# The stupid rumors about Springfield Haitians

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 13, 2024, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-stupid-rumors-about-springfield-haitians/1007210 "2024-09-13T04:48:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-stupid-rumors-about-springfield-haitians/1007210/81 "2024-09-13T23:02:38Z")

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I totally agree with the previous two posts.

Those MAGAs who love him so much will be in line with the rest of us. Wearing a red hat won’t help you.  
These people find more and more groups to turn against, just cause they can.

Personally if this happens I’m forming a resistance group.

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**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-stupid-rumors-about-springfield-haitians/1007210/82 "2024-09-13T23:11:20Z")

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Lol, you ain’t gonna do a goddamn thing.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-stupid-rumors-about-springfield-haitians/1007210/83 "2024-09-13T23:32:52Z")

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With Trump’s interminable and unalloyed racist dog whistles, I think we’d know by now if there was any truth to this horrid trope.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-stupid-rumors-about-springfield-haitians/1007210/84 "2024-09-14T00:15:02Z")

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> [@aurora\_maire](#):
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> Trump wants to strongly deport the Haitians from Springfield and send them to … Venezuela.

Eh, it’s the responsible thing to do when you have immigrants you don’t want, just dump them in some random place. That’s what Republican governors in the south have done.

(By “random place”, I mean a place that’s run by people you don’t like.)

They’re brown-skinned so not actually people, and therefore there is nothing morally wrong with any of this.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-stupid-rumors-about-springfield-haitians/1007210/85 "2024-09-14T00:24:42Z")

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> [@Chingon](#):
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> If Trump gets reelected, then legal immigrants and even citizens better be very damn worried about getting deported.

You mean, legal immigrants and citizens of a certain color.  
[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/SASUEbuCnzA/hq720.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEhCK4FEIIDSFryq4qpAxMIARUAAAAAGAElAADIQj0AgKJD&rs=AOn4CLCbrbqCbzgQukjH5_FW843Tv1xBqg) ](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/SASUEbuCnzA/hq720.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEhCK4FEIIDSFryq4qpAxMIARUAAAAAGAElAADIQj0AgKJD&rs=AOn4CLCbrbqCbzgQukjH5_FW843Tv1xBqg)

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-stupid-rumors-about-springfield-haitians/1007210/86 "2024-09-14T00:30:43Z")

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Yeah well, you just hide and watch.

You have no idea my situation. Unless you follow my threads and posts.

God forbid you’re doing _that_!

Since I don’t meet your standards, for some odd reason.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-stupid-rumors-about-springfield-haitians/1007210/87 "2024-09-14T00:34:44Z")

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It’s possible that there is a kernel of truth to the idea that America is overrun with deranged cat killers:

[![](https://mediaproxy.snopes.com/width/1200/https://media.snopes.com/2015/12/trumps-son-tiger-kill.png) ](https://mediaproxy.snopes.com/width/1200/https://media.snopes.com/2015/12/trumps-son-tiger-kill.png)

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-stupid-rumors-about-springfield-haitians/1007210/88 "2024-09-14T00:49:07Z")

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That photo made me sad.  
Catlady here.

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**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-stupid-rumors-about-springfield-haitians/1007210/89 "2024-09-14T00:49:10Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> The real problem is, there are real problems in Springfield, because you get those sorts of problems any time an existing community sees a sudden influx of new people, no matter who those new people are. You could have 20,000 white rural Republicans move there over the course of 4 or 5 years, and housing costs would still climb, school attendance would still increase, and city and state services would still lag trying to keep up with these changes.

So, O.K., like the Haitians need to come to America but some people are all, “What about the sprain on our resources?” And it’s like, when I had this garden party for my father’s birthday and it’s all catered, you know, I said “R.S.V.P.” because it’s a sit down dinner. O.K.? People come that like, didn’t R.S.V.P.! And I’m buggin’. I have to haul ass to the kitchen, re-distribute the food and like squish in extra place-settings and people are on mismatched chairs and all. But by the end of the day it was like “the more, the merrier”. And so if the government could just get to the kitchen and re-arrange some things we could certainly party with Haitians. And in conclusion, may I remind you that it doesn’t say “R.S.V.P.” on the Statue of Liberty.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-stupid-rumors-about-springfield-haitians/1007210/90 "2024-09-14T00:56:21Z")

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> [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](#):
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> So, O.K., like the Haitians need to come to America but some people are all, “What about the sprain on our resources?” And it’s like, when I had this garden party for my father’s birthday and it’s all catered, you know, I said “R.S.V.P.” because it’s a sit down dinner. O.K.? People come that like, didn’t R.S.V.P.! And I’m buggin’. I have to haul ass to the kitchen, re-distribute the food and like squish in extra place-settings and people are on mismatched chairs and all. But by the end of the day it was like “the more, the merrier”. And so if the government could just get to the kitchen and re-arrange some things we could certainly party with Haitians. And in conclusion, may I remind you that it doesn’t say “R.S.V.P.” on the Statue of Liberty.

