# The Supreme Court isn't done: Watch and see a lot of individual rights fall **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** roe\_vs\_wade\_abortion\ **Created:** [June 25, 2022, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-supreme-court-isnt-done-watch-and-see-a-lot-of-individual-rights-fall/966843 "2022-06-25T15:08:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-supreme-court-isnt-done-watch-and-see-a-lot-of-individual-rights-fall/966843/281 "2023-04-04T02:51:14Z")
Yeah, I don’t see the point that Overreacting Guy in that comic is apparently trying to make. Over-Credulous Guy is correct that it’s possible to infer something meaningful about current social conditions from the kinds of false claims that are widely believed to be true, as well as from the claims that actually are true. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2023, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-supreme-court-isnt-done-watch-and-see-a-lot-of-individual-rights-fall/966843/282 "2023-04-11T15:10:31Z")
Just to move back into the biased, activist, judges realm, Judge Kacsmaryk, a Trump appointee, (to absolutely no-one’s surprise) has decided to do away with judicial restraint, judicial deference, standing (I can almost hear the far off wails of our dearly departed Bricker), and decades of precedent interpreting the Comstock Act, to ban FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTRY, the FDA’s medical approval of mifepristone. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2023, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-supreme-court-isnt-done-watch-and-see-a-lot-of-individual-rights-fall/966843/283 "2023-04-11T15:32:16Z")
Already a thread on it: > [@Texas Federal Judge strikes down FDA approval of the abortion pill (competing lawsuit filed, outcome uncertain)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/texas-federal-judge-strikes-down-fda-approval-of-the-abortion-pill/982351): > > Just released about an hour ago, and I don’t see any thread on it? The judge hled that the EPA made a mistake 23 years ago and shouldn’t have approved mifepristone as safe for medical abortions. Same judge who struck down parts of Affordable Care Act several years ago. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2024, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-supreme-court-isnt-done-watch-and-see-a-lot-of-individual-rights-fall/966843/284 "2024-10-24T13:11:07Z")
Bumped. Just in case: > **[Prepping For The Supreme Court To Overturn Obergefell - Above the Law](https://abovethelaw.com/2024/10/prepping-for-the-supreme-court-to-overturn-obergefell/)** > > Conservatives are coming for same-sex marriage. These states want to be ready. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-supreme-court-isnt-done-watch-and-see-a-lot-of-individual-rights-fall/966843/285 "2025-11-10T17:07:01Z")
Bumped again. Some good news from SCOTUS: > **[Supreme Court declines to revisit landmark same-sex marriage precedent | CNN...](https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/10/politics/supreme-court-same-sex-marriage-obergefell-kim-davis)** > > The Supreme Court on Monday declined an opportunity to overturn its landmark precedent recognizing a constitutional right to same-sex marriage, tossing aside an appeal that had roiled LGBTQ advocates who feared the conservative court might be ready... ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-supreme-court-isnt-done-watch-and-see-a-lot-of-individual-rights-fall/966843/286 "2025-11-10T17:21:31Z")
> [@Toxgoddess](#): > > Are there not a whole host of laws allowing free travel between states? The right to travel (the real on, not the SovCit version) is enshrined in Article IV, Section 2 and the 14th Amendment, Section 1 as a privilege and immunity guarantied to a citizen of the United States. The question you are posing is: If X is illegal in my state but legal in State Y, can my state punish me for traveling to Y to do X. I think that is an interesting question. The Feds make it illegal to participate in activities in countries where those activities are legal there but illegal in the United States. Can states apply the same legal principles or does that violate the right to travel? It does not. Under the landmark case _Saenz v. Roe_ SCOTUS defined the right to travel as > The right to travel embraces three different components: the right to enter and leave another State; the right to be treated as a welcome visitor while temporarily present in another State; and, for those travelers who elect to become permanent residents, the right to be treated like other citizens of that State. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-supreme-court-isnt-done-watch-and-see-a-lot-of-individual-rights-fall/966843/287 "2025-11-10T22:38:46Z")
So how do laws like Texas’s not violate “the right to enter and leave another State”? ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-supreme-court-isnt-done-watch-and-see-a-lot-of-individual-rights-fall/966843/288 "2025-11-11T01:50:38Z")
Which laws? ---
**Author:** ![doreen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/858c86/32.png) [@doreen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doreen)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-supreme-court-isnt-done-watch-and-see-a-lot-of-individual-rights-fall/966843/289 "2025-11-11T02:55:08Z")
I haven’t heard about Texas attempting to prohibit leaving the state for an abortion. There are some localities that are trying to prohibit traveling on their roads for the purpose of obtaining an abortion , but that has nothing to do with leaving the state. There is a Texas law prohibiting mailing abortion pills into Texas - but that has nothing to do with either travel or the person receiving the pills. Texas is currently trying to get a judgement enforced against a doctor in NY. The doctor mailed pills from NY to someone in Texas, the Texas AG won a default judgment in a Texas court and the NY court is prohibited from enforcing it under NY law. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2025, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-supreme-court-isnt-done-watch-and-see-a-lot-of-individual-rights-fall/966843/290 "2025-11-15T19:51:48Z")
Not the result I expected, to be honest. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2025, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-supreme-court-isnt-done-watch-and-see-a-lot-of-individual-rights-fall/966843/291 "2025-11-15T19:56:45Z")
> [@doreen](#): > > I haven’t heard about Texas attempting to prohibit leaving the state for an abortion. It is not illegal to leave Texas to have an abortion but Texas has been dancing close to something like that: - [Interstate travel becomes a target for the anti-abortion movement with Texas filing](https://www.npr.org/2024/05/17/1252218618/interstate-travel-becomes-a-target-for-the-anti-abortion-movement-with-texas-fil) > Signaling a new tactic by anti-abortion groups, a Texas man has taken legal action against his ex-girlfriend over her alleged out-of-state abortion. Texas has a strict abortion ban. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2025, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-supreme-court-isnt-done-watch-and-see-a-lot-of-individual-rights-fall/966843/292 "2025-11-25T16:46:12Z")
Gosh, I wonder why she’s his ex-girlfriend. I wonder if there is any action she can take against him. Probably not in TX. But this is just another horrific right wing, supposedly Christion hipocrazy (yes the ‘z’ is deliberate). ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2025, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-supreme-court-isnt-done-watch-and-see-a-lot-of-individual-rights-fall/966843/293 "2025-12-03T19:43:16Z")
Curiously, Thomas has not suggested reopening Loving vs. Virginia. Wonder why? It used the same reasoning as the others. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-supreme-court-isnt-done-watch-and-see-a-lot-of-individual-rights-fall/966843.md?page=14)