# The Tea Party is not socially conservative my ass

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 11, 2010, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760 "2010-10-11T06:09:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2010, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/261 "2010-10-13T17:47:16Z")

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“Negative, Ghost Rider, the pattern is full.”  
“WHOOSH!”

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2010, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/262 "2010-10-13T17:54:06Z")

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> [@Strassia](#):
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> Everywhere I look the Tea Party candidates are socially conservative.

Sheer coinky-dink.  
Turns out the socially liberal prospects were all too busy tying their shoe laces to run this election cycle.  
But just you wait til nov 2012, Hoo **BOY** , many Shuvs and Zuuls will know what it is to be roasted in the depths of the Slor that day, I can tell you!

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2010, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/263 "2010-10-13T18:25:32Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> And I do try to make it a policy not to insult individual posters unless they’ve insulted me first, so if you want to point to the instance where I insulted you, and if it wasn’t preceeded by an insult of some sort to me, I would be happy to apologize to you for it.

I’m still waiting.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2010, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/264 "2010-10-13T18:51:13Z")

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Don’t hold your breath. He’s a fucking liar and he always will be.

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**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2010, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/265 "2010-10-13T18:51:26Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> And then there’s the fact that the board’s conservative posters, being the believers in individual responsibility that we are, very, very, rarely come to each other’s defense in the first place. We each believe that our brethren can handle their own battles, and we know that that they expect us to do the same. I can’t think of a genuine conservative dog pile against a liberal poster in all the time I’ve been here…or even an attempt at one.

This of course explains why anytime **Bricker** gets pitted, he has to shoulder the burden alone without any other Doper sticking up for him.

Although it doesn’t quite explain how I hallucinated actually participating in threads in which a dozen posters pointed and laughed at **gonzomax**.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2010, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/266 "2010-10-13T19:05:05Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> Don’t hold your breath. He’s a fucking liar and he always will be.

Perhaps. I just want everyone to know that I haven’t walked away from the issue.

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2010, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/267 "2010-10-13T19:13:20Z")

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> [@Claverhouse](#):
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> > [@anya\_marie](#):
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> > Let me ask you this: What can the tea party do for me?
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> Ask not what your tea party can do for you; ask what you can do for your tea party.

Do something for someone else? And what’s in it for me again? Screw you, commie!

-Joe

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2010, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/268 "2010-10-13T19:22:58Z")

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> [@42fish](#):
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> > [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> > And then there’s the fact that the board’s conservative posters, being the believers in individual responsibility that we are, very, very, rarely come to each other’s defense in the first place. We each believe that our brethren can handle their own battles, and we know that that they expect us to do the same. I can’t think of a genuine conservative dog pile against a liberal poster in all the time I’ve been here…or even an attempt at one.
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> This of course explains why anytime **Bricker** gets pitted, he has to shoulder the burden alone without any other Doper sticking up for him.
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> Although it doesn’t quite explain how I hallucinated actually participating in threads in which a dozen posters pointed and laughed at **gonzomax**.

And remember how we’d all line up like circus seals to blow **reeder**? It’s the librul obligation, ya know.

-Joe

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2010, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/269 "2010-10-13T19:23:21Z")

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> [@42fish](#):
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> This of course explains why anytime **Bricker** gets pitted, he has to shoulder the burden alone without any other Doper sticking up for him.
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> Although it doesn’t quite explain how I hallucinated actually participating in threads in which a dozen posters pointed and laughed at **gonzomax**.

Or why **Airman** , **Jodi** , or **Ivylass** don’t get Pitted at all. (Or if they do, it’s usually a big fail)

> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> > [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> > And I do try to make it a policy not to insult individual posters unless they’ve insulted me first, so if you want to point to the instance where I insulted you, and if it wasn’t preceeded by an insult of some sort to me, I would be happy to apologize to you for it.
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> I’m still waiting.

He doesn’t have time right now – he has to go out. But he’ll get to you “later on.”

(Has he tried that one yet?)

