# The Straight Dope Flirt Academy

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-flirt-academy/157035>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [February 23, 2003, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-flirt-academy/157035 "2003-02-23T23:57:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![TruePisces](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/truepisces/32/13628_2.png) [@TruePisces](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruePisces)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2003, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-flirt-academy/157035/41 "2003-02-24T19:13:18Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Toffe \*  
> \*\*🙂
> 
> You know, I think I’ve been working too hard - once you start imagining pink fluffy turtles zooming around your room, you must be kinda stressed… so, what do you do around here?
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> _gremlins start plotting to mess with Toffe’s luck_ \*\*

_small, shy smily crosses my lips_ Pretty much everything, really. I teach practical classes, I do a little one on one tutoring. I think the tutoring has to be my favorite part of teaching here. You really get a… feel for things that way.

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> \*Originally posted by Scuba\_Ben \*  
> \*\*:: excessive eyeing / ogling / staring ::
> 
> :: long awkward pause (anywhere from a few minutes to a few years!) ::
> 
> Um… hi…
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> (In a heavy flat monotone, to control a high anxiety level) We. met. yesterday. at. the. Philly. Fest. and. you. talked. about. reopening. the. flirt. academy. I. don’t. know. what. flirting. is. Where. do. I. sign. up. for. Flirting. 101?
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> (And that, Professor, is one of my better openings, in that I actually say something!)\*\*

Hmmm… and I never would have guessed this was a problem, after having met you yesterday. You seemed to keep you your end of the conversation wonderfully. 😉

But, I _am_ here to serve. So, Flirting 101… where would you like to begin? How to recognize a flirt? How to find a good opening line? Or should we try a little simulation to see where what natural talents you have? 😉

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> \*Originally posted by Payne N. Diaz \*  
> **Is it too late to add this class? I am absolutely clueless when it comes to flirting/ being flirted at. Maybe there’s a remedial course?**

Well, the classes are really tailored to the individual, so we can start wherever you’d like. And we have rolling admission, so you can join whenever you’d like. What would you like to start on? Seeing the signs? Flirting online? Flirting out of the virtual world? Or a little simulation? I’m at your disposal, to do with what you will. 😉

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**Author:** ![TruePisces](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/truepisces/32/13628_2.png) [@TruePisces](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruePisces)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2003, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-flirt-academy/157035/42 "2003-02-24T19:28:49Z")

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> \*Originally posted by SkipMagic \*  
> \*\*Dear Prof,
> 
> A **DoperChick** (mad props to successful graduate **UncleBill** for the name) has already lost an unfortunate coin toss and has agreed to marry me. So, although I don’t feel that I need to flirt any more ('cause I’m not sure she won’t come in and catch me practicing), I would like to audit the class for enjoyment’s sake. I promise I won’t cause many interruptions, although you may look over and see that I’m throwing kissy faces at the women I’m hoping are wild and wanton.
> 
> Or maybe just wild with wonton soup. That’s good stuff, that is.
> 
> Anyway, if you don’t mind, I’ll just pull up a chair here in the back, and get ready to pucker up… \*\*

Feel free to audit, **Skip**. I wouldn’t want you to get in any trouble with that special DoperChick, though I must stress that being single isn’t a requirement, as long as your partner knows and approves (heck, I have a special DoperGuy, whom I’m marrying in 6 1/2 months, and he has no problems with this. He may even get in to help teach one of these days).

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> \*Originally posted by Bishamon \*  
> \*\*How am I doin’? Cold actually. Would you mind if I sat a little closer to warm up? \*\*

Oh, I insist! Now that you mention it, it _is_ a little chilly in here…

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> **Besides, it’s _so_ noisy in here and it’s hard to hear you over all of the racket. And I must say that was one fine Joey impersonation. Do you do others?**

_blushes prettily_ Well, I’ve been told I do a pretty good May West. Why don’t you come up and see me sometime? 😉

(how’s that?)

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**Author:** ![TruePisces](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/truepisces/32/13628_2.png) [@TruePisces](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruePisces)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2003, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-flirt-academy/157035/43 "2003-02-24T19:31:17Z")

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Grrr… that’s what I get for not paying attention when I type. I should have had the part after the May West quote say:

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> \*\*  
> (how’s that?)\*\*

A fine, fine start, **Bishamon**. I think you’re going to be one of my star pupils!

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**Author:** ![Toffe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e19adc/32.png) [@Toffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toffe)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2003, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-flirt-academy/157035/44 "2003-02-24T20:06:43Z")

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> \*Originally posted by TruePisces \*  
> \*\*_small, shy smily crosses my lips_ Pretty much everything, really. I teach practical classes, I do a little one on one tutoring. I think the tutoring has to be my favorite part of teaching here. You really get a… feel for things that way.  
> \*\*

_turns bright red_

Yeah, direct hands-on teaching is the best. Especially with languages… Unfortunately I can only tell you how great that blouse looks on you in seven of them.

