# The story about Israelis stealing organ in Haiti **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [February 13, 2010, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-story-about-israelis-stealing-organ-in-haiti/528858 "2010-02-13T14:27:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2010, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-story-about-israelis-stealing-organ-in-haiti/528858/41 "2010-02-15T20:06:41Z")
So you’re not going to even attempt to support your own OP any time soon? Just want to make sure we’re on the same page here. > [@PrettyVacant](#): > > Forgive me if I baulk at your breath of options, which seem to range all the way across the spectrum from A to B (‘anti’ the State of Israel \> outright religious hatred): Sometimes a military unit is just a military unit. No, it’s pretty clearly a bigoted position that the Palestinian Telegraph and Miss Batshit were trying to sell. Baseless accusations of organ thievery because the nationality permits such conspiracy theories to gain traction is pretty much a textbook definition of bigotry in action. Much like if you had African relief workers in an area and demanded an investigation to make sure that they weren’t stealing watermelons or frying up other people’s chickens, to say nothing of all the white women they must be raping. > [@PrettyVacant](#): > > Actually, what we have is a society in chaos, where normal civil order - including records - no longer exist. In such an environment much can occur. Yes, like I said, vague handwaving because you aint got nuthin’. Somehow you go from US missionaries –\> an isolated incident in Israel that was resulted in a guy losing his position and which never involved organ harvesting anyways –\> ZOMG! CONSPIRACY!!! You do understand that “in such an environment, much can occur” does not justify the use of man-hours and money in order to track down every bit of bigotry that gets tossed out by the Palestinian Telegraph, right? ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2010, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-story-about-israelis-stealing-organ-in-haiti/528858/42 "2010-02-15T20:25:27Z")
> [@PrettyVacant](#): > > Actually, what we have is a society in chaos, where normal civil order - including records - no longer exist. In such an environment much can occur. Then why single out the Israelis? Why not investigate the Americans, British or Brazillians for organ theft? They all had hospitals in Haiti, too. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2010, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-story-about-israelis-stealing-organ-in-haiti/528858/43 "2010-02-15T20:40:59Z")
It especially doesn’t make sense because there’s been a net gain of corneas in Haiti: [http://www.asylum.com/2010/01/19/cnn-finds-box-of-corneas-in-haiti/](http://www.asylum.com/2010/01/19/cnn-finds-box-of-corneas-in-haiti/) ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2010, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-story-about-israelis-stealing-organ-in-haiti/528858/44 "2010-02-15T20:48:41Z")
Meh, this specific claim is so wacky that it’ll fail to get any traction… except among some poor, ignorant victim wondering about the fate of relatives who ended up in the mass grave. But were I a betting man I’d put money on that by now ill-intentioned people are spreading the word that the foreign doctors deliberately went in without bringing along fifty state-of-the-art fully-equipped mobile trauma hospitals (which of course, every rich white country has by the dozen, fully staffed and supplied and ready-to-go to deploy on instant notice anywhere on the planet within a day), out of sheer callousness of figuring they’d just cut off Haitians’ limbs so as to not bother with the hassle of actual treatment. The “wretched of the Earth” are prime material for falling victim to conspiracy theories. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2010, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-story-about-israelis-stealing-organ-in-haiti/528858/45 "2010-02-15T20:56:36Z")
[QUOTE=Captain Amazing] It especially doesn’t make sense because there’s been a net gain of corneas in Haiti [/quote] _Port-au-Prince, it’s a helluva town Corneas are up, but spare kidneys are down The earthquake’s left a big hole in the ground Port-au-Prince - it’s a helluva town!_ ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2010, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-story-about-israelis-stealing-organ-in-haiti/528858/46 "2010-02-15T21:17:12Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > Meh, this specific claim is so wacky that it’ll fail to get any traction… except among some poor, ignorant victim wondering about the fate of relatives who ended up in the mass grave. > > But were I a betting man I’d put money on that by now ill-intentioned people are spreading the word that the foreign doctors deliberately went in without bringing along fifty state-of-the-art fully-equipped mobile trauma hospitals (which of course, every rich white country has by the dozen, fully staffed and supplied and ready-to-go to deploy on instant notice anywhere on the planet within a day), out of sheer callousness of figuring they’d just cut off Haitians’ limbs so as to not bother with the hassle of actual treatment. > > The “wretched of the Earth” are prime material for falling victim to conspiracy theories. Actually, the only country that arrived at Haiti with a state-of-the-art fully-equipped mobile trauma hospital, fully staffed and supplied and ready-to-go to deploy on instant notice anywhere on the planet within a day… was Israel. I love irony. ---
**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2010, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-story-about-israelis-stealing-organ-in-haiti/528858/47 "2010-02-15T21:24:22Z")
Dude, obviously Da Jooz just doo that to make the rest of the world trust them and to try to prove how benevolent and helpful they are…all the while, doing their secret dirty work harvesting the organs of innocent children to make matzo balls and gefilte fish. Don’t you understand how it works? ---
**Author:** ![Huerta88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/82dd89/32.png) [@Huerta88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Huerta88)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2010, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-story-about-israelis-stealing-organ-in-haiti/528858/48 "2010-02-15T21:25:19Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Actually, the only country that arrived at Haiti with a state-of-the-art fully-equipped mobile trauma hospital, fully staffed and supplied and ready-to-go to deploy on instant notice anywhere on the planet within a day… was Israel. > > I love irony. Weren’t some of them already there as UN peacekeepers? I’m not sure it’s so much ironic. If this fact was publicized early on, it could have become the can’t-win-for-losing kernel of whatever Palestinian CT is floating around. “Just why were they SO ready . . .?” The Palestinian street sometimes strikes me as credulous/superstitious on the order of African panics that sorcerers are stealing their penises. ---
**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2010, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-story-about-israelis-stealing-organ-in-haiti/528858/49 "2010-02-15T21:35:40Z")
It’s traditional insane paranoia about the Jooz/Freemazonz/CIA/whatever. There HAS to be some kind of ulterior motive behind EVERYTHING they do, and there is ALWAYS a secret eeevil hidden plot beneath the surface. It’s not exclusive to the Arab world but the Arab world buys into it on a huge scale. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-story-about-israelis-stealing-organ-in-haiti/528858.md?page=2)