# The Supreme Court Nominee: Brett Kavanaugh shares certain tastes with Trump. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 16, 2018, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-supreme-court-nominee-brett-kavanaugh-shares-certain-tastes-with-trump/821459 "2018-09-16T20:28:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-supreme-court-nominee-brett-kavanaugh-shares-certain-tastes-with-trump/821459/61 "2018-09-24T01:42:20Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > It feels so yucky to live in a country where an alleged rapist president names an alleged rapist judge to the highest court. > > [https://twitter.com/pdacosta/status/1042378675273064448?s=19](https://twitter.com/pdacosta/status/1042378675273064448?s=19) I know, right? The default Trumpist Republican positions (can’t think of a better word) are 1) We’re entitled to take what we want and we’re mean enough to do it; and 2) The ends always justifies the means. Understanding this makes their choices far more predictable. I suspect this second shoe dropping will be the predicate event for Republicans to withdraw Kavanaugh’s nomination, accompanied by butt-hurt howling about how victimized they have been, how the Deep State™ has won another round and yada yada yada. The next nominee – which will be rammed through during the lame duck session after the mid-terms at the latest – will be even worse. I predict it will be a woman. Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski will pretend she isn’t actually anti-choice because “settled law.” Jeff Flake, Bob Corker and Ben Sasse will fatuously congratulate their colleagues on their “compromise” woman candidate. And irony of ironies, John Roberts becomes the “swing” vote on his own shitty court. Possibly the last justice who will give two damns about its legacy which, if the quality of the nominees is any indication, is going to be a very piss poor one. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-supreme-court-nominee-brett-kavanaugh-shares-certain-tastes-with-trump/821459/62 "2018-09-24T01:44:23Z")
So it looks like a second accuser has stepped up, and there may be a THIRD one. ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-supreme-court-nominee-brett-kavanaugh-shares-certain-tastes-with-trump/821459/63 "2018-09-24T01:49:04Z")
On the plus side, the Trumpist Republicans are pissing off _huge_ hunks of the electorate, making them that much more likely to vote. At the same time, more moderate Republicans are looking at this show, and it’s probably peeling off some of them as voters - either they’ll hold their noses and vote Democrat, or they won’t vote at all. * * * Another thought - does it seem to anyone else lately how bizarre it is, that Republicans have been acting like the worst leftist caricature of the greedy, cruel, mysoginistic bully, in real life. I mean, this show, diverting funds from children’s cancer treatment to detaining children\*…. it’s unreal. \*Yep, this administration is literally stealing money from sick kids to fund kidnapping other kids. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-supreme-court-nominee-brett-kavanaugh-shares-certain-tastes-with-trump/821459/64 "2018-09-24T01:49:15Z")
Looks like the Kavanaugh “train” just went off the rails… ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-supreme-court-nominee-brett-kavanaugh-shares-certain-tastes-with-trump/821459/65 "2018-09-24T01:54:24Z")
Yup. Comes as no surprise. What also comes as no surprise is that it appears Republicans on the committee were aware of these other cases, and their response was to try and hasten the Ford testimony so they could… eehhhrrrrmmmm… ram the nomination through. Pity. I was kind of hoping they’d succeed, so we could have the Supreme Court seat back once Kavanaugh had been impeached by all this evidence, revealed once Dems control the House and Senate. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-supreme-court-nominee-brett-kavanaugh-shares-certain-tastes-with-trump/821459/66 "2018-09-24T02:37:24Z")
> [@johnt](#): > > [https://twitter.com/michaelavenatti/status/1044032678951960576?s=19](https://twitter.com/michaelavenatti/status/1044032678951960576?s=19) > > i wish i could extract text, but here is the relevant part of the attachment in the above link: > > “we are aware of multiple house parties in the washington dc area during the early 1980s during which brett kavanaugh, mark judge, and others would engage in the targeting of women with alcohol/drugs in order to allow a “train” of men to subsequently gang-rape them. There are multiple witnesses who will corroborate these facts and they must be called upon to testify.” > > … Sent in an email to mike davis, chief counsel for nominations, us senate committee on the judiciary, on behalf of chairman chuck grassley. what!!? > [@galen\_ubal](#): > > another thought - does it seem to anyone else lately how bizarre it is, that republicans have been acting like the worst leftist caricature of the greedy, cruel, mysoginistic bully, in real life. I mean, this show, diverting funds from children’s cancer treatment to detaining children\*…. It’s unreal. > > \*yep, this administration is literally stealing money from sick kids to fund kidnapping other kids. what!!?! ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-supreme-court-nominee-brett-kavanaugh-shares-certain-tastes-with-trump/821459/67 "2018-09-24T02:39:13Z")
Here’s what happened today: @RonanFarrow & @JaneMayerNYer: This will seal the deal on #Kavanaugh! @MichaelAvenatti: Hold my beer. ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-supreme-court-nominee-brett-kavanaugh-shares-certain-tastes-with-trump/821459/68 "2018-09-24T02:43:36Z")
