# The stupid rumors about Springfield Haitians **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 13, 2024, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-stupid-rumors-about-springfield-haitians/1007210 "2024-09-13T04:48:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-stupid-rumors-about-springfield-haitians/1007210/61 "2024-09-13T20:35:34Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > … _Leave it to Beaver_ bubble … _Leave it to Beaver_ was in much the same vein as _Father Knows Best_. What makes the latter more interesting as a historical artifact was its inclination to moralize. One famous episode, for example – “Betty the Engineer” – had Betty making the distinctly non-feminine career choice of wanting to be a civil engineer. It was bad enough that a young woman wanted a career at all, but this was a **man’s** profession! So naturally the other young men made fun of her and Betty was very sad. But everything turned out for the best when one of the engineering students asked her out on a date. With her parents’ help and encouragement, Betty gave up her silly career idea, her mother bought her a nice dress and dressed her up real pretty, the prospective boyfriend came by with a bouquet of flowers, and voila! Betty is now groomed to be a cooker of meals, washer of dishes, pusher of vacuum cleaners, and doer of laundry, as befits the female of the species. And everyone presumably lived happily ever after, 1950s style. /s There’s another one where Betty meets a USAF fighter pilot, and of course immediately falls for him because he’s, like, a USAF fighter pilot. But then the guy finds out that he may be transferred to Alaska. He tells Betty that if he is indeed transferred, he’ll fly over her house and do the old wing-wave (apparently telephones hadn’t been invented yet, or something). And that’s what happens. Not exactly sure what the moral of this one was supposed to be but judging from how stoically Betty accepts it, I guess it’s that “Patriotism” is more important than personal shit like love, and boyfriends are a dime a dozen anyway. The main thing is that the erstwhile boyfriend is Keeping the Country Safe from the Commies, so Betty has no regrets. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-stupid-rumors-about-springfield-haitians/1007210/62 "2024-09-13T20:35:58Z")
> [@Chingon](#): > > immigrants should do a better job of convincing white people that they won’t eat their pets. “Have you tried not eating pets?” Of course, the smooth-brains who believe this tripe really mean “have you tried not existing?” ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-stupid-rumors-about-springfield-haitians/1007210/63 "2024-09-13T20:51:24Z")
I used _Leave it to Beaver_ rather than _Father Knows Best_ as a cultural reference because I never really watched the latter (and given my age when they were on probably wouldn’t have understood the subplpots). But in retrospect you are correct regarding “proper” women’s roles. And since we were brought up RCC, there were only two respectable career paths for girls: mother or nun. It was borderline acceptable for a young woman to have a job — not a career — as a shop clerk or typist, but only until she found Mr Right (or he found her); after that, she was expected to drop everything and support him in his career. (The above only applied if she was white. Otherwise she would have to join her male counterparts in a distinctly subservient role.) ETA: It occurs to me that we’re engaged in a sidetrack, if not an outright hijack. Apologies. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-stupid-rumors-about-springfield-haitians/1007210/64 "2024-09-13T20:55:46Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > ETA: It occurs to me that we’re engaged in a sidetrack, if not an outright hijack. Apologies. Eh, it’s the Pit, and an interesting sidetrack. But I now return you to the discussion of cat-eating Haitians. 🐈 ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-stupid-rumors-about-springfield-haitians/1007210/65 "2024-09-13T21:05:00Z")
Replying to an off-topic post is not allowed and replying to a somewhat off-topic post with a wildly off-topic post can result in a warning. Again this is in #Politics & Elections & #Great Debates So no, not an excuse. Please do not do that again. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-stupid-rumors-about-springfield-haitians/1007210/66 "2024-09-13T21:06:43Z")
Back on topic, Trump _et. al._ seem to have stirred up at least a minor hornet’s nest in Florida: > **[Trump's Haitian immigrant comments stir outrage in Florida](https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2024-09-13/2024-election-trump-haitian-comments-florida)** > > Former President Trump's baseless comments about immigrants eating cats and dogs in Springfield, Ohio, have prompted outrage among Florida's large Haitian population. > “Let’s be clear: Haitians and other immigrants come to this country committed to education, hard work and building a better life, not just for themselves but for all of us,” said Rep. Sheila Cherfilus-McCormick, a Haitian American Democrat from South Florida, in a statement. “They contribute to our economy, enrich our culture, and strengthen our communities. Trump’s comments are a distraction from the real issues we face, and we won’t be fooled.” Of course, the impact shouldn’t be overstated: > “In Florida, we’ve seen the state and the presidency decided by 537 votes so any group can potentially sway an election or the presidency for that matter,” said [Miami-based pollster Fernand] Amandi, referring to the margin of victory in the contested 2000 election that came down to the Sunshine State. “I just don’t think it’s in the cards in 2024.” > > Amandi said it’s “plausible, probably not probable” that Florida would turn blue in the case of a landslide victory for Harris at the national level. Still, every little bit hurts. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-stupid-rumors-about-springfield-haitians/1007210/67 "2024-09-13T21:12:18Z")
