# The Straight Dop?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dop/74711>\
**Category:** About This Message Board\
**Created:** [August 2, 2001, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dop/74711 "2001-08-02T23:33:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![Spyderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@Spyderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spyderman)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2001, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dop/74711/1 "2001-08-02T23:33:15Z")

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I just noticed that the big yellow and blue STRAIGHT DOPE banner is written as such **THE STRAIGHT DOPsub[/sub]E** and not **THE STRAIGHT DOPE SUB[/SUB]**

What gives?

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**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2001, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dop/74711/2 "2001-08-02T23:42:12Z")

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Holy Lord on the Cross of Calvary…He found out!

SWARM!

SWARM!

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**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2001, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dop/74711/3 "2001-08-03T00:07:54Z")

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I think it just looks nicer in the design. Pepsi has always put their trademark symbol after the second P, so it appears as PEP[sub]®[/sub]SI and not PEPSI®.

Either way, ® is easier to handle than “Reg. U.S. Pat. Off.”

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**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2001, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dop/74711/4 "2001-08-03T00:09:31Z")

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It’s just a graphic design t’ing, mon.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2001, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dop/74711/5 "2001-08-03T01:36:58Z")

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It’s just because there’s no room for it on the end. If you put the ® after the rectangular E, then you’d need to make the banner that much wider, and you’d have an empty vertical strip at the end. Under the P, though, there’s plenty of room.

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**Author:** ![Moe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moe/32/2972_2.png) [@Moe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moe)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2001, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dop/74711/6 "2001-08-06T02:28:31Z")

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> [@](#):
>
> \*Originally posted by mobo85 \*  
> \*\*I think it just looks nicer in the design. Pepsi has always put their trademark symbol after the second P, so it appears as PEP[sub]®[/sub]SI and not PEPSI®.
> 
> Either way, ® is easier to handle than “Reg. U.S. Pat. Off.” \*\*

how do you get that ®? I had to do a copy and paste from quoting you.

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**Author:** ![Montfort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Montfort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Montfort)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2001, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dop/74711/7 "2001-08-06T02:49:24Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Moe \*  
> \*\*how do you get that ®? I had to do a copy and paste from quoting you. \*\*

Alt-0174 on the numeric keypad gives: ®

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**Author:** ![Moe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moe/32/2972_2.png) [@Moe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moe)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2001, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dop/74711/8 "2001-08-06T18:03:21Z")

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®

pretty cool

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**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2001, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dop/74711/9 "2001-08-06T20:55:32Z")

