# The story about Israelis stealing organ in Haiti **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [February 13, 2010, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-story-about-israelis-stealing-organ-in-haiti/528858 "2010-02-13T14:27:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![PrettyVacant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/49beb7/32.png) [@PrettyVacant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PrettyVacant)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2010, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-story-about-israelis-stealing-organ-in-haiti/528858/1 "2010-02-13T14:27:42Z")
[This ones a little weird:](http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8513662.stm) > [@](#): > > The Liberal Democrat leader has sacked his health spokeswoman in the House of Lords after comments she made about alleged organ trafficking in Haiti. > > Jenny Tonge told the Jewish Chronicle there should be an inquiry into claims that Israeli troops sent there after the earthquake were trafficking organs. > > Nick Clegg said the comments were “wrong, distasteful and provocative” and dismissed her from her post. Given what the American missionary’s are charged with and given that Israel [has previous in relation to harvesting organs](http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/12/21/israel.organs/index.html) the judgment of “wrong, distasteful and provocative” seems a little harsh. She was only asking for an inquiry - what do you think? After all, there’s obviously nothing to hide. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2010, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-story-about-israelis-stealing-organ-in-haiti/528858/2 "2010-02-13T16:09:07Z")
Wouldn’t the place to start be to make an inquiry to Tonge as to what evidence she has, if any? She cites the Palestine Telegraph, but a search of that publication’s website turns up no such allegations. So either Tonge was mistaken about her source, or the Telegraph has withdrawn it. Shouldn’t that be cleared up first? One thing the Telegraph does have on its website is an article speculating that the US caused the earthquake in Haiti by testing an earthquake machine. Do you think there should be an inquiry into that allegation? There’s obviously nothing to hide. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2010, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-story-about-israelis-stealing-organ-in-haiti/528858/3 "2010-02-13T16:20:37Z")
I think Tonge should be investigated for that whole child porn thing. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2010, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-story-about-israelis-stealing-organ-in-haiti/528858/4 "2010-02-13T16:49:01Z")
:smack: > [@PrettyVacant](#): > > [has previous in relation to harvesting organs](http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/12/21/israel.organs/index.html) That one doctor at one site had used his influence to sell organs on the black market of cadavers that came to that site (no “harvesting” went on), and he was investigated for it and eventually removed from his post. Are you alleging that he was in Haiti recently, or something? > [@PrettyVacant](#): > > the judgment of “wrong, distasteful and provocative” seems a little harsh. It’s not harsh enough. Conspiracy Theorist vomit based on paranoid fantasies and a wiling desire to play a rousing game of Let’s Make Believe would be a bit more accurate. > [@PrettyVacant](#): > > She was only asking for an inquiry - what do you think? > After all, there’s obviously nothing to hide. Sure. And then let’s investigate them to be sure that they weren’t anal probing cattle in Wyoming. And to make sure that they didn’t use their own earthquake machine to fuck with Haiti. And then let’s investigate the Haitians to make sure that the Loa aren’t real and that _they_ didn’t cause the earthquake. And then… And for fuck’s sake, what evidence (:rolleyes:) is the claim even founded on? The mere fact that Israelis were there? That doesn’t strike you as paranoid bigotry? “Ayieeeee, Israelis engaged in a mission of mercy! Conduct an inquiry, you know what _those people_ are like!!!” Oh, and: > [@](#): > > “To prevent allegations such as these - which have already been posted on You Tube - going any further, the IDF and the Israeli Medical Association should establish an independent inquiry immediately to clear the names of the team in Haiti.” A youtube video, quick, we must launch a full investigation, spare no expense! Fuck, just search for videos on the Jews/Israel/whatever and you’ll see that Israel really should be investigating until the sun burns out and the universe suffers Heat Death. After all, if it has nothing to hide… ---
**Author:** ![PrettyVacant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/49beb7/32.png) [@PrettyVacant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PrettyVacant)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2010, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-story-about-israelis-stealing-organ-in-haiti/528858/5 "2010-02-13T16:57:56Z")
Like I said in the OP, given Israeli’s history in harvesting organs and what the US missionary’s may have been doing in Haiti, it seemed a reasonable question to ask. Not sure what earthquake machines have to do with either of the above points? ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2010, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-story-about-israelis-stealing-organ-in-haiti/528858/6 "2010-02-13T16:59:50Z")
\*What \*FUCKING _history?_ ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2010, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-story-about-israelis-stealing-organ-in-haiti/528858/7 "2010-02-13T17:12:17Z")
I heard Israeli soldiers were seen giving Haitian children candy, and later one of the U.S. missionaries in Haiti woke up in a bathtub full of ice with a sutured incision on his flank and one less kidney. Could there be a connection? We need a free and full investigation, preferably with sex tapes. ---