Bravo! Bravo!

👏 👏 👏 👏

![](https://media.tenor.com/7l-Dwacd2zYAAAAM/alicia-silverstone-curtsy.gif)

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-stupid-rumors-about-springfield-haitians/1007210/91 "2024-09-14T01:05:42Z")

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I want to add too, that I heard someone on an NPR show today (I listened to a lot of NPR, I spent over 4 hours on the road for work today, ugh) that opined that as batshit crazy as the “eating cats and dogs” slur is, that it actually works for Trump.

Her reasoning was that it gets him attention, all the memes and everything are keeping him in the spotlight, and even though that will turn off some voters who are offended, it is still a net gain.

I think the lady was full of shit, personally (and she did not give the impression of being a Trump supporter, she seemed horrified by the whole thing) but honestly I don’t think Trump needs more attention. He’s the nominee for POTUS for one of the two major parties and the election is a couple of months away. Both he and Harris will be in the spotlight constantly no matter what they do. Saying something stupid, clearly bullshit, and an extremely bad racial slur is not good for him. It’ll fire up a few alt right folks but even some conservatives are being turned off, let alone folks toward the middle of the spectrum.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-stupid-rumors-about-springfield-haitians/1007210/92 "2024-09-14T01:09:04Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Her reasoning was that it gets him attention

So did the kid who ate bugs on the playground at recess.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-stupid-rumors-about-springfield-haitians/1007210/93 "2024-09-14T01:09:39Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> So did the kid who ate bugs on the playground at recess.

Wait, now they’re eating dogs, cats, _and_ bugs?!

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-stupid-rumors-about-springfield-haitians/1007210/94 "2024-09-14T01:20:23Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> …
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> These people find more and more groups to turn against, just cause they can.
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> …

Not just can — have to. The constant “other” is taught in Totalitarianism 101:

> The face will always be there to be stamped upon. The heretic, the enemy of society, will always be there, so that he can be defeated and humiliated over again. Everything that you have undergone since you have been in our hands — all that will continue, and worse. The espionage, the betrayals, the arrests, the tortures, the executions, the disappearances will never cease. It will be a world of terror as much as a world of triumph. The more the Party is powerful, the less it will be tolerant: the weaker the opposition, the tighter the despotism. Goldstein and his heresies will live for ever. Every day, at every moment, they will be defeated, discredited, ridiculed, spat upon and yet they will always survive.

Sometimes I wish Mr Eric Blair hadn’t been so [checks forum] fucking prescient.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-stupid-rumors-about-springfield-haitians/1007210/95 "2024-09-14T01:38:01Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Wait, now they’re eating dogs, cats, _and_ bugs?!

Sorry to be _That Guy,_ but wasn’t bugs a bunny?

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-stupid-rumors-about-springfield-haitians/1007210/96 "2024-09-14T02:13:23Z")

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That cwazy wabbit.

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**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-stupid-rumors-about-springfield-haitians/1007210/97 "2024-09-14T02:30:58Z")

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Me too.

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-stupid-rumors-about-springfield-haitians/1007210/98 "2024-09-14T02:33:23Z")

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I can’t figure out which thread to put this in, but it’s too good not to share. Plus he’s donating all proceeds to spca. I promise it’s good.

> <https://x.com/eyeslasho/status/1834618663086788782>

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-stupid-rumors-about-springfield-haitians/1007210/99 "2024-09-14T02:42:32Z")

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@griffin: Funny you mention Nazis. Turns out, this was started by one. As in, one with the hand tattoos and everything. Anthony Harris, a member of the neo-Nazi group “Blood Tribe” appeared at a Springfield council meeting claiming Haitians were killing ducks at the park.

And did you know that school got cancelled, and that Haitians are hiding in their homes? Because of the racist rioting.

As much as I approve of making fun of how stupid they’re being (because that works better on fascists than outrage), this is actively causing problems. I had hoped Trump saying it and being laughed at even by children would have helped extinguish this.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-stupid-rumors-about-springfield-haitians/1007210/100 "2024-09-14T02:47:24Z")

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And of course, the woman responsible for the Facebook post now says she has no firsthand knowledge of anyone’s pets being eaten and regrets posting it.

> **['It just exploded': Springfield woman claims she never meant to spark false...](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/-just-exploded-springfield-woman-says-never-meant-spark-rumors-haitian-rcna171099)**
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> The woman behind an early Facebook post that helped spark baseless rumors about Haitians eating pets told NBC News that she feels for the immigrant community.

Congratulations, you colossal fuckheads! You terrorized an American city and propagated a racist blood libel based on a thirdhand lie. Hope it was worth it!

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