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Here’s the whole ASCII extended character set.

```auto

**alt + 0032 = space
alt + 0033 =	! exclamation mark
alt + 0034 =	" double quotation mark
alt + 0035 =	# number sign
alt + 0036 =	$ dollar sign
alt + 0037 =	% percent sign
alt + 0038 =	& ampersand
alt + 0039 =	' apostrophe
alt + 0040 =	( left parenthesis
alt + 0041 =	) right parenthesis
alt + 0042 =	* asterisk
alt + 0043 =	+ plus sign
alt + 0044 =	, comma
alt + 0045 =	- hyphen
alt + 0046 =	. period
alt + 0047 =	/ slash
alt + 0058 =	: colon
alt + 0059 =	; semicolon
alt + 0060 =	< less-than sign
alt + 0061 =	= equals sign
alt + 0062 =	> greater-than sign
alt + 0063 =	? question mark
alt + 0064 =	@ at sign
alt + 0091 =	[ left square bracket
alt + 0092 =	\ backslash
alt + 0093 =	] right square bracket
alt + 0094 =	^ caret
alt + 0095 =	_ horizontal bar (underscore)
alt + 0096 =	` grave accent
alt + 0123 =	{ left curly brace
alt + 0124 =	| vertical bar
alt + 0125 =	} right curly brace
alt + 0126 =	~ tilde
alt + 0127 =		square
alt + 0130 =	‚	comma
alt + 0131 =	ƒ	function
alt + 0132 =	„	low left rising double quote
alt + 0133 =	…	ellipsis
alt + 0134 =	†	dagger mark
alt + 0135 =	‡	double dagger
alt + 0136 =	ˆ	letter modifying circumflex
alt + 0137 =	‰	per thousand sign
alt + 0138 =	Š	capital S caron or haceck
alt + 0139 =	‹	left single angle quote
alt + 0140 =	Œ	capital OE ligature
alt + 0145 =	‘ left single quotation mark
alt + 0146 =	’ right single quoatation mark
alt + 0147 =	“ left double quotation mark
alt + 0148 =	” right double quotation mark
alt + 0149 =	• round solid bullet
alt + 0150 =	– en dash
alt + 0151 =	— em dash
alt + 0152 =	˜ small tilde
alt + 0153 =	™ trademark
alt + 0154 =	š s caron or hacek
alt + 0155 =	› right single angle quotation mark
alt + 0156 =	œ small oe ligature
alt + 0159 =	Ÿ capital Y umlaut
alt + 0160 = nonbreaking space
alt + 0161 =	¡ inverted exclamation
alt + 0162 =	¢ cent sign
alt + 0163 =	£ pound sterling
alt + 0164 =	¤ general currency sign
alt + 0165 =	¥ yen sign
alt + 0166 =	¦ broken vertical bar
alt + 0167 =	§ section sign
alt + 0168 =	¨ umlaut
alt + 0169 =	© copyright
alt + 0170 =	ª feminine ordinal
alt + 0171 =	« left angle quote
alt + 0172 =	¬ not sign
alt + 0173 =	­ soft hyphen
alt + 0174 =	® registered trademark
alt + 0175 =	¯ macron accent
alt + 0176 =	° degree sign
alt + 0177 =	± plus or minus
alt + 0178 =	² superscript two
alt + 0179 =	³ superscript three
alt + 0180 =	´ acute accent
alt + 0181 =	µ micro sign
alt + 0182 =	¶ paragraph sign
alt + 0183 =	· middle dot
alt + 0184 =	¸ cedilla
alt + 0185 =	¹ superscript one
alt + 0186 =	º masculine ordinal
alt + 0187 =	» right angle quote
alt + 0188 =	¼ one-fourth
alt + 0189 =	½ one-half
alt + 0190 =	¾ three-fourths
alt + 0191 =	¿ inverted question mark
alt + 0192 =	À uppercase A, grave accent
alt + 0193 =	Á uppercase A, acute accent
alt + 0194 =	Â uppercase A, circumflex accent
alt + 0195 =	Ã uppercase A, tilde
alt + 0196 =	Ä uppercase A, umlaut
alt + 0197 =	Å uppercase A, ring
alt + 0198 =	Æ uppercase AE
alt + 0199 =	Ç uppercase C, cedilla
alt + 0200 =	È uppercase E, grave accent
alt + 0201 =	É uppercase E, acute accent
alt + 0202 =	Ê uppercase E, circumflex accent
alt + 0203 =	Ë uppercase E, umlaut
alt + 0204 =	Ì uppercase I, grave accent
alt + 0205 =	Í uppercase I, acute accent
alt + 0206 =	Î uppercase I, circumflex accent
alt + 0207 =	Ï uppercase I, umlaut
alt + 0208 =	Ð uppercase Eth, Icelandic
alt + 0209 =	Ñ uppercase N, tilde
alt + 0210 =	Ò uppercase O, grave accent
alt + 0211 =	Ó uppercase O, acute accent
alt + 0212 =	Ô uppercase O, circumflex accent
alt + 0213 =	Õ uppercase O, tilde
alt + 0214 =	Ö uppercase O, umlaut
alt + 0215 =	× multiplication sign
alt + 0216 =	Ø uppercase O, slash
alt + 0217 =	Ù uppercase U, grave accent
alt + 0218 =	Ú uppercase U, acute accent
alt + 0219 =	Û uppercase U, circumflex accent
alt + 0220 =	Ü uppercase U, umlaut
alt + 0221 =	Ý uppercase Y, acute accent
alt + 0222 =	Þ uppercase THORN, Icelandic
alt + 0223 =	ß lowercase sharps, German
alt + 0224 =	à lowercase a, grave accent
alt + 0225 =	á lowercase a, acute accent
alt + 0226 =	â lowercase a, circumflex accent
alt + 0227 =	ã lowercase a, tilde
alt + 0228 =	ä lowercase a, umlaut
alt + 0229 =	å lowercase a, ring
alt + 0230 =	æ lowercase ae
alt + 0231 =	ç lowercase c, cedilla
alt + 0232 =	è lowercase e, grave accent
alt + 0233 =	é lowercase e, acute accent
alt + 0234 =	ê lowercase e, circumflex accent
alt + 0235 =	ë lowercase e, umlaut
alt + 0236 =	ì lowercase i, grave accent
alt + 0237 =	í lowercase i, acute accent
alt + 0238 =	î lowercase i, circumflex accent
alt + 0239 =	ï lowercase i, umlaut
alt + 0240 =	ð lowercase eth, Icelandic
alt + 0241 =	ñ lowercase n, tilde
alt + 0242 =	ò lowercase o, grave accent
alt + 0243 =	ó lowercase o, acute accent
alt + 0244 =	ô lowercase o, circumflex accent
alt + 0245 =	õ lowercase o, tilde
alt + 0246 =	ö lowercase o, umlaut
alt + 0247 =	÷ division sign
alt + 0248 =	ø lowercase o, slash
alt + 0249 =	ù lowercase u, grave accent
alt + 0250 =	ú lowercase u, acute accent
alt + 0251 =	û lowercase u, circumflex accent
alt + 0252 =	ü lowercase u, umlaut
alt + 0253 =	ý lowercase y, acute accent
alt + 0254 =	þ lowercase thorn, Icelandic
alt + 0255 =	ÿ lowercase y, umlaut
alt + 8217 =	’ curly apostrophe*
alt + 8220 =	“ open quotation mark*
alt + 8221 =	” close quotation mark*
alt + 8364 =	€ Euro symbol***

```

- may not work in older browsers

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**Author:** ![Moe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moe/32/2972_2.png) [@Moe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moe)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2001, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dop/74711/10 "2001-08-06T22:15:35Z")

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Thanks Unc. I had no idea this even existed.

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**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2001, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dop/74711/11 "2001-08-06T22:26:12Z")

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You can also C&P any these characters from Windows Character Map; just set the font to Arial, or Courier to see your choices. You don’t necessarily need to memorize the keystrokes.

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**Author:** ![curwin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f05b48/32.png) [@curwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curwin)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2001, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dop/74711/12 "2001-08-07T05:54:24Z")

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©®¼½¾¶‡™¥

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2001, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dop/74711/13 "2001-08-07T15:43:55Z")

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> [@](#):
>
> \*Originally posted by curwin \*  
> \*\*©®¼½¾¶‡™¥ \*\*

Hey, watch your language!
