# The Tea Party is not socially conservative my ass

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 11, 2010, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760 "2010-10-11T06:09:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/461 "2010-10-18T20:12:26Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> And your policy on charitable donation?

Unlike **Rand Rover** , I didn’t choose a profession whose rules oblige me to perform work pro bono.

> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> Or else what the hell is the Tea Party?

A circle jerk.

> [@Morella](#):
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> As for the racism, there are a few assholes in every crowd.

Like, demonstraby, you. And bigoted in other ways, too, apparently.

> [@Morella](#):
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> Government can do nothing but leech money from the economy. They cannot give you anything. They can only take.

So, the government is a problem because of the deficit. But the government only takes, doesn’t give. I guess the disparity between intake and outlay is that they’re just burning all the money, and then making more money for the express purpose of burning? Or something? You fucking retard.

> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> IMO (in my opinion, remember) the Tea Party is a groundswell of anger at the fiscal irresponsibility with which the country has been run for decades, and was touched off by Obama and Congress with the stimulous, the bailouts and its accompanying government control of business, and the health care plan.

Ah yes. The stimulus, which was put into place by Bush. The bailouts, which were put into place by Bush. The government control of businesses, which were put into place by Bush. All of which were a reaction to the recession that began during the Bush administration. The health care plan, which is very similar to the one proposed by the Republican candidate for President. Clearly, people had a reason to be mad at Obama.

Wait, what?

> [@Strassia](#):
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> Liberal’s […] motto’s […] Paul’s

I appreciate the 'sentiment of thi’s po’st, but for the love of god, pay more attention to where you’re putting your apo’strophe’s. They don’t ju’st go before every 's.

> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> And most of the Muslims that Americans hate, resent and fear are white.

Caucasian, not white. There’s a big difference.

> [@Morella](#):
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> The EPA and most other regulatory agencies should be abolished. […]  
> Gays should not be allowed to legally marry, but they can do anything else they want to do, as long as the government doesn’t have to pay the bill for their AIDS. […]  
> No American company should be allowed to use foreign labor.  
> Any person living in this country illegally should be shot.  
> Welfare, public education, and social security should be abolished.  
> No free health care, for anyone.

My god–a moron \*and \*a bigot. What are the odds!

> [@Morella](#):
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> Why should I be taxed at a larger percentage just because I work harder?

1.) “Work harder” != “make more income.”

2.) Taxes go up the more income you make because the more income you make, the more discretionary income you have. Taking an extra $1,000 from someone who’d just buy a bigger TV for their kid’s bedroom in the lake house is more useful than taking the $1,000 from someone who’d use it to pay their heating bill, or buy their kids’ schoolbooks, or repair the vehicle they use to get to their three jobs.

> [@elucidator](#):
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> Quoting Lao Tzu to support compulsive ambition as a virtue is like quotiing Ayn Rand on a Christmas card.

I have come here to say that I do not recognize anyone’s right to one minute of my life… It had to be said. The world is perishing from an orgy of self-sacrificing. Happy Holidays!

> [@emacknight](#):
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> If you don’t test me, you won’t know.
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> And if you remove the regulatory agency with authority, no one will stop me.

As much as I hate to defend a troll, I think you’re missing the point here. \*\*Morella \*\*isn’t arguing that people should be able to \*operate \*while intoxicated–simply that our current drug tests are invasive and useless. If I test positive for marijuana, that doesn’t tell you if I’m stoned right now or if I got high this weekend.

> [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](#):
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> Her

Oh, is \*\*Morella \*\*a she? Where did that get said?

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/462 "2010-10-18T20:17:36Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> Oh, is \*\*Morella \*\*a she? Where did that get said?

Obviously the female diminutive for a tasty type of mushroom, or [perhaps](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morella)?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/463 "2010-10-18T20:22:39Z")

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Oh, no you don’t, **SFG**! We of the testosterone impaired gender take enough shit as it is, you’re not shoving this one off on us! No way!

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/464 "2010-10-18T20:29:27Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Oh, no you don’t, **SFG**! We of the testosterone impaired gender take enough shit as it is, you’re not shoving this one off on us! No way!

Holy shit, **luci** is a woman?

-Joe

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/465 "2010-10-18T20:33:15Z")

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Yeah? Why don’t you suck on this for a while, see if it reminds you of Mom!

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/466 "2010-10-18T20:38:39Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Yeah? Why don’t you suck on this for a while, see if it reminds you of Mom!

See, now I don’t know if you’re calling my mom a tranny or what.

-Joe

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_jeffrey_lebowski/32/215_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Jeffrey_Lebowski)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/467 "2010-10-18T20:43:23Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> Oh, is \*\*Morella \*\*a she? Where did that get said?

Sorry, my mistake; upon review, I don’t believe that my new favorite poster has identified his/her gender.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/468 "2010-10-18T21:02:56Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](#):
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> Sorry, my mistake; upon review, I don’t believe that my new favorite poster has identified his/her gender.

Actually, this post suggests that **Morella** is, in fact, a woman:

> [@Morella](#):
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> I only allow **myself and my husband** a small salary, because we put all of our money into the business, and we’re always working, so we don’t have time to spend it anyway, yet, the taxes on my lower-middle class salary will be increased, dramatically.

