# The superignorant

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-superignorant/704885>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 17, 2014, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-superignorant/704885 "2014-11-17T19:48:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2014, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-superignorant/704885/21 "2014-11-18T03:23:16Z")

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[Krieger?](http://i.imgur.com/AxTsZJB.jpg)

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2014, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-superignorant/704885/22 "2014-11-18T03:44:53Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> [Krieger?](http://i.imgur.com/AxTsZJB.jpg)

He invented doors!

CMC fnord!

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2014, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-superignorant/704885/23 "2014-11-18T04:31:47Z")

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> [@marshmallow](#):
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> I can’t remember the fancy terms, but there are related psychological effects that are big allies of ignorance. If you’re confronted with information that contradicts deeply held beliefs you’re more liable to double down on the original belief than reject it. If people hear that something isn’t true, later they will conflate it with the truth.

Heck, my favourite example on this board, just because it’s so ridiculous and has a personal resonance for me, was ElvisL!ves’s casual claim that the 9/11 perps were safely based in Montreal. It didn’t matter in the least how much counter-evidence was brought to bear, his response was to call Canadians “smug”, and as I recall, _his_ evidence was that two people peripheral to the hijacking had briefly lived in Montreal, though they’d left well before the attacks.

I remember at the time there were rumours that the hijackers had entered the U.S. from Canada, but I thought those had been thoroughly debunked.

Not everyone got the message.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2014, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-superignorant/704885/24 "2014-11-18T05:48:14Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> This is the point at which some know-it-all will refer to the _Dunning-Kruger effect_, so I will:

Hey, you don’t have to tell _me_ about it. When it comes to Dunning-Kruger, I am the man! I am more Dunning-Kruger than any of the rest of you put together.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2014, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-superignorant/704885/25 "2014-11-18T07:32:15Z")

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> [@Tom\_Tildrum](#):
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> Hey, you don’t have to tell _me_ about it. When it comes to Dunning-Kruger, I am the man! I am more Dunning-Kruger than any of the rest of you put together.

You’re no match for the new meat, EdwinAmi in the _Is Global Warming Falsifiable_ thread in GD. That moron is radiating D-K at Magiver\* levels.

\*Magiver demanded that the response to Benghazi should have been to drop unbriefed special forces on motorcycles into the city. He still thinks that for all I know. He also argued against the laws of physics for days, in the _punch a monkey_ thread.

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**Author:** ![Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/46a35a/32.png) [@Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_T-Bonham.net)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2014, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-superignorant/704885/26 "2014-11-18T07:46:55Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> It’s a sad state of humanity when the smartest, coolest, hippest and smartest people on the internet are dumb.

Luckily, we have others on this board who try to avoid dumb statements, by performing actual experiments with cardboard toilet paper tubes before making posts here. Scientific experiments banish dumbness!

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2014, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-superignorant/704885/27 "2014-11-18T09:54:04Z")

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Shoutouts to **EdwinAmi** for egregious examples of exactly this phenomenon. Like, super-egregious.

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**Author:** ![Steken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@Steken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steken)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2014, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-superignorant/704885/28 "2014-11-18T16:29:23Z")

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I miss the guy who disproved the Holocaust by BBQ’ing chickens in his backyard.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2014, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-superignorant/704885/29 "2014-11-18T17:06:13Z")

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I kind of miss the proof of a government 9/11 conspiracy by using matchsticks and metal washers.

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**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2014, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-superignorant/704885/30 "2014-11-18T17:19:37Z")

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> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#):
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> If your so smart maybe you can explain why their still monkeys if evolution is true. Lol nobody here can ever seem to that.

Excellent reply.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2014, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-superignorant/704885/31 "2014-11-18T17:19:47Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> Shoutouts to **EdwinAmi** for egregious examples of exactly this phenomenon. Like, super-egregious.

The guy argues pretty well, and seems smart enough, but his refusal to provide cites for his assertions render his arguments moot. Or perhaps he’s just another troll trying stir the shit, brah.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2014, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-superignorant/704885/32 "2014-11-18T17:21:25Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> The guy argues pretty well

I know. I gotta try that “nuh uh, neener, neener” move myself.

Pretty easy to argue well when you pull numbers and strawmen out your ass. That thing’s gotta be sore as hell by now.

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**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2014, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-superignorant/704885/33 "2014-11-18T17:27:20Z")

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I missed that one. Linky? And was a recipe included?

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**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2014, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-superignorant/704885/34 "2014-11-18T17:27:36Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> But, enough about the human caused climate change deniers in GD… 🙂

I try to stay out of those threads, gotta think of my blood pressure as I creep up on 40. My inspiration was more along the lines of “How often can you pee without your urethra starting to leak?” (edited for comprehension) and “I thought guns like these were impossible, why aren’t they impossible, if they were real they’d be too heavy and have too large recoil, no I didn’t actually learn anything from the many replies in this thread, why do you ask?” But I’d hate to start naming names.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2014, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-superignorant/704885/35 "2014-11-18T17:36:49Z")

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> [@purplehorseshoe](#):
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> I missed that one. Linky? And was a recipe included?

Yeah, kind of. Here’s a [link](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16698177&postcount=625) to the post (user banned and thread closed), where he describes his “experiment”.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2014, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-superignorant/704885/36 "2014-11-18T17:54:16Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> I know. I gotta try that “nuh uh, neener, neener” move myself.
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> Pretty easy to argue well when you pull numbers and strawmen out your ass. That thing’s gotta be sore as hell by now.

Pretty sure he’s not Hawaiian, either, despite all the “brah” nonsense.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2014, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-superignorant/704885/37 "2014-11-18T18:00:56Z")

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> [@naita](#):
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> I try to stay out of those threads, gotta think of my blood pressure as I creep up on 40. My inspiration was more along the lines of “How often can you pee without your urethra starting to leak?” (edited for comprehension) and “I thought guns like these were impossible, why aren’t they impossible, if they were real they’d be too heavy and have too large recoil, no I didn’t actually learn anything from the many replies in this thread, why do you ask?” But I’d hate to start naming names.

That’s all right. We all know who you’re talking about. 😉

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**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2014, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-superignorant/704885/38 "2014-11-18T18:19:14Z")

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In America we confine the “super-ignorant” to an institution. Unfortunately that institution is Congress.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2014, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-superignorant/704885/39 "2014-11-18T20:55:38Z")

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> [@Steken](#):
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> I miss the guy who disproved the Holocaust by BBQ’ing chickens in his backyard.

I’d _like_ to miss the guy who disproved kiddie rape by fucking a toilet paper tube as a _gedankeneksperiment_, but he’s still around, sadly.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2014, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-superignorant/704885/40 "2014-11-18T21:51:56Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> If we evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys.

Simple answer, they took a good look at it and felt monkey was the better choice.  
But then, it’s rumored that all they saw when they looked at it were Republicans.

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