Excellent! From the article: > Florida’s Haitian American population, estimated at about 500,000, is the nation’s largest and votes predominantly Democratic. Go Trump! Who else can you piss off next? I know you can do it! ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-stupid-rumors-about-springfield-haitians/1007210/68 "2024-09-13T21:17:45Z")
The small college town I have Dialysis has this problem every fall. You should hear the locals go on and on about traffic, noise, restaurants are full, Walmart is jammed with useless students roaming about. Crime goes up. Rental properties are snatched up. And, “You just know they won’t pay the rent!” /s. The fuss dies down about January. _“This is why we can’t have nice things…”_ ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-stupid-rumors-about-springfield-haitians/1007210/69 "2024-09-13T21:49:31Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > I have it on good authority that thousands of people in Springfield regularly take to the woods with arms in search of fresh meat. Disgusting, if you ask me. Hey! Whacking Day has a long and storied tradition. You might say it embiggens us all. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-stupid-rumors-about-springfield-haitians/1007210/70 "2024-09-13T22:13:07Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > But the racists don’t want to address those real problems, because they would require real solutions. Better to just rant about a bunch of cat-eating immigrants. I wonder if, say, a Senator from Ohio might be well placed to actually try to _solve_ these problems? Nah, I guess the job description for Senator from Ohio does not include doing anything positive whatsoever for the people of Ohio. Just attacking them and spreading lies about them. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-stupid-rumors-about-springfield-haitians/1007210/71 "2024-09-13T22:26:09Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > cat-eating Haitians I misread that as “cat-eating Horatius”, and had a moment of panic thinking you were having a go at me now! ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-stupid-rumors-about-springfield-haitians/1007210/72 "2024-09-13T22:28:57Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > I misread that as “cat-eating Horatius”, and had a moment of panic thinking you were having a go at me now!   No, you’re good, unless you start posting recipes for cat-fried rice! ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-stupid-rumors-about-springfield-haitians/1007210/73 "2024-09-13T22:29:55Z")
In this one instance, I’d really be more of a dog person. ---
**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-stupid-rumors-about-springfield-haitians/1007210/74 "2024-09-13T22:35:27Z")
No they Fucking arent. Fuck Vance, Trump, and the whole fucking GOP this is flat out Nazi/KKK bullshit. It takes a lot to stand out in the current political cycle but this is fucking evil racist slander. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-stupid-rumors-about-springfield-haitians/1007210/75 "2024-09-13T22:40:07Z")
Republicans: We support legal immigration and immigrants who obey the law and work hard Haitians: We have legally immigrated and are happy to take these jobs the locals don’t want Republicans: Not like that ---
**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-stupid-rumors-about-springfield-haitians/1007210/76 "2024-09-13T22:43:34Z")
There are also rumors this is actually all the doing of Trump’s new Nazi girlfriend Laura Loomer. I mean, they are only rumors but I’ve not heard anything disproving them… ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-stupid-rumors-about-springfield-haitians/1007210/77 "2024-09-13T22:46:50Z")
He’s been a known racist for decades, so if he had any outside help it was just in making specific suggestions as to what lie to tell. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-stupid-rumors-about-springfield-haitians/1007210/78 "2024-09-13T22:52:27Z")
Trump wants to strongly deport the Haitians from Springfield and send them to … Venezuela. > ---
**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-stupid-rumors-about-springfield-haitians/1007210/79 "2024-09-13T22:54:43Z")
If Trump gets reelected, then legal immigrants and even citizens better be very damn worried about getting deported. The “law” will be quite irrelevant. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-stupid-rumors-about-springfield-haitians/1007210/80 "2024-09-13T22:55:50Z")
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