# The sweater vest: the goatee of middle layers

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sweater-vest-the-goatee-of-middle-layers/427378
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share
**Created:** [November 22, 2007, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sweater-vest-the-goatee-of-middle-layers/427378 "2007-11-22T00:33:30Z")
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### Author: ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2007, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sweater-vest-the-goatee-of-middle-layers/427378/1 "2007-11-22T00:33:30Z")

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Has all the parts you need, without the parts you don’t.

Just an observation. But mundane and pointless, so I thought it was worth a mention.

Carry on.

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### Author: ![aerodave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f08c70/32.png) [@aerodave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aerodave)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2007, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sweater-vest-the-goatee-of-middle-layers/427378/2 "2007-11-22T02:19:02Z")

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I’d say it’s the opposite of that…

Never have my arms been hot, but my torso freezing.

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### Author: ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2007, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sweater-vest-the-goatee-of-middle-layers/427378/3 "2007-11-22T02:49:15Z")

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So, you would want to market arm warmers? \<pictures two knitted tubes to encircle arms, with no torso–very odd.\>  
I like sweater vests, but own none. I’m a girl.

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### Author: ![Waenara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/50afbb/32.png) [@Waenara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waenara)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2007, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sweater-vest-the-goatee-of-middle-layers/427378/4 "2007-11-22T06:23:34Z")

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[QUOTE=eleanorigby]  
So, you would want to market arm warmers? \<pictures two knitted tubes to encircle arms, with no torso–very odd.\>  
I like sweater vests, but own none. I’m a girl.  
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Actually, [shrugs](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shrug_(clothing)) can be pretty comfortable. I have a couple for when my apartment is a bit cold but I don’t want to wear a sweater - keeps your arms warm.

Here’s a few examples I found:

[![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/27/54688313_bdde01e581_z.jpg "PoA Shrug") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/39549049@N00/54688313/)  
[![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/112/315171407_d17734f8a4_z.jpg "Wool, kid mohair and silk shrug - £20") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/indychick_uk/315171407/)  
[![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/1402/641977221_4c34f6cb7a.jpg "Fitted Knits Shrug - Front View") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/ldebes/641977221/)

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### Author: ![Amblydoper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/fbc32d/32.png) [@Amblydoper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amblydoper)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2007, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sweater-vest-the-goatee-of-middle-layers/427378/5 "2007-11-22T06:37:53Z")

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[QUOTE=eleanorigby]  
I like sweater vests, but own none. I’m a girl.  
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I think girls look good in [sweater vests](http://fabsugar.com/32347).

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### Author: ![Electronic\_Chaos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Electronic\_Chaos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Electronic_Chaos)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2007, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sweater-vest-the-goatee-of-middle-layers/427378/6 "2007-11-22T07:49:01Z")

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[Quote=Demitri Martin]

I think vests are for protection. A bullet proof vest protects you from getting shot. A life vest protects you from drowning. A sweater vest protects you from pretty girls.  
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He’s got a whole set about sweater vests, but I can’t remember them off the top of my head.

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### Author: ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2007, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sweater-vest-the-goatee-of-middle-layers/427378/7 "2007-11-22T14:27:39Z")

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[QUOTE=Electronic Chaos]  
He’s got a whole set about sweater vests, but I can’t remember them off the top of my head.  
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Well sure, if you are trying to rock the [Jim Tressel look](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/47/Ohio_State_Coach_Jim_Tressel_with_his_team.jpg/800px-Ohio_State_Coach_Jim_Tressel_with_his_team.jpg) you might as well spray yourself with girl repellent. But a cool pair of jeans, a clean t-shirt with a sweater vest over it, etc., can work…

And yeah, girls in sweater vests - hmmmmboy. With a newsboy cap and glasses? Hummina hummina.

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### Author: ![Key\_Lime\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/48db29/32.png) [@Key\_Lime\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Key_Lime_Guy)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2007, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sweater-vest-the-goatee-of-middle-layers/427378/8 "2007-11-22T15:26:46Z")

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I wish they made crew-neck sweater vests.

Don’t like the v-neck but it’s the only option as far as I can tell.

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### Author: ![Cluricaun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cluricaun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cluricaun)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2007, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sweater-vest-the-goatee-of-middle-layers/427378/9 "2007-11-22T15:31:09Z")

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[QUOTE=WordMan]  
And yeah, girls in sweater vests - hmmmmboy. With a newsboy cap and glasses? Hummina hummina.  
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I see \*\*WordMan \*\* wants him some Natty Gan ass.

