# "The Stand" questions take two

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 27, 2011, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-stand-questions-take-two/572759 "2011-02-27T00:27:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-stand-questions-take-two/572759/61 "2011-02-28T21:03:51Z")

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Sure! I have it on DVD. I almost watched it this past weekend.

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**Author:** ![3\_20\_59\_or\_bust](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/47e85d/32.png) [@3\_20\_59\_or\_bust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/3_20_59_or_bust)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-stand-questions-take-two/572759/62 "2011-02-28T22:10:43Z")

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> [@Rilchiam](#):
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> Bill Fagerbakke was perfectly cast as Tom Cullen!

Wow, I never thought about it until now, but yeah…

Tom Cullen is a lot like Patrick Star.

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-stand-questions-take-two/572759/63 "2011-02-28T22:50:25Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> She either didn’t read the book _at all_ or purposely remade the character into the complete, exact opposite of the Nadine Cross in the novel.

It’s not really san Giacomo’s fault that Nadine wasn’t…well, Nadine. She was combined with Rita for purposes of character economy, and rather than just insert Nadine into Rita’s (very brief) role, they really blended the characters.

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**Author:** ![Osiris\_the\_1st](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/9de0a6/32.png) [@Osiris\_the\_1st](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Osiris_the_1st)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-stand-questions-take-two/572759/64 "2011-02-28T23:53:27Z")

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> [@obfusciatrist](#):
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> No there’s no indication. Not even indication that it was a Polynesian island for sure.
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> He wakes up on a beach next to a jungle. He’s wearing jeans and boots and nothing else. They are “brown, smooth skinned folk.” They possess spears. They don’t sepak English, Spanish, German, or French.
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> A macaw and a mongoose are seen. Assuming (for the sake of argument) that it wasn’t simply a mistake by King, macaws and mongoose do not overlap in their indigenous habitats. So if nothing else this would indicate that Flagg has returned to a place and time after humans introduced one of them into the environment of the other.
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> So it is open to almost whatever you want it to be but I have always assumed a post-plague remote island or very remote part of Africa that had not been reached by the flu.

There’s not even an indication of whether Flagg was on the same level of the Tower as Captain Trips anymore. Remember one of the more popular ways to move to another level was to die on your current one.

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**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2011, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-stand-questions-take-two/572759/65 "2011-03-01T00:23:00Z")

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Loved the book, liked the miniseries. But something that bugged me about both of them was the way so many people ended up dead more or less where they were standing (drivers still in their cars, soldiers still at their posts).

If a disease starts as sniffles, then gets progressively worse, then you eventually die, sure some people may end up dying in the driver’s seat of their car, and some soldiers might die still clutching their rifles, but most will lie down in the back seat, or stumble out of the car and die in a ditch, or (in the case of soldiers) report to the infirmary, or perhaps be shot on sight the moment they start sniffling, or something. The dead people seem like they were infected by some kind of insta-kill nerve gas, not the progressive disease that is otherwise described.

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**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2011, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-stand-questions-take-two/572759/66 "2011-03-01T07:32:00Z")

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> [@Equipoise](#):
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> Back when I first read the book, I pictured Tommy Lee Jones as Stu. I never pictured anyone else in particular for any of the other characters. I agree Gary Sinese was good as Stu, but Molly Ringwald was too old and all wrong for Frannie, one of my favorite characters ever. I like Molly Ringwald, but no, just no. I’ve only seen the miniseries once, and I’ve kind of blocked out everyone else, especially the guy who played Randall Flagg, who was a good actor but nowhere near scary enough. Oh wait, now it’s coming back to me. I absolutely HATED the woman who played Nadine and the guy who played Harold. I’m sure they’re lovely people, I just hated them in those roles.

I don’t think Molly and Gary had very good chemistry either, so that didn’t help.

I agree with the Corin Nemic and Laura San Giancomo casting being wrong also, nothing against those two, but that just didn’t work. I’m not sure why Laura San Giancomo played it like that, but I’ve seen her in other stuff where she was much better. I like the miniseries, but yeah, there are some pretty big owies in it. I agree with Tommy Lee Jones as Stu Redman also, too bad he’s too old. I also liked Rob Lowe as Nick Andros and LOVED (can’t remember his name, the guy from “Coach”) as Tom Cullen.

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**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2011, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-stand-questions-take-two/572759/67 "2011-03-01T07:36:05Z")

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> [@Rebo](#):
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> Sure! I have it on DVD. I almost watched it this past weekend.

Heh, me too! Couldya tell?

Yes, there’s stuff wrong, but enough is right that I still enjoy it.

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**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2011, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-stand-questions-take-two/572759/68 "2011-03-01T07:39:12Z")

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> [@MaxTheVool](#):
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> Loved the book, liked the miniseries. But something that bugged me about both of them was the way so many people ended up dead more or less where they were standing (drivers still in their cars, soldiers still at their posts).
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> If a disease starts as sniffles, then gets progressively worse, then you eventually die, sure some people may end up dying in the driver’s seat of their car, and some soldiers might die still clutching their rifles, but most will lie down in the back seat, or stumble out of the car and die in a ditch, or (in the case of soldiers) report to the infirmary, or perhaps be shot on sight the moment they start sniffling, or something. The dead people seem like they were infected by some kind of insta-kill nerve gas, not the progressive disease that is otherwise described.

They kind of covered that in the book in a couple of cases by mentioning (one I can remember is a man from Lucy Swann’s town) where she says something like “he seemed to have thrown if off completely and then later he just fell down dead in the street”. I got the idea that people would get these little mini-reprieves, feel better, go out to do something normal and then it would just KO them wherever they happened to be.

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