you donated money to? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2019, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-splc-victim-support-group/831455/19 "2019-03-24T16:31:37Z")
“…Center attorneys filed a civil suit on behalf of Donald’s mother, Beulah Mae Donald vs. United Klans. In 1987, the Center won an historic $7 million verdict against the men involved in the lynching. The verdict marked the end of the United Klans, the same group that had beaten the Freedom Riders in 1961, murdered civil rights worker Viola Liuzzo in 1965, and bombed Birmingham’s 16th Street Baptist Church in 1963.” > **[Donald v. United Klans of America](https://www.splcenter.org/seeking-justice/case-docket/donald-v-united-klans-america)** That’s all for me here. Go to Hell, Op. And fuck off, too. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2019, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-splc-victim-support-group/831455/20 "2019-03-24T16:31:56Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Re: **andy** > > We have a survivor! Perhaps you knew the SPLC stuff was BS all along but cited them for partisan political purposes. Congrats, you avoided the scam, but please hang out to offer support for the economic victims. I can’t tell what you’re actually responding to. If you actually want to have a conversation, please be specific – what the hell is this post referring to? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-splc-victim-support-group/831455.md?page=2)