Sweater vests are tricky things. Ferris Bueller looked cool in one, but I don’t think that I can.

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### Author: ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2007, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sweater-vest-the-goatee-of-middle-layers/427378/10 "2007-11-22T16:14:11Z")

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[QUOTE=CoG888]  
I think girls look good in [sweater vests](http://fabsugar.com/32347).  
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Ooh, I like that… And I must confess to having worn sweater vests in my misspent youth. Here is proof:  
[notquiteAnnieHall](http://www.flickr.com/photos/19350879@N07/1975235280/)  
I did like that sweater vest–and I loved wearing the ties. I had several, IMS. I haven’t thought about any of this in 20 years. And I might just get that J Crew vest. Thanks!  
**Waenara** –I was picturing essentially two leg warmers on someone’s arms–not connected at all. Shrugs can be tricky to wear, IMO. But they do look comfy!

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### Author: ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2007, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sweater-vest-the-goatee-of-middle-layers/427378/11 "2007-11-22T16:49:41Z")

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I’ll wear those zip-up sleeveless fleece numbers with the tube collars, but V-neck pullover sweater vests? I think the “V” isn’t to describe it’s pattern; it stands for “vasectomey,” as in “this outfit makes it obvious I’ve had one.”

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### Author: ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2007, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sweater-vest-the-goatee-of-middle-layers/427378/12 "2007-11-22T16:52:22Z")

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[QUOTE=Cluricaun]  
I see \*\*WordMan \*\* wants him some Natty Gan ass.

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Waitaminnit - wasn’t she a kid? Sorry, as my kid would say, that’s not how I ride.

I was thinking more of Elizabeth Hurley in a sweater vest…with her hair up and with black plastic rimmed glasses…I’ll be in my bunk.

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### Author: ![Kuboydal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecb155/32.png) [@Kuboydal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kuboydal)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2007, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sweater-vest-the-goatee-of-middle-layers/427378/13 "2007-11-22T16:53:57Z")

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I’d wear one if I could have stick-on leather elbow patches as belong on a proper cardigan. The babes would be knocking at the door, I tell ya.

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### Author: ![Cluricaun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cluricaun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cluricaun)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2007, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sweater-vest-the-goatee-of-middle-layers/427378/14 "2007-11-22T17:35:00Z")

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[QUOTE=WordMan]  
Waitaminnit - wasn’t she a kid? Sorry, as my kid would say, that’s not how I ride.  
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Right then, some Natty Gan \*style \* ass. My bad. 😃

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### Author: ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2007, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sweater-vest-the-goatee-of-middle-layers/427378/15 "2007-11-22T20:16:25Z")

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[QUOTE=eleanorigby]  
So, you would want to market arm warmers? \<pictures two knitted tubes to encircle arms, with no torso–very odd.\>

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Might look stupid, but it might be comfortable. Many times, I’ve been too warm to put a sweat shirt on, but too cold for just a T-Shrit and found myself sitting at my desk with my arms in the sweatshirt, but not wearing it. Does that make sense? Like if you were about to put it on, you thread your arms though the sleeves, but you stop right before you flip it up and put your head in.  
Then I found the long sleeved Tshirt, I loove those.

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### Author: ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2007, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sweater-vest-the-goatee-of-middle-layers/427378/16 "2007-11-22T21:14:26Z")

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I liek teh vests because I have hairy monkey arms and can’t stand more than a couple pair of sleeves at a time. They also work well under my favorite outer garment, the [Type A-2](http://www.flightsuits.com/images/leather/a2_hist_horse_lg.jpg) flight jacket with knit cuffs and waistband.

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### Author: ![chaoticbear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f07891/32.png) [@chaoticbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chaoticbear)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2007, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sweater-vest-the-goatee-of-middle-layers/427378/17 "2007-11-22T23:00:07Z")

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This thread is timed perfectly, as I just happened to order [this](http://www.oldnavy.com/browse/product.do?cid=17898&pid=548033&scid=548033002) hot number yesterday, and had been jonesing to tell everyone on the internet. I haven’t worn one in YEARS so I’m excited about it coming.

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### Author: ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2007, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-sweater-vest-the-goatee-of-middle-layers/427378/18 "2007-11-22T23:05:10Z")

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[QUOTE=chaoticbear]  
This thread is timed perfectly, as I just happened to order [this](http://www.oldnavy.com/browse/product.do?cid=17898&pid=548033&scid=548033002) hot number yesterday, and had been jonesing to tell everyone on the internet. I haven’t worn one in YEARS so I’m excited about it coming.  
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See? THAT’s what I’m talkin’ about!
