# The Straight Dope used as a cite. **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [January 14, 2019, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-used-as-a-cite/827739 "2019-01-14T16:02:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2019, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-used-as-a-cite/827739/1 "2019-01-14T16:02:52Z")
The Anti-Semetic Origins of “Hip Hip Hooray!” The Straight Dope is cited in [this article.](https://www.jta.org/jewniverse/2014/the-anti-semitic-origins-of-hip-hip-hooray) ---
**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2019, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-used-as-a-cite/827739/2 "2019-01-14T17:41:37Z")
I doubt that its a first but its cool nonetheless! ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2019, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-used-as-a-cite/827739/3 "2019-01-14T17:45:25Z")
I’ve had students use the site as a cite on papers before. One even cited a Staff Report I had contributed to! I told them not to cite idiots on the internet in their paper. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2019, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-used-as-a-cite/827739/4 "2019-01-14T17:53:37Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > I told them not to cite idiots on the internet in their paper. But how great is the wisdom of a _crowd_ of idiots? The pedantic horde on here ensure far more stringent scrutiny than any peer review. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2019, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-used-as-a-cite/827739/5 "2019-01-14T18:07:04Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > I’ve had students use the site as a cite on papers before. One even cited a Staff Report I had contributed to! I told them not to cite idiots on the internet in their paper. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-used-as-a-cite/827739/6 "2019-01-15T10:56:11Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > I’ve had students use the site as a cite on papers before. One even cited a Staff Report I had contributed to! I told them not to cite idiots on the internet in their paper. Rookie mistake. Everyone knows you don’t cite the online article directly. You cite its sources. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-used-as-a-cite/827739/7 "2019-01-15T17:57:14Z")
I’ve had somebody on this board cite a Wikipedia article I wrote to me. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-used-as-a-cite/827739/8 "2019-01-15T18:15:40Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I’ve had somebody on this board cite a Wikipedia article I wrote to me. Did you argue with them over it? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2019, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-used-as-a-cite/827739/9 "2019-01-15T23:48:29Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Did you argue with them over it? > > :dubious: You have to ask? Have you been here before? ---
**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2019, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-used-as-a-cite/827739/10 "2019-01-16T01:59:09Z")
Interestingly, just a couple of days ago I found a citation from the SDMB in a book I’m reading. The book is _Weapons of Math Destruction_ by Cathy O’Neil. The citation is in the footnotes on page 248 of that book, and the footnote is to something said on page 188 of that book. The thing quoted is in post #1 in this thread: > **[Obama re-election campaign is growing the analytics team](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=617517)** > > from http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Hiring-analytics-experts-who-want-22313.S.60985928?qid=7495952f-0c5b-4054-9468-e237b1c28d2c&trk=group\_most\_popular-0-b-ttl However, the footnote doesn’t give that link. Instead, it links to the archive site. The link given is this one: [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/archive/index.php/t-617517.html](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/archive/index.php/t-617517.html) What the author of the book is trying to quote is the LinkedIn webpage whose URL is given in post #1 of the thread. However, it’s apparently impossible to reach that webpage unless you’re a LinkedIn member. So, instead, the author quotes a piece of the LinkedIn webpage that’s quoted in post #1 of the thread. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2019, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-used-as-a-cite/827739/11 "2019-01-17T13:06:11Z")
Towards the end of [this thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=359438) I digressed from the topic, noting all the citations to this board I kept finding. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2019, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-used-as-a-cite/827739/12 "2019-01-17T13:45:32Z")
I know we were cited in a magazine article about Breaking Bad. IIRC, it wasn’t used to back up a fact, but as a speculation about the show. We were also cited in a XKCD “What If” book. As a side note, I have a co-worker who tends not believe anything he reads on the internet, convinced everyone is just a troll making up fake info. One day he asked me a question, I answered and not believing me he googled it. He then said “Ok, I see it now, you’re right” and read me what he was looking at to which I replied “uhhh, who wrote that post” as he looked at the name he realized it was me. I gave him a hard time about that. He didn’t believe me when I told him in person, but believed me when I wrote it on the internet. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2019, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-used-as-a-cite/827739/13 "2019-01-17T18:55:56Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Towards the end of [this thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=359438) I digressed from the topic, noting all the citations to this board I kept finding. Bringing this from that other thread… > [@Origin of right = good / left = bad?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/origin-of-right-good-left-bad/345071/10): > > There really is no reason to bump this thread, other than noting that… for some reason… it got cited for a paper delivered at the 2012 International Communications Conference: > > [Which Way Did He Go? Directionality of Film Character and Camera Movement and Subsequent Spectator Interpretation](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/228448619_Which_Way_Did_He_Go_Directionality_of_Film_Character_and_Camera_Movement_and_Subsequent_Spectator_Interpretation). Page 18. > [@Origin of right = good / left = bad?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/origin-of-right-good-left-bad/345071/12): > > I have no idea, but if so, my guess would be that one of the posters in this thread is a likely candidate for being responsible for the inclusion of the cite. > > Googling further, I’m finding citations to the SDMB in a number of scholarly (for varying amounts of “scholarly”) sources, including named citations for **Sam Stone** , **CK Dexter Haven** , and **Gronk** in the book [Performance in a Militarized Culture](https://books.google.com/books?id=bGE1DwAAQBAJ&pg=PT354&lpg=PT354&dq=johnt+sdmb&source=bl&ots=yKl3H0BB95&sig=F_XPcTigXdZCjCFvxVyJPAq1poA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiC_O_Fuc3fAhVSHqwKHUjTBw0Q6AEwAnoECAgQAQ#v=onepage&q=johnt%20sdmb&f=false). Also, citations to SDMB threads can be found at [the US Army](https://www.armyupress.army.mil/Portals/7/military-review/Archives/English/MilitaryReview_20121031_art001.pdf) (PDF, pg51), someone who cited our research into [the nutritional value of rats](http://matthewgfrank.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/MAD-FEAST-copyedited-Sources.pdf) (Page 98), our discussion of [Waldorf Schools](https://sites.google.com/site/waldorfwatch/aid-and-comfort), a treatise on the [racism of Kant](http://www.academia.edu/1802951/Kants_Racism), and more, I’m sure. > [@Origin of right = good / left = bad?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/origin-of-right-good-left-bad/345071/13): > > LOL, some school used a thread to help explain away [that them fucking up diplomas is a thing that, yes, does happen](https://delgadofreedolphin.wordpress.com/category/la-state-news/page/2/). ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2019, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-straight-dope-used-as-a-cite/827739/14 "2019-01-18T01:30:58Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > But how great is the wisdom of a _crowd_ of idiots? The pedantic horde on here ensure far more stringent scrutiny than any peer review. Pedantic horde. Heh heh. THERE’S the new SDMB T-Shirt…