> [@galen\_ubal](#): > > Another thought - does it seem to anyone else lately how bizarre it is, that Republicans have been acting like the worst leftist caricature of the greedy, cruel, mysoginistic bully, in real life. I mean, this show, diverting funds from children’s cancer treatment to detaining children\*…. it’s unreal. > > \*Yep, this administration is literally stealing money from sick kids to fund kidnapping other kids. > [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > what!!? > what!!?! [Exclusive: With more immigrant children in detention, HHS cuts funds for other programs — like cancer research](https://www.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-immigrant-children-detention-hhs-cuts-funds-programs-like-cancer-research-230259583.html) > [@](#): > > In a letter sent to Sen. Patty Murray, D.-Wash., and obtained by Yahoo News, HHS Secretary Alex Azar outlined his plan to reallocate up to $266 million in funding for the current fiscal year, which ends on Sept. 30, to the Unaccompanied Alien Children (UAC) program in the Office of Refugee Resettlement (ORR). > Nearly $80 million of that money will come from other refugee support programs within ORR, which have seen their needs significantly diminished as the Trump administration makes drastic cuts to the annual refugee numbers. The rest is being taken from other programs, including $16.7 million from Head Start, $5.7 million from the Ryan White HIV/AIDS program and $13.3 million from the National Cancer Institute. Money is also being diverted from programs dedicated to mental and maternal health, women’s shelters and substance abuse. I recall the cancer kids from my Twitter feed, but I can’t find it again. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-supreme-court-nominee-brett-kavanaugh-shares-certain-tastes-with-trump/821459/69 "2018-09-24T04:45:14Z")
On the road to authoritarianism, try not to lose your sense of outrage. Paul Krugman, 9/21: A thought: the Kavanaugh mess has structural roots. Rs needed someone who was both ideologically reliable and at no risk of developing a conscience when it came to defending Trump against rule of law. So it had to be a bad person, which meant good odds of nasty stuff surfacing [https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/status/1043199669688512513](https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/status/1043199669688512513) I’m reminded of the sort of threats that Cohen made to those who crossed Trump: [INDENT]“I’m warning you, tread very fucking lightly, because what I’m going to do to you is going to be fucking disgusting. You understand me?” [/INDENT] Dr. Ford knew what she’s was getting into when she wrote her Senator. The country owes her our thanks. > [@Aspenglow](#): > > The next nominee – which will be rammed through during the lame duck session after the mid-terms at the latest – will be even worse. I predict it will be a woman. Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski will pretend she isn’t actually anti-choice because “settled law.” Jeff Flake, Bob Corker and Ben Sasse will fatuously congratulate their colleagues on their “compromise” woman candidate. I’m guessing the nominee will be closer to Scalia than Kavanaugh would be. But worse? I’m guessing not. Because Kavanaugh appears to be fucking disgusting. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-supreme-court-nominee-brett-kavanaugh-shares-certain-tastes-with-trump/821459/70 "2018-09-24T05:51:18Z")
> [@galen\_ubal](#): > > [Exclusive: With more immigrant children in detention, HHS cuts funds for other programs — like cancer research](https://www.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-immigrant-children-detention-hhs-cuts-funds-programs-like-cancer-research-230259583.html) > > I recall the cancer kids from my Twitter feed, but I can’t find it again. It was in your list. I expect it was part of the funding that was diverted from cancer research. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-supreme-court-nominee-brett-kavanaugh-shares-certain-tastes-with-trump/821459/71 "2018-09-24T06:01:29Z")
I just had the realization that the schadenfreude I was feeling meant that 3 women, and likely many more, had terrible things happen to them. Fuck Kavanaugh. I hope law enforcement does investigate after all of this comes out. If the reports are accurate, he belongs in jail and not on the bench. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-supreme-court-nominee-brett-kavanaugh-shares-certain-tastes-with-trump/821459/72 "2018-09-24T14:01:53Z")
It’s Infrastructure Week! Everyone get out your popcorn. (I made this joke last night to a friend and neither of us could recall which of the many scandals made this a joke in the first place. That’s how fucked up all this is.) ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-supreme-court-nominee-brett-kavanaugh-shares-certain-tastes-with-trump/821459/73 "2018-09-24T15:38:37Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > So it looks like a second accuser has stepped up, and there may be a THIRD one. _Vox_: [”A second woman comes forward with sexual misconduct allegations against Brett Kavanaugh”](https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/9/24/17895740/new-yorker-jane-mayer-yale-university-emails-brett-kavanaugh-deborah-ramirez) _Vox_: [”The first source of the New Yorker bombshell wasn’t Deborah Ramirez. It was Yale alumni.”](https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/9/24/17895740/new-yorker-jane-mayer-yale-university-emails-brett-kavanaugh-deborah-ramirez) and _Vox_: [“Brett Kavanaugh’s habit of dissembling makes it hard to take his word over Ford’s”](https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/9/24/17893134/brett-kavanaugh-sexual-assault-allegation-dishonest) I’d say, “Buh-bye, asswipe” but unless Kavanaugh withdraws or it is clear he can’t get fifty votes in the Senate I bet the nomination still goes up to a vote. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-supreme-court-nominee-brett-kavanaugh-shares-certain-tastes-with-trump/821459/74 "2018-09-24T17:33:02Z")
