# The Straight Dope, Long As You Toe The Line

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-long-as-you-toe-the-line/79594>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 4, 2001, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-long-as-you-toe-the-line/79594 "2001-09-04T00:40:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
**Page:** 8

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**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2001, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-long-as-you-toe-the-line/79594/143 "2001-09-09T23:54:56Z")

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Don’t worry, **Clare.** The Mods and Admin types close threads around here. Typically based upon whether it’s in the appropriate forum, or whether it’s just plain appropriate (extremely offensive posts are closed, such as ones that are extremely racist, or offer advice on circumventing the law).

When it runs out of steam, it just kind of fades away all on its own. I call it magic; I don’t trust those techy-types to tell me the truth. Stuff about electrons and bandwidth.

Whoever heard of such drivel?

**Spiny Norman:** I don’t have to provide a cite, as everyone in their right mind (that’s all of us lefties, for you heretics) knows it to be the truth. You see, we Great Debaters have accepted the Truth of the Word of Cecil as Gospel, and any debate by naysayers are just people who haven’t opened their eyes, minds and hearts to The Truth.

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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2001, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-long-as-you-toe-the-line/79594/144 "2001-09-10T00:21:17Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Clare Ashworth \*  
> **Aha! I attack you, Xanakis, with Dorset Blue Vinney!  
> It would make even the eyes of the staunchest moderator water!**

Hah! So you _think_!

That’s why the Straight Dope hired a _Dutch_ moderator: we’re completely immune to cheese smell! We’re born in it! I use a piece of Edammer as showering soap, and I brush my teeth with Gouda! So there!

Now, go away, or I shall taunt you a second time! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Arden\_Ranger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b487fb/32.png) [@Arden\_Ranger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arden_Ranger)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2001, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-long-as-you-toe-the-line/79594/145 "2001-09-10T00:34:33Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Coldfire \*  
> \*\*I use a piece of Edammer as showering soap, and I brush my teeth with Gouda! So there!  
> \*\*

Ewww… and women kiss that mouth?

😉

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**Author:** ![Monster104](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Monster104](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monster104)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2001, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-long-as-you-toe-the-line/79594/146 "2001-09-10T00:52:40Z")

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> Now, go away, or I shall taunt you a second time!

When did you become French? 😕

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**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2001, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-long-as-you-toe-the-line/79594/147 "2001-09-10T12:35:11Z")

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> \*Originally posted by jmonster \*  
> \*\*I believe you, **John** , but it _seems_ that moving a thread should be as simple as:
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> UPDATE threads SET forum\_id=“4” WHERE thread\_id=“85183”;\*\*

Yes, it is just that simple. However - that does not mean that there is not an observed increase in server time used, even though the SQL text seems straightforward. You have to rely on the personal experience of the Moderators and Administrators who use the function, even though the SQL action looks simple.

One thing you didn’t see when you looked at the scripts is that there is also some error checking that goes on before a thread is moved. The permissions need to be checked (of course, just like in an Open or Close action), but there are also the following actions carried out:

Can the destination forum contain posts?  
Checking the source forum permissions.  
Checking the destination forum permissions.  
Checking to see if this thread is being returned to a forum it’s already been in.  
…and so on.

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**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2001, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-long-as-you-toe-the-line/79594/148 "2001-09-10T13:30:03Z")

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Dear Billdo,

You are a very funny guy.

Love, Green Bean

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**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2001, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-long-as-you-toe-the-line/79594/149 "2001-09-10T16:43:34Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Anthracite \*  
> **Checking to see if this thread is being returned to a forum it’s already been in.**

Now why on earth does this matter?

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**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2001, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-long-as-you-toe-the-line/79594/150 "2001-09-10T17:12:26Z")

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> \*Originally posted by ultrafilter \*  
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> > \*Originally posted by Anthracite \*  
> > **Checking to see if this thread is being returned to a forum it’s already been in.**
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> Now why on earth does this matter? \*\*

Good question - one worthy of an answer, I say!

Oh yeah…I’m supposed to answer that. I was reading it out of the source code for the Board; I will look at it again tonight to see why it might be an issue.

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**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2001, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-long-as-you-toe-the-line/79594/151 "2001-09-10T17:33:58Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Anthracite \*  
> \*\*Oh yeah…I’m supposed to answer that. I was reading it out of the source code for the Board; I will look at it again tonight to see why it might be an issue. \*\*

Appreciate it.

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**Author:** ![Clare\_Ashworth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9dc877/32.png) [@Clare\_Ashworth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clare_Ashworth)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2001, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-long-as-you-toe-the-line/79594/152 "2001-09-10T21:45:04Z")

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ColdFire,  
I can only imagine you haven’t experienced a true onslaught of Dorset Blue Vinney!  
They sell it in tiny little triangles, which I thought was a bit mean, until I tried it!  
It’s a cheese not so much for eating, as for hand-to-hand-combat. I recommend a mask.  
I haven’t seen it lately in our supermarket - perhaps it killed too many people. Who likes the stuff? - that’s what I’d like to know!

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**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2001, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-long-as-you-toe-the-line/79594/153 "2001-09-10T23:17:31Z")

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> \*Originally posted by ultrafilter \*  
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> > \*Originally posted by Anthracite \*  
> > \*\*Oh yeah…I’m supposed to answer that. I was reading it out of the source code for the Board; I will look at it again tonight to see why it might be an issue. \*\*
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> Appreciate it. \*\*

Oops. It’s a vBulletin 2.x thing only, where it checks to see if the automatic “Moved Thread Redirect” is present or not (a really cool feature in version 2.x), and removes it if it is.

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**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-long-as-you-toe-the-line/79594/154 "2001-09-11T00:24:42Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Anthracite \*  
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> > > \*Originally posted by Anthracite \*  
> > > \*\*Oh yeah…I’m supposed to answer that. I was reading it out of the source code for the Board; I will look at it again tonight to see why it might be an issue. \*\*
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> > Appreciate it. \*\*
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> Oops. It’s a vBulletin 2.x thing only, where it checks to see if the automatic “Moved Thread Redirect” is present or not (a really cool feature in version 2.x), and removes it if it is. \*\*

Huh. It’s not something I would’ve thought to include, but I guess there’s a good reason.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_Wright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@Steve\_Wright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_Wright)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2001, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-long-as-you-toe-the-line/79594/155 "2001-09-11T13:34:11Z")

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Dorset Blue Vinney? Pshaw. A cheese for schoolgirls! _I_ have Gjetost!

(Well, actually, right at the moment, I haven’t - health and safety regulations and all that. But I know where I can get some…)

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