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2010, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/270 "2010-10-13T19:29:13Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> > [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> > I’m still waiting.
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> He doesn’t have time right now – he has to go out. But he’ll get to you “later on.”
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> (Has he tried that one yet?)

Look lady, I don’t think you appreciate how much time and dedication it takes to yell at kids to get off the lawn.

-Joe

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2010, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/271 "2010-10-13T19:36:22Z")

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> [@Merijeek](#):
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> > [@Guinastasia](#):
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> > He doesn’t have time right now – he has to go out. But he’ll get to you “later on.”
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> > (Has he tried that one yet?)
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> Look lady, I don’t think you appreciate how much time and dedication it takes to yell at kids to get off the lawn.

If only he were standing in his own yard instead of the yards of random neighbors.

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**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2010, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/272 "2010-10-13T19:37:50Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> > [@Merijeek](#):
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> > Look lady, I don’t think you appreciate how much time and dedication it takes to yell at kids to get off the lawn.
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> If only he were standing in his own yard instead of the yards of random neighbors.

You mean the neighbours in houses they can’t afford, that were bailed out using his taxes???

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2010, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/273 "2010-10-13T19:57:07Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> > [@42fish](#):
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> > This of course explains why anytime **Bricker** gets pitted, he has to shoulder the burden alone without any other Doper sticking up for him.
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> > Although it doesn’t quite explain how I hallucinated actually participating in threads in which a dozen posters pointed and laughed at **gonzomax**.
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> Or why **Airman** , **Jodi** , or **Ivylass** don’t get Pitted at all. (Or if they do, it’s usually a big fail)
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> > [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> > I’m still waiting.
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> He doesn’t have time right now – he has to go out. But he’ll get to you “later on.”

For $20.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2010, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/274 "2010-10-13T20:02:03Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> For $20.

That was **SA** ’s offer in another thread. I’ve already said in this one that I’m willing to stake that much.

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2010, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/275 "2010-10-13T20:05:25Z")

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> [@emacknight](#):
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> > [@Czarcasm](#):
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> > If only he were standing in his own yard instead of the yards of random neighbors.
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> You mean the neighbours in houses they can’t afford, that were bailed out using his taxes???

Did private homeowners receive free money to catch up their mortgages? If not then I’m afraid I’m being terribly thick here (a possibility I freely admit).

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2010, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/276 "2010-10-13T20:19:16Z")

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> [@Inigo\_Montoya](#):
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> > [@emacknight](#):
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> > You mean the neighbours in houses they can’t afford, that were bailed out using his taxes???
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> Did private homeowners receive free money to catch up their mortgages? If not then I’m afraid I’m being terribly thick here (a possibility I freely admit).

Sean Beck said it, it’s got to be true.

-Joe

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**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/277 "2010-10-14T00:07:06Z")

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> [@Inigo\_Montoya](#):
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> > [@emacknight](#):
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> > You mean the neighbours in houses they can’t afford, that were bailed out using his taxes???
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> Did private homeowners receive free money to catch up their mortgages? If not then I’m afraid I’m being terribly thick here (a possibility I freely admit).

I don’t know, but that was the issue that caused Santelli to make his famous [rant](http://www.google.com/search?q=rick+santelli+rant&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a) on Feb 19th, that is believed to have kick started the Tea Party.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/278 "2010-10-14T01:19:15Z")

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So, Starving Artist, can Brendan Steinhouser be fairly considered a tea-party leader?

For that matter, is there anyone who self-identifies as a tea-party member (or sympathizer) whose political views you like and/or respect?

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/279 "2010-10-14T13:04:09Z")

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Nice threadkill, **Ekers**.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/280 "2010-10-14T13:53:10Z")

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> [@Inigo\_Montoya](#):
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> > [@emacknight](#):
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> > You mean the neighbours in houses they can’t afford, that were bailed out using his taxes???
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> Did private homeowners receive free money to catch up their mortgages? If not then I’m afraid I’m being terribly thick here (a possibility I freely admit).

Well, [sort of](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeowners_Affordability_and_Stability_Plan), although nobody gave _them_ money. The government gave lenders money and said, “thou shalt modify thy borrowers’ payments”.

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