**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2010, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-story-about-israelis-stealing-organ-in-haiti/528858/8 "2010-02-13T17:16:30Z")
Did you read your own cite? The “organ harvesting” refers to the removal of corneas during autopsies. At the time, this was apparently a legal grey area. It happened. It stopped. Should we set up an inquiry to make sure the US army is rounding up slaves for transportation back to the Antebellum South? ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2010, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-story-about-israelis-stealing-organ-in-haiti/528858/9 "2010-02-13T17:17:09Z")
Jack, we have YouTube videos. _YouTube videos!_ I think we’re well past a full and free investigation. Release the hounds. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2010, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-story-about-israelis-stealing-organ-in-haiti/528858/10 "2010-02-13T17:18:35Z")
> [@Tom\_Tildrum](#): > > Wouldn’t the place to start be to make an inquiry to Tonge as to what evidence she has, if any? She cites the Palestine Telegraph, but a search of that publication’s website turns up no such allegations. So either Tonge was mistaken about her source, or the Telegraph has withdrawn it. Shouldn’t that be cleared up first? Evidence? _Evidence?_ For heaven’s sake, did you not read the OP? They’re JOOS! What more evidence do you need? ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2010, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-story-about-israelis-stealing-organ-in-haiti/528858/11 "2010-02-13T17:22:19Z")
> [@PrettyVacant](#): > > LNot sure what earthquake machines have to do with either of the above points? I’m wondering why you are picking and choosing among what the Telegraph prints. And pursuing something that even the Telegraph appears to have dropped. For that matter, what connection are you suggesting the American missionairies have to your organ-stealing allegation? You keep mentioning it in a coy way; why don’t you just come out and say what it is you’re thinking? ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2010, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-story-about-israelis-stealing-organ-in-haiti/528858/12 "2010-02-13T17:26:59Z")
American missionaries are a well known front for Zionist agents. They were not actually trying to ‘adopt’ the children to anybody, but were capturing them to harvest their organs. What, do I need to draw you a map? ---
**Author:** ![ZPhobiaZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/9de0a6/32.png) [@ZPhobiaZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPhobiaZ)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2010, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-story-about-israelis-stealing-organ-in-haiti/528858/13 "2010-02-13T20:19:16Z")
> [@PrettyVacant](#): > > [This ones a little weird:](http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8513662.stm) > Given what the American missionary’s are charged with and given that Israel [has previous in relation to harvesting organs](http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/12/21/israel.organs/index.html) the judgment of “wrong, distasteful and provocative” seems a little harsh. She was only asking for an inquiry - what do you think? > > After all, there’s obviously nothing to hide. I think, if you find that link at all relevant, you have no grasp of context. ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2010, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-story-about-israelis-stealing-organ-in-haiti/528858/14 "2010-02-14T00:32:08Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > And then let’s investigate the Haitians to make sure that the Loa aren’t real and that _they_ didn’t cause the earthquake. And then… > . Of course the Loa are real! They DID cause the earthquake. They were angry. Damballah is not mocked. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2010, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-story-about-israelis-stealing-organ-in-haiti/528858/15 "2010-02-14T16:33:30Z")
Well, then I say we investigate this Damballah fellow. I don’t trust him. His name sounds foreign. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2010, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-story-about-israelis-stealing-organ-in-haiti/528858/16 "2010-02-14T16:42:19Z")
> [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](#): > > Should we set up an inquiry to make sure the US army is rounding up slaves for transportation back to the Antebellum South? Given America’s history of enslaving black people, I think we do need an inquiry about those missionaries. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2010, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-story-about-israelis-stealing-organ-in-haiti/528858/17 "2010-02-14T16:42:55Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > I think Tonge should be investigated for that whole child porn thing. I wonder, did she stop beating her husband yet? How about those allegations that she raped and murdered a boy in 1990? I think that a full investigation into the facts of the matter is warranted. After all, she never denied that those things happened. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2010, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-story-about-israelis-stealing-organ-in-haiti/528858/18 "2010-02-14T17:00:47Z")
I’m still waiting for contrary evidence that the “dancing Israelis” didn’t orchestrate 9/11… ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2010, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-story-about-israelis-stealing-organ-in-haiti/528858/19 "2010-02-14T18:26:20Z")
The plot thickens. It is now clear that [this](http://community.klipsch.com/forums/storage/4/1059236/Fisk_organ_StLukes_Tampa.jpg) is the organ the Israelis have stolen. They have also stolen organs from [this notorious organ master](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._Power_Biggs), and plan to set up a cadre of international organ elites. Pipe up now, or expect the chords of doom. ---
**Author:** ![PrettyVacant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/49beb7/32.png) [@PrettyVacant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PrettyVacant)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2010, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-story-about-israelis-stealing-organ-in-haiti/528858/20 "2010-02-15T02:20:03Z")
A lot odd inexplicable responses in this thread, a lot of weirding out. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-story-about-israelis-stealing-organ-in-haiti/528858.md?page=2)