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Hey, I can probably limp my way through flirting with someone, but my real problem is telling when others are flirting with me. It even took me a while to figure out that that girl I met at a party last year who kept asking if she could hug me (sure 🙂 ) was probably flirting a little… Lately I’ve gone to the pub a few times with a nice woman I know, but I can’t tell if she’s flirting at all and so I don’t know if we’re just becoming friends (as per usual, which is great as well). Any tips, Professor?

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**Author:** ![hampster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/53a042/32.png) [@hampster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hampster)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2003, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-flirt-academy/157035/45 "2003-02-24T20:46:49Z")

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> \*Originally posted by TruePisces \*  
> You, like **Kyla** , are a natural flirt. And, yes, it’s caused a few problems in the past, but you just need to hone your skill a bit more. Find someone around here to practice with. I’ll see who I can scare up for you. (For those interested, I’d flirt with **hampster** myself, but he’s been like a brother to me for about six years now, and flirting with him just feels WRONG!!!)

Yeah, well no offense I’d flirt with you too but I’ve had it up to _here_ **—\>**

with Americans!

No, I’m kidding, I love Americans. (That’s part of the problem actually…)  
Anybody want to play Spin-the-Bottle? We can all get together and take turns flirting with random people within the group? It would make making the first move a lot easier.

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**Author:** ![SwimmingRiddles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@SwimmingRiddles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SwimmingRiddles)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2003, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-flirt-academy/157035/46 "2003-02-24T20:51:40Z")

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OK, Prof. I’ve got a question of flirting morality: I’m in a bar. A handsome, seemingly non-mass murderer walks over to my table (I am with about 6 people, some of them male, so this is a bold move.) we talk a lot. Witty banter (my flirting method of choice) ensues. Later on, while singing loudly to a bad Karaoke version of something, he has his hand on my shoulder, and slowly moves it to my neck. Despite all of these (and others) signs that he’s interested, I never give him my number. In my defense, he never asked.

A week later I am at the same bar with a different group of people. He walks to the table. I am excited. He doesn’t see me at first, and begins talking to the girl sitting next to me, who, I learn, is his ex-girlfriend.

Questions:  
A.) I didn’t attempt to grab his attention the second time, under the theory that even if I am totally over my ex, I still don’t want to see them macking on some other woman. Was I morally correct?  
B.) Even AFTER recognizing me, he never even waved or anything. Should I take this personally?  
C.) If I see this guy again, should I say something like “hey, remember me?” Or is that just asking for humiliation?

Oh, and my little flirting tip for the fellas: while having a girls night out, the subject turned to flirting techniques. It was almost universally agreed upon that if done correctly, this is a winner: While walking to the door with the object of your desire, holding the door and GENTLY putting your hand on her lower back (NOT ASS) is a sauve move. And, it gives her the chance to move away quickly if she’s not interested.

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**Author:** ![TeleTronOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4af34b/32.png) [@TeleTronOne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TeleTronOne)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2003, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-flirt-academy/157035/47 "2003-02-24T21:16:20Z")

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I think I’m definately in need of a refresher course. I wasn’t great at it to begin with, but most of my good friends growing up were female, and I got it pounded into my brain that pretty much anything I could do other than sit down and shut up, would make me either a “jerk”, “perv”, or “stalker”. This did not have a positive effect on my psyche, and so I am extremely hesitant to do just about anything.

But… umm… Hey, how 'ya doin? So… do you like… stuff?

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2003, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-flirt-academy/157035/48 "2003-02-24T21:27:05Z")

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> \*Originally posted by TruePisces \*  
> As some may remember, I ran a Flirt Academy here about two years ago.

That’s right, I remember flunking out of that thread. Has it really been two years?

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**Author:** ![Frank\_2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8c91f0/32.png) [@Frank\_2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank_2)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2003, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-flirt-academy/157035/49 "2003-02-24T21:58:28Z")

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> \*Originally posted by TeleTronOne \*  
> \*\*But… umm… Hey, how 'ya doin? So… do you like… stuff? \*\*

Jerk. 😉

I know exactly how you feel. If women constantly label every man in world as a “jerk” or a “pig” then why would a man ever approach one of these women? They don’t make it easy on us, do they?

Say Prof, is the “club her over the head and drag her back to the cave” method still an acceptable form of flirting? If not, lemme try this:

_That’s a really cool pendant that your wearing. It really brings out the color of your eyes. Say, isn’t that shade of blue also associated with Pisces? Looks great on you, real natural and lets the “real you” shine through._

Enough butt-kissing, anyone else want some harmless yet heart-warming flirting thrown their way? 😃

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**Author:** ![Gozu\_Tashoya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7993a0/32.png) [@Gozu\_Tashoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gozu_Tashoya)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2003, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-flirt-academy/157035/50 "2003-02-25T00:19:11Z")

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The word of the day is, um, peanut butter. No, wait…that wasn’t right…

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**Author:** ![monica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a183cd/32.png) [@monica](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monica)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2003, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-flirt-academy/157035/51 "2003-02-25T01:21:25Z")

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**Professor Pisces** , I have a problem that’s a bit different from that of the other posters. I often flirt unconciously. I don’t even realize I’m doing it until later! This can result in me sending lots of mixed signals which can be a problem. Help!

