# The Tea Party is not socially conservative my ass **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 11, 2010, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760 "2010-10-11T06:09:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 25
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/481 "2010-10-19T00:04:32Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > Nope. The NTSB investigates airline accidents. They actually do a pretty decent job of it, one of the few allegories of good government, so to speak. Okay, the NTSB. My mistake. But on the larger issue of abolishing entire government agencies, would you get rid of the FAA, the NTSB, and the National Weather Service? ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/482 "2010-10-19T00:07:11Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > I thought we had decided that I was a troll. If that is true, maybe I was looking for an example of an aviation accident that was caused by drug use, to use in another forum where I am arguing the opposite point, and I knew that I could bait one of you stupid liberal fuckers into looking it up for me. Then we’ll have to hope that your case in that forum will be better supported than the one you’re making here. And for the amount of posting you’ve done here to provoke the liberal fuckers, you could have saved yourself some time to just find your own cite. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/483 "2010-10-19T00:26:20Z")
Maybe she is, maybe she isn’t. Schrodinger’s troll. ---
**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/484 "2010-10-19T00:53:23Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > Oh, _ben voyons_. Have you ever tried to fly out of a busy airport? If your short-term memory is not 100%, you’re going to be in trouble before you get off of the ground. C’est des conneries. So now what your saying is that pilots don’t need rules about drug tests because flying is too hard to do stoned? > [@Morella](#): > > If I were to hire you as an employee, I, or my designate, would know whether or not you were using drugs. How would you know? Would you use some sort of a test? > [@Morella](#): > > Of course, I fire people for being weapons-grade stupid, regardless of the cause. Sure you do. We’re all very impressed with how important you are. \*bon chance abruti \* ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/485 "2010-10-19T00:55:26Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > Of course, I fire people for being weapons-grade stupid, regardless of the cause. Huh. Yet you still employ yourself? Go figure. No wonder your business cannot expand. It’s got nothing to do with taxes. ---
**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/486 "2010-10-19T00:59:10Z")
> [@emacknight](#): > > C’est des conneries. So now what your saying is that pilots don’t need rules about drug tests because flying is too hard to do stoned? > > How would you know? Would you use some sort of a test? Because I’ve been flying since long before the Golden Age of Government Control began, and I know these things. I’m not going to go into any more detail than that. > [@](#): > > Sure you do. We’re all very impressed with how important you are. \*bon chance abruti \* Bonne Chance. Chance is feminine, _connard_. ---
**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/487 "2010-10-19T01:04:09Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > Look, I know you’re a douche that has no intention of living in a world bound by the dictates of fact and reality. I know you’ll simply ignore what I write here because you’re so weak and angry that nothing can change the narrative of throbbing stupidity that constantly runs through your squinting, frothing melon. But still, I’ll address your bullshit on the merits. Because I’m compulsive this way. No, I didn’t ignore it. Unfortunately, it takes a little squeezin’ to get you liberals to cough up anything more than your opinions, but I appreciate what little information you were willing to give me about WMD. To tell you the truth, though, I don’t really care that much whether or not Obama’s war on Iraq was justified… …or Bush Sr’s, or Bush Jr’s… I have to agree with Chuck…pave the whole country over and put a gas pump on top of it. > [@](#): > > Iraq is a country of 20 million people. Saddam did get rid of his stockpiles and programs. But some units somewhere either didn’t comply, didn’t read the labels, or just fucking made a mistake. How about that Russian figher jet that they pulled out of the sand, based on a tip? What is your excuse for them having it? > [@](#): > > As for the birth certificate I was wondering if you were a birther. Just trying to gauge your level of ability. Oh, OK. I thought maybe you were setting me up for another strawman argument. I get a lot of that around here. ---
**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/488 "2010-10-19T01:07:39Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > Because I’ve been flying since long before the Golden Age of Government Control began, and I know these things. I’m not going to go into any more detail than that. > > Bonne Chance. Chance is feminine, _connard_. Classic. Or should I say classique in italics for no apparent reason? Life was so good before liberals messed it all up. I will now bow before your awesome authority, because clearly you know these things. Nothing at all gives us doubt. Shouldn’t you be busier? It’s almost as if you’re not working very hard. \*salope \* ---
**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/489 "2010-10-19T01:10:50Z")
> [@emacknight](#): > > Unfortunately for us, it seems **Morella** is back on the road (or to the skies). We were so close to fighting ignorance. Someone should wait a week and google either that part platform, or the “no drug related crashes” and see if he/she/it pops up on another board spouting the same nonsense. I’m back, for another hour, or maybe two, then I have to blast off again. