# The Straight Dope Political Census, Vol. 1: Outside the U.S.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-political-census-vol-1-outside-the-u-s/198977>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [September 1, 2003, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-political-census-vol-1-outside-the-u-s/198977 "2003-09-01T16:15:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2003, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-political-census-vol-1-outside-the-u-s/198977/41 "2003-09-03T01:05:40Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Mehitabel \*  
> **I take it there’s no primaries or anything where the members get to winnow down a field of candidates, not with those short campaigns.**

Depends: my party is fully democratic, in that all the members can vote for the parliament candidate list prior to the elections, by mail, internet, or attendance at the convention. This is not mandatory, however, although the Dutch labour party have adopted the process since then. Like they’ve adopted so many things, the thieving uncreative bastards. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Primaflora](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/898d66/32.png) [@Primaflora](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Primaflora)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2003, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-political-census-vol-1-outside-the-u-s/198977/42 "2003-09-03T01:33:17Z")

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Leftwing, politically correct, greenie. Have belonged to the Green Party in NZ but not currently a member of a political party. Have voted pragmatically in NZ after MMP came in.

::wanders off to finally finish her application for Australian citizenship now she’s found her birth certificate::

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2003, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-political-census-vol-1-outside-the-u-s/198977/43 "2003-09-03T01:53:42Z")

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Leftie, both in terms of economic and social policies, but who is mellowing somewhat in her old age. I’m just losing my militant oomph I guess. 😉

Used to be a member of one of the fringe socialist parties but not currently affiliated with any particular party.

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**Author:** ![London\_Calling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@London\_Calling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/London_Calling)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2003, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-political-census-vol-1-outside-the-u-s/198977/44 "2003-09-03T06:31:46Z")

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> \*Originally posted by sickboy51 \*  
> Could any citizen of the Evil Albion (UK) explain the joke about tooting?  
> Many thanks.

A catch-phrase in a teevee show called ‘Citizen Smith’. It started in 1977, ended in 1980 and was written by John Sullivan who went on to create the Trotter Family in ‘Only Fools and Horses’. Not that those dates mean much; it was a BBC production and those tend to get aired _somewhere_ on the beeb for decades and until the charcacters become part of the national character.

[The Tooting Popular Front](http://www.nostalgiacentral.com/tv/comedy/citizensmith.htm)

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**Author:** ![London\_Calling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@London\_Calling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/London_Calling)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2003, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-political-census-vol-1-outside-the-u-s/198977/45 "2003-09-03T06:33:31Z")

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I didn’t mention ‘sit-com’ in there, did I ? It was.

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**Author:** ![cajela](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9de0a6/32.png) [@cajela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cajela)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2003, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-political-census-vol-1-outside-the-u-s/198977/46 "2003-09-03T07:03:46Z")

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Pinko-Greenie-Lefty-PC-Feminazi, I think. By some standards.

Seriously: very very much small-l liberal on social issues.  
On economy, I tend to favour mixed economies with socialised essential services and private anything else, with proper regulation for ecology and safety and human rights and all.

I mostly vote Labor, since I will never forgive the Democrats for Meg Lees and the GST. But I vote for individuals, not the party ticket, in the senate - it was so much fun putting Fred Nile last. And I wanted to help Pauline Pantsdown get her deposit back a few years back…

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**Author:** ![Muad\_Dib](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/35a633/32.png) [@Muad\_Dib](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muad_Dib)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2003, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-political-census-vol-1-outside-the-u-s/198977/47 "2003-09-03T07:08:12Z")

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Also, **IF YOUR TAG DOES NOT SAY IT, TELL US WHERE YOU ARE FROM!**.

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**Author:** ![sickboy51](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@sickboy51](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sickboy51)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2003, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-political-census-vol-1-outside-the-u-s/198977/48 "2003-09-03T09:54:23Z")

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> \*Originally posted by London\_Calling \*  
> \*\*A catch-phrase in a teevee show called ‘Citizen Smith’. It started in 1977, ended in 1980 and was written by John Sullivan who went on to create the Trotter Family in ‘Only Fools and Horses’. Not that those dates mean much; it was a BBC production and those tend to get aired _somewhere_ on the beeb for decades and until the charcacters become part of the national character.
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> [The Tooting Popular Front](http://www.nostalgiacentral.com/tv/comedy/citizensmith.htm) \*\*

Too bad I never heard or watched that show. I usually enjoy old british sit-coms, like, say, The Roppers, or Doctor at Home. English humour is the best.

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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2003, 10:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-political-census-vol-1-outside-the-u-s/198977/49 "2003-09-03T10:07:32Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Muad’Dib \*  
> **TELL US WHERE YOU ARE FROM!**

Why, from Commie Pinko Weed & Hookers Land, of course. 🙂

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**Author:** ![auliya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/90db22/32.png) [@auliya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/auliya)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2003, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-political-census-vol-1-outside-the-u-s/198977/50 "2003-09-03T11:22:51Z")

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Raised to be a solid left wing labor supporter, who can no longer sustain that support. So, socialist in ideology, vote for the Greens these days.

Not a member of any political party myself but mother to members of the ISO. I am not so radical these days, and may consider joining the Greens before the next election

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**Author:** ![owlstretchingtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/958977/32.png) [@owlstretchingtime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/owlstretchingtime)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2003, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-political-census-vol-1-outside-the-u-s/198977/51 "2003-09-03T11:25:35Z")

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British; Conservative with a big and small C.

The more I see of Blair the more assured I am that I am right.

I am a fully paid up member of the party (although there are also ulterior motives at work here, to do with my occupation).

And the sooner bloody Tooting gets its independence the better. I pay my (lowerst in the country - well don ethe tories) Council Tax to Wandsworth who then spend it all on the paying for the feral folks of Tooting to attend anger management classes.

If they declared UDI the council would be sending me a cheque.

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**Author:** ![Mogadon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7feea3/32.png) [@Mogadon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mogadon)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2003, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-political-census-vol-1-outside-the-u-s/198977/52 "2003-09-03T15:57:53Z")

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I can’t really answer the original question because it doesn’t apply to me - it asks about foreign nationals, and I’m British.

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**Author:** ![Rune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@Rune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rune)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2003, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-political-census-vol-1-outside-the-u-s/198977/53 "2003-09-03T17:50:31Z")

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1. Often considered to be somewhat to right of Attila the Hun (bleeding heart liberal if you ask me 🙂 ), but I think myself mostly as a libertarian on most domestic issues.

2. Not member of any. Come election day I enter damage control and mostly pick my candidates to weed out the truly disastrous from the merely awful.

Liberal also is on the right wing in Denmark, wonder why the US goofed up the meaning so? What does liberal mean in the UK?

- Rune

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