~ monica

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**Author:** ![Bishamon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3e96dc/32.png) [@Bishamon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bishamon)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2003, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-flirt-academy/157035/52 "2003-02-25T01:26:20Z")

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> \*Originally posted by TruePisces \*  
> \*\*_blushes prettily_ Well, I’ve been told I do a pretty good May West. Why don’t you come up and see me sometime?
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> \*\*

I would love to come up and see you sometime. I find it interesting that the person Mae was addressing was named Captain Cummings. A little double entendre there too perhaps, hmmm? I however, unlike Cary Grant, do happen to enjoy the company of women, particularly yours. I’m sure there’s other things about you I might enjoy too. What might they be?

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**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2003, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-flirt-academy/157035/53 "2003-02-25T03:47:13Z")

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_ **MissTake** , a tad late as usual, walks in with head tilted down, peering through her lashes. Nibbling nervously on her bottom lip, she walks up to the closest male…lays her hand on his arm…_

I hope I’m in the right place…am I?

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**Author:** ![Bishamon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3e96dc/32.png) [@Bishamon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bishamon)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2003, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-flirt-academy/157035/54 "2003-02-25T04:04:11Z")

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I guess that would be me. But of course, please, have a seat here next to me. I’m Bishamon, but you may call me Bish. Besides being fashionably late, you are . . . ?

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**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2003, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-flirt-academy/157035/55 "2003-02-25T04:28:11Z")

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**Professor Pisces** , not so long ago a lady on this board flirted with me. (I recognized it, so Step 1 I suppose I’ve got down.) In trying to flirt back, I tried to make a clever riposte, but instead ended up acting foolish, and I killed the thread to boot.

What sort of mindset ought I to have in flirting here? Should I have any role models in mind? (Please, no one from the Board, I have my standards you know.)

Awaiting your answer, **Duke**.

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**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2003, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-flirt-academy/157035/56 "2003-02-25T05:32:10Z")

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Thank you **Bish** , I’m MissTake  
_smiles at him_  
This is the flirting class, right? I mean, we’re not in Underwater Basketweaving 101, are we?

I mean, I usually can flirt okay when a man comes up and starts talking to me, but I have never been able to approach someone easily.

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**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2003, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-flirt-academy/157035/57 "2003-02-25T06:05:35Z")

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Well, no one ever flirts with me, and I never flirt with anyone, so I guess I need all the help I can get…

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**Author:** ![Improv\_Geek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b3f665/32.png) [@Improv\_Geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Improv_Geek)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2003, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-flirt-academy/157035/58 "2003-02-25T13:19:45Z")

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I would like to a study session right here in Atlanta. I’ll be glad to take ladies out to practice, and I’ll go out with guys to find females (being a Georgia Tech student you learn quickly where all the women hang out because it isn’t on campus).

So yeah - what do you guys say.

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**Author:** ![Frank\_2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8c91f0/32.png) [@Frank\_2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank_2)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2003, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-flirt-academy/157035/59 "2003-02-25T13:46:40Z")

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> \*Originally posted by alice\_in\_wonderland \*  
> \*\*Well, no one ever flirts with me, and I never flirt with anyone, so I guess I need all the help I can get… \*\*

What? A good-looking, fashionable woman like yourself? Come on, I can just tell that insdie your a confident & adventrous person. Maybe you need the right avenue to get comfortable so you can open up and chat with that crazy species we call “men”. Should we head someplace else a little more private so you can get “comfortable”? 🙂

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**Author:** ![DirkGntly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@DirkGntly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DirkGntly)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2003, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-flirt-academy/157035/60 "2003-02-25T15:08:46Z")

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Well, here’s my $.02 in the online world…this is an introduction I’ve used many times in online chat rooms, to introduce myself and start a flirt session:  
_DirkGntly,_ a 6ft tall Texan, walks up casually to {object of attention}, deftly removes his silver Stetson from his head, takes her hand, looks into her eyes and says, in a soft Texan drawl, “Howdy, Ma’am. I’m Dirk. It’s a real pleasure to meet ya. Would you care for a {dance/dinner/drink/whatever is appropriate to the situation}?”

The key here is to give enough detail to ignite the _imagination._ Let the woman fill in the details of slim/stocky/hair color/eye color/facial hair, etc…VERY powerful when starting an online flirt session…

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