# The Straight Dope Message Board Enemies List™

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-message-board-enemies-list/1023288>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [September 22, 2025, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-message-board-enemies-list/1023288 "2025-09-22T12:33:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-message-board-enemies-list/1023288/1 "2025-09-22T12:33:58Z")

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In a [thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/someone-went-ahead-and-called-their-book-the-straight-dope/1023285) about the guy who had the temerity to write a book titled “The Straight Dope” without being Cecil I suggested adding him to our Enemies List™. That got me thinking, who would be on it and in which order?.

So, if only to start the ball rolling, my submission:

The Straight Dope Message Board Enemies List™:

1. The Straight Dope Message Board
2. James Cameron
3. That guy who wrote that book.
4. Donald J. Trump
5. The Flat Earth Society
6. Youth these days

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-message-board-enemies-list/1023288/2 "2025-09-22T12:41:24Z")

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> [@Frodo](#):
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> 1. James Cameron

\<mcnulty\>What the fuck did I do?\</mcnulty\>

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-message-board-enemies-list/1023288/3 "2025-09-22T12:44:18Z")

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He _knows_ what he did…

(It’s because he went to the Mariana Trench in 2012, thus ruining the whole “once, for 20 minutes, in the 1960s” thing)

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**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-message-board-enemies-list/1023288/4 "2025-09-22T12:47:47Z")

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‘The Straight Dope Message Board’ is #1 on ‘The Straight Dope Message Board Enemies List™’?

Are we that self-hating of a bunch?

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-message-board-enemies-list/1023288/5 "2025-09-22T12:57:56Z")

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Sometimes we are. You never been in The Pit?  
My contribution to The List:  
3. AI slop  
6. VP JD & Stephen Miller  
9. ~~Lufthansa~~ Iberia

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-message-board-enemies-list/1023288/6 "2025-09-22T13:05:13Z")

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It was a riff on Homer Simpson’s enemies list where the very first entry is “Homer Simpson”, but yes, while we may be not our #1 enemy I think we should be on the list, if only to keep us on our toes…

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**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-message-board-enemies-list/1023288/7 "2025-09-22T13:10:23Z")

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Homer, this is just Nixon’s list with his name scratched out and yours at the top

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-message-board-enemies-list/1023288/8 "2025-09-22T13:14:01Z")

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At least ours is not Homer’s list with his name scratched out and ours at the top…

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-message-board-enemies-list/1023288/9 "2025-09-22T13:48:09Z")

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Can I just add ‘Homer,’ then? But not Simpson – that MoFo that wrote _The Iliad._

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-message-board-enemies-list/1023288/10 "2025-09-22T13:50:35Z")

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“Sing, O muse, of the wrath of David, N Rockies, that brought countless ills upon the Dopers.”

Why the wrath against _The Iliad_? I liked the prose adaption I read about 3 decades ago…

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-message-board-enemies-list/1023288/11 "2025-09-22T13:55:24Z")

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> [@Frodo](#):
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> Why the wrath against _The Iliad_?

Not the _work._ The _man:_

> The authorship of the Odyssey and the Iliad is disputed. While some scholars believe Homer is solely responsible, others claim that the poems were retold and revised by numerous people. This theory has led to various explanations for the use of the word Homer. Some speculate that it was a term meaning wandering blind poet.

[**SOURCE**](https://www.britannica.com/biography/Homer-Greek-poet)

I know some stuff.

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-message-board-enemies-list/1023288/12 "2025-09-22T14:40:59Z")

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The whole MAGA movement and lot of other people in the Trump administration like Attorney General Pam Bondi and Robert Kennedy, Jr.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-message-board-enemies-list/1023288/13 "2025-09-22T14:42:49Z")

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Specially Kennedy.

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-message-board-enemies-list/1023288/14 "2025-09-22T15:09:37Z")

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There are all kinds of people in the political sphere such as Putin and Netanyahu and Elon Musk; but I think it would be more interesting for the OP to exclude those types.

So, would any of these strike ire here?

Meghan Markle/Prince Harry

Sean “Diddy” Combs

Kanye West

Bill Cosby

Gwyneth Paltrow

Woody Allen

Others?

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-message-board-enemies-list/1023288/15 "2025-09-22T15:12:34Z")

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Surely Oprah Winfrey must be up there

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**Author:** ![dorvann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df705f/32.png) [@dorvann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dorvann)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-message-board-enemies-list/1023288/16 "2025-09-22T15:34:22Z")

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William Poundstone-for revealing Cecil Adams’ “true identity” as…

Ed Zotti.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-message-board-enemies-list/1023288/17 "2025-09-22T15:38:23Z")

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Absolutely, the lying snitch.

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-message-board-enemies-list/1023288/18 "2025-09-22T16:15:15Z")

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> [@PastTense](#):
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> I think it would be more interesting for the OP to exclude those types

Agreed: I take VP JD & Stephen Miller back. Insert FIFA instead. Or, if it must be a person, make it their boss: Infantino, whom I like to call Mafiantino.

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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-message-board-enemies-list/1023288/19 "2025-09-22T16:25:16Z")

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There are a few woo-practitioners whose names seem to crop up a lot around here. Uri Geller was a common takedown target for a while.

I don’t know if anyone else feels the same about [Jonathan Haidt](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_foundations_theory) as I do, but he’s a PhD which is often trotted out as a “centrist” who says all sorts of flattering things about conservative psychology. It’s one example of a high-paying grift where pseudo-intellectuals sell conservatives’ own ideas back to them as some sort of forbidden knowledge or “scientifically proven” moral theory.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2025, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-message-board-enemies-list/1023288/20 "2025-09-22T19:15:33Z")

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Alan Alda

(Many here can’t mention him without bad-mouthing him.)

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