After the latest allegation (of facilitating gang rape) I fully expect that someone will reveal that Kavanaugh was involved in Satanic ritual abuse. He better be prepared to prove it never happened. ---
**Author:** ![3trew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/13edae/32.png) [@3trew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/3trew)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-supreme-court-nominee-brett-kavanaugh-shares-certain-tastes-with-trump/821459/75 "2018-09-24T17:47:16Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > After the latest allegation (of facilitating gang rape) I fully expect that someone will reveal that Kavanaugh was involved in Satanic ritual abuse. > > He better be prepared to prove it never happened. He probably has a letter of support written by 65 Satanic Ritual Abusers he’s never met. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-supreme-court-nominee-brett-kavanaugh-shares-certain-tastes-with-trump/821459/76 "2018-09-24T18:26:57Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > After the latest allegation (of facilitating gang rape) I fully expect that someone will reveal that Kavanaugh was involved in Satanic ritual abuse. > > He better be prepared to prove it never happened. Only if they’re _credible_ accusations of ritual Satanic abuse. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-supreme-court-nominee-brett-kavanaugh-shares-certain-tastes-with-trump/821459/77 "2018-09-24T19:04:16Z")
GOP women are getting quite mixed messages about this. > [@Erick Erickson](#): > > I gotta think there are a lot of suburban mothers horrified that one day their innocent son could be accused and presumed guilty of false claims. [https://twitter.com/EWErickson/status/1044046573955633153?ref\_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1044046573955633153&ref\_url=https%3A%2F%2Fforumserver.twoplustwo.com%2F41%2Fpolitics%2Fbrett-kavanaugh-interest-amp-discussion-1721968%2Findex80.html](https://twitter.com/EWErickson/status/1044046573955633153?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1044046573955633153&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fforumserver.twoplustwo.com%2F41%2Fpolitics%2Fbrett-kavanaugh-interest-amp-discussion-1721968%2Findex80.html) But then: > [@Gina Sosa](#): > > “I mean, we’re talking about a 15-year-old girl, which I respect. I’m a woman. I respect. But we’re talking about a 17-year-old boy in high school with testosterone running high. Tell me, what boy hasn’t done this in high school?” [https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/407927-gop-women-issue-strong-defense-of-kavanaugh?amp&\_\_twitter\_impression=true](https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/407927-gop-women-issue-strong-defense-of-kavanaugh?amp&__twitter_impression=true) So which is it? Poor, innocent boys or boys will be boys? ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-supreme-court-nominee-brett-kavanaugh-shares-certain-tastes-with-trump/821459/78 "2018-09-24T19:10:03Z")
How could someone say something like that with a straight face? Friggin’ ridiculous. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-supreme-court-nominee-brett-kavanaugh-shares-certain-tastes-with-trump/821459/79 "2018-09-24T19:26:10Z")
Russian bots are big supporters of Kavanaugh #ConfirmKavanaughNow they tweet. [https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/1043660322941423617](https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/1043660322941423617) * * * Here’s something else to watch. “The Biggest Divides On The Kavanaugh Allegations Are By Party — Not Gender” [INDENT] Maybe that’s not too surprising when it comes to Ford’s allegation that Kavanaugh sexually assaulted her when both were in high school. A HuffPost/YouGov poll released last week found that 34 percent of men did not find Ford’s allegation credible, compared with 23 percent of women. Yet 60 percent of Republicans did not think her allegation was credible, compared with 8 percent of Democrats. [/INDENT] I presume that poll was done before other witnesses came forward about Kavanaugh’s various alleged assaults. Rough numbers: Figure 1 in 3 women have suffered something like this. That’s 1/6 of the electorate. Half are Republican or Republican leaning, so that makes 1/12. So we’re discussing a maximum 8.3% swing, in practice much lower. Of course others can also be angry or sickened, but that group trends Democratic. At any rate, Kavanaugh’s support among Republicans won’t necessarily shift dramatically with the latest developments, though I believe the needle will move. > **[The Biggest Divides On The Kavanaugh Allegations Are By Party — Not Gender](https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-biggest-divides-on-the-kavanaugh-allegations-are-by-party-not-gender/)** > > Americans are deeply divided in how they view accusations of sexual assault, sexual harassment and other kinds of sexual misconduct. They’re divided on broader … ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2018, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-supreme-court-nominee-brett-kavanaugh-shares-certain-tastes-with-trump/821459/80 "2018-09-24T19:59:58Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > After the latest allegation (of facilitating gang rape) I fully expect that someone will reveal that Kavanaugh was involved in Satanic ritual abuse. > > He better be prepared to prove it never happened. Why bother? His confirmation is in the bag. Whatever comes up, he’ll be sitting in the Supreme Court in no time. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-supreme-court-nominee-brett-kavanaugh-shares-certain-tastes-with-trump/821459.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-supreme-court-nominee-brett-kavanaugh-shares-certain-tastes-with-trump/821459.md?page=5)