# The SPLC Victim Support Group

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-splc-victim-support-group/831455>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 24, 2019, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-splc-victim-support-group/831455 "2019-03-24T14:58:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2019, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-splc-victim-support-group/831455/41 "2019-03-25T15:35:00Z")

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> [@WillFarnaby](#):
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> On another level, we have the many many posters who have cited the SPLC. These naifs overlap nicely with those who believe they can spot fake news. Maybe that’s why the dewy-eyed simps were so happy when Alex Jones got booted, they knew they were so credulous that they must be shielded from what others can obviously discern as bullshit. This thread is also for you.

Please point out where in the post you cited there was any suggestion that the outward actions, causes and statements supported by the SPLC were in any way incorrect. Near as I can tell the main criticism was that the internal mismanagement of the organization prevented them from doing even more good work.

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2019, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-splc-victim-support-group/831455/42 "2019-03-25T16:11:32Z")

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My ignorance of the SPLC hasn’t been properly fought. I didn’t know what that acronym stood for.

And I have to confess I haven’t been paying much attention to who **WillFarnaby** is or what he says.  
But after reading this thread it seems like I was going about this matter correctly.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2019, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-splc-victim-support-group/831455/43 "2019-03-25T16:15:54Z")

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> [@BubbaDog](#):
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> My ignorance of the SPLC hasn’t been properly fought. I didn’t know what that acronym stood for.

When I see it I always think it must be a variant of HPLC (high performance liquid chromatography).

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2019, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-splc-victim-support-group/831455/44 "2019-03-25T16:18:02Z")

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> [@WillFarnaby](#):
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> Yes that’s why rackets like representative democracy and the mafia are successful. They do things that on the surface are good like handing out turkeys on Thanksgiving. Meanwhile it’s extortion and murder that backs it all up.

if I were to sock as a shit-faced hate-filled caricature of a human being, I would use you as a prime example to emulate.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2019, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-splc-victim-support-group/831455/45 "2019-03-25T16:33:19Z")

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> [@WillFarnaby](#):
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> Yes that’s why rackets like representative democracy and the mafia are successful. They do things that on the surface are good like handing out turkeys on Thanksgiving. Meanwhile it’s extortion and murder that backs it all up.

Wait, what? I want to hear more. Where do I get my free government turkey?

Meanwhile, what’s the argument here? Does the OP believe he’s found some sort of airtight argument against charitable donations, or what?

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**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2019, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-splc-victim-support-group/831455/46 "2019-03-25T16:34:39Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> Please point out where in the post you cited there was any suggestion that the outward actions, causes and statements supported by the SPLC were in any way incorrect. Near as I can tell the main criticism was that the internal mismanagement of the organization prevented them from doing even more good work.

The output largely cited were political targets of SPLC. They were simple smear jobs. The claims of racism were hyperbolic, as claimed by the whistleblower. There are serious problems with someone who cites from a source that is referred to by its own members as a con.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2019, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-splc-victim-support-group/831455/47 "2019-03-25T16:48:56Z")

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Lay off poor Will, he clearly needs all the victim support he can get.

God only knows what was done to him in childhood.

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**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2019, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-splc-victim-support-group/831455/48 "2019-03-25T16:53:40Z")

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If you would like to qualify your citations of SPLC, go ahead. I would suggest something like the following: “The SPLC, internally described as a scam by its content providers, believes \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ is a white supremacist organization because \_\_\_\_\_. “

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2019, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-splc-victim-support-group/831455/49 "2019-03-25T17:18:21Z")

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> [@WillFarnaby](#):
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> The output largely cited were political targets of SPLC. They were simple smear jobs. The claims of racism were hyperbolic, as claimed by the whistleblower.

Where does your cite say that?

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2019, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-splc-victim-support-group/831455/50 "2019-03-25T17:24:28Z")

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**WillFarnaby** : screaming libertarian silliness into the wind since 2011.

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**Author:** ![Covfefe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@Covfefe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covfefe)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2019, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-splc-victim-support-group/831455/51 "2019-03-25T17:26:13Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Lay off poor Will, he clearly needs all the victim support he can get.
> 
> God only knows what was done to him in childhood.

Considering that to him [this](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21470020&postcount=47) is a grand putdown, I imagine what he went through was either extremely mild or extremely severe.

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**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2019, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-splc-victim-support-group/831455/52 "2019-03-25T18:10:12Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Where does your cite say that?

“Outside of work, we spent a lot of time drinking and dishing in Montgomery bars and restaurants about the oppressive security regime, the hyperbolic fund-raising appeals, and the fact that, though the center claimed to be effective in fighting extremism, “hate” always continued to be on the rise, more dangerous than ever, with each year’s report on hate groups. “The S.P.L.C.—making hate pay,” we’d say.“

This coming from a true believer, mind you.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2019, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-splc-victim-support-group/831455/53 "2019-03-25T18:31:18Z")

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> [@WillFarnaby](#):
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> “Outside of work, we spent a lot of time drinking and dishing in Montgomery bars and restaurants about the oppressive security regime, the hyperbolic fund-raising appeals, and the fact that, though the center claimed to be effective in fighting extremism, “hate” always continued to be on the rise, more dangerous than ever, with each year’s report on hate groups. “The S.P.L.C.—making hate pay,” we’d say.“
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> This coming from a true believer, mind you.

Sorry, I guess I wasn’t clear. I was asking for a cite that, “The output largely cited were political targets of SPLC. They were simple smear jobs. The claims of racism were hyperbolic, as claimed by the whistleblower.”

Do you have that?

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2019, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-splc-victim-support-group/831455/54 "2019-03-25T18:39:56Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> “…Center attorneys filed a civil suit on behalf of Donald’s mother, Beulah Mae Donald vs. United Klans. In 1987, the Center won an historic $7 million verdict against the men involved in the lynching. The verdict marked the end of the United Klans, the same group that had beaten the Freedom Riders in 1961, murdered civil rights worker Viola Liuzzo in 1965, and bombed Birmingham’s 16th Street Baptist Church in 1963.”  
> [Donald v. United Klans of America](https://www.splcenter.org/seeking-justice/case-docket/donald-v-united-klans-america)

Now, now; it isn’t very polite to rub Will’s face in what I’m sure is a painful memory…

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2019, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-splc-victim-support-group/831455/55 "2019-03-25T18:48:55Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> When I see it I always think it must be a variant of HPLC (high performance liquid chromatography).

Somebody got sloppy with their terms and meant size-exclusion chromatography. Which would probably be a “problematic” term if you found the right part of Tumblr to post it on.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2019, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-splc-victim-support-group/831455/56 "2019-03-26T01:32:45Z")

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> [@WillFarnaby](#):
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> “Outside of work, we spent a lot of time drinking and dishing in Montgomery bars and restaurants about the oppressive security regime, the hyperbolic fund-raising appeals, and the fact that, though the center claimed to be effective in fighting extremism, “hate” always continued to be on the rise, more dangerous than ever, with each year’s report on hate groups. “The S.P.L.C.—making hate pay,” we’d say.“
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> This coming from a true believer, mind you.

I don’t think this says what you think it says. Hate is on the rise and more resources are needed to fight that.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2019, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-splc-victim-support-group/831455/57 "2019-03-26T01:34:26Z")

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Americans overall are probably getting smarter, but the ones that are getting dumber are becoming proud of their dumbness.

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