It is possible that **Morella** is a gay man who lives in a state where gay marriage is legal, but simple probability suggests that this is the less likely option.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/469 "2010-10-18T21:16:45Z")

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> [@Morella](#):
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> Gays should not be allowed to legally marry, but they can do anything else they want to do, as long as the government doesn’t have to pay the bill for their AIDS.

> [@mhendo](#):
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> Actually, this post suggests that **Morella** is, in fact, a woman:It is possible that **Morella** is a gay man who lives in a state where gay marriage is legal, but simple probability suggests that this is the less likely option.

It would seem that Morella is an angry homophobic bitch in addition to her other mental defects. So it would seem very unlikely that she plays for that team.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/470 "2010-10-18T21:18:29Z")

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> [@Squink](#):
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> Obviously the female diminutive for a tasty type of mushroom, or [perhaps](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morella)?

Assuming gender based on names has tripped me up before, in the case of such posters as \*\*villa \*\*and \*\*Zeriel \*\*(both male, both initially assumed to be female by me).

> [@elucidator](#):
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> Oh, no you don’t, **SFG**! We of the testosterone impaired gender take enough shit as it is, you’re not shoving this one off on us! No way!

It weren’t me what done it! It was **The Other Jeffrey Lebowski**! Who was apparently correct, as \*\*mhendo \*\*observes evidentially below:

> [@mhendo](#):
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> Actually, this post suggests that **Morella** is, in fact, a woman:[dropped quote] It is possible that **Morella** is a gay man who lives in a state where gay marriage is legal, but simple probability suggests that this is the less likely option.

Less than probability, I’d say the fact that she thinks that “gays” shouldn’t be allowed to marry and no one else should have to pay for “their AIDS” is a pretty bit tipoff.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/471 "2010-10-18T21:23:12Z")

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Wow! I hadn’t seen the stuff about gay marriage and paying for “their AIDS.”

That bitch really is a fucking horrid piece of work.

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/472 "2010-10-18T21:25:09Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> It would seem that Morella is an angry homophobic bitch in addition to her other mental defects. So it would seem very unlikely that she plays for that team.

Probably experimented in college, got dumped, and has been pissy about “them” ever since.

Or so my Cinemax viewing would lead me to believe.

> [@mhendo](#):
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> Wow! I hadn’t seen the stuff about gay marriage and paying for “their AIDS.”
> 
> That bitch really is a fucking horrid piece of work.

**curlycoat** ’s even more malicious twin?

-Joe

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/473 "2010-10-18T21:34:28Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> Less than probability

Ack, I knew something about this sentence didn’t seem right. That should be “\*\*\*More \*\*\*than probability.”

> [@Merijeek](#):
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> **curlycoat** ’s even more malicious twin?

Since \*\*curly \*\*sucks at the government teat, \*\*Morella \*\*probably thinks she should be shot.

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/474 "2010-10-18T23:19:52Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> Since \*\*curly \*\*sucks at the government teat, \*\*Morella \*\*probably thinks she should be shot.

But…I think she should be too.

-Joe

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**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/475 "2010-10-18T23:48:41Z")

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> [@emacknight](#):
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> If you don’t test me, you won’t know.
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> And if you remove the regulatory agency with authority, no one will stop me.

Oh, _ben voyons_. Have you ever tried to fly out of a busy airport? If your short-term memory is not 100%, you’re going to be in trouble before you get off of the ground.

If I were to hire you as an employee, I, or my designate, would know whether or not you were using drugs. Of course, I fire people for being weapons-grade stupid, regardless of the cause.

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**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/476 "2010-10-18T23:51:40Z")

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> [@emacknight](#):
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> If you don’t test me, you won’t know.
> 
> And if you remove the regulatory agency with authority, no one will stop me.

Oh, _ben voyons_. Have you ever tried to fly out of a busy airport? If your short-term memory is not 100%, you’re going to be in trouble before you get off of the ground.

If I were to hire you as an employee, I, or my designate, would know whether or not you were using drugs. Of course, I fire people for being weapons-grade stupid, regardless of the cause, and I doubt that I would hire you in the first place. Anyone dumb enough to jump onto DuPont’s paranoia wagon is probably too stupid to drive a truck, fly a plane, or sweep the floor.

Next you’ll be telling me you bought into DuPont’s R12 “ozone layer hole” story.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/477 "2010-10-18T23:53:00Z")

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> [@Morella](#):
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> Of course, I fire people for being weapons-grade stupid, regardless of the cause.

I assume, as owner of the business, that you give yourself a pass.

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**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/478 "2010-10-18T23:55:11Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> Last I checked, the people investigating the accidents were the FAA; a big government bureaucracy, and therefore incompetent.

Nope. The NTSB investigates airline accidents. They actually do a pretty decent job of it, one of the few allegories of good government, so to speak.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/479 "2010-10-18T23:58:57Z")

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> [@Morella](#):
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> Nope. The NTSB investigates airline accidents. They actually do a pretty decent job of it, one of the few \*\*allegories \*\*of good government, so to speak.

I do not think this word means what you think it means.

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**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/480 "2010-10-19T00:01:15Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> \<gasp!\>
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> So, **Morella** … is it that you thought you could get away with a lie, or are you just so fucking stupid that you think whatever you think is a “fact”?

I thought we had decided that I was a troll. If that is true, maybe I was looking for an example of an aviation accident that was caused by drug use, to use in another forum where I am arguing the opposite point, and I knew that I could bait one of you stupid liberal fuckers into looking it up for me.

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