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/490 "2010-10-19T01:13:16Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > Because I’ve been flying since long before the Golden Age of Government Control began, and I know these things. I’m not going to go into any more detail than that. The Federal Aviation Agency was created in 1958. Federal control of aviation began in 1926. ---
**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/491 "2010-10-19T01:15:13Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > Ever watch _Battlestar Galactica_? “You have to pick your side”. I would be in complete agreement with a political party, that supported these ideas : > > Religion is total bullshit, and should be abolished. > The EPA and most other regulatory agencies should be abolished. > All prescription drugs should be freely available to adults. No drugs should be illegal. > Gays should not be allowed to legally marry, but they can do anything else they want to do, as long as the government doesn’t have to pay the bill for their AIDS. > Antitrust regulations should be toughened. > No American company should be allowed to use foreign labor. > Any person living in this country illegally should be shot. > Welfare, public education, and social security should be abolished. > No free health care, for anyone. > > Does any party align with all of these ideas? No. I will vote conservative, despite the fact that I obviously disagree with much of the conservative agenda, because it is the lesser of all of the evils. I won’t hate black people, and I won’t praise Jesus, whether the party that I have chosen to vote for does or not. That’s what we all have to do…pick our side. It’s not a perfect world. For those of you just joining us, this is our merde de jour. And we’re also putting in random _expressions françaises_ (in italics) for no apparent reason. I’ll admit, I focused on the part about shooting people, but this one is even funnier: “No American company should be allowed to use foreign labor.” What does that even mean? I’m not even sure how someone puts together a list like that? Has she had that kicking around in her head all these years? If I search will I find it’s from yet another conservative blog? What the fuck is wrong with our society? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/492 "2010-10-19T01:15:53Z")
> [@](#): > > The Federal Aviation Agency was created in 1958. **Morella** is a dragon. ---
**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/493 "2010-10-19T01:16:49Z")
> [@anya\_marie](#): > > Morella, thanks a bunch for attacking my hygiene, and calling me a stoner. You’re welcome, Dear. If you don’t want to be called a stoner, quit acting like one, requesting that everything be given to you. Go out and get what you want. > [@](#): > > It’s so fucking nice to know that’s all i can expect from you. I asked for a job, not a handout, but i suppose that means nothing to you. It might. What do you do, and why should I hire you? > [@](#): > > Thanks for clearing up the position of your fellow tea partiers, and for spouting the same bullshit about tax cuts creating jobs, certainly one doesn’t get that frm MSNBC. I’m not a tea partier, just a businessperson trying to get by in what is a very shaky economic situation. Hopefully, we will soon, as the French said in _Le Monde_, get the legitimate government restored to the United States again, and business can prosper, but there is a long way to go. I doubt that most of you remember how great this country was for business in the 60’s and 70’s. I only wish I had been willing to work as hard as I do now, back then. I would be a billionaire. ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/494 "2010-10-19T01:17:23Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > **Morella** is a dragon. A fudge dragon? ---
**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/495 "2010-10-19T01:18:24Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > I’m back, for another hour, or maybe two, then I have to blast off again. So with regards to your statement about drug related crashes, were you lying or stupid? How many other people have to you told that to? Have you apologized to them? Would that qualify as being “being weapons-grade stupid?” ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/496 "2010-10-19T01:19:53Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > I doubt that most of you remember how great this country was for business in the 60’s and 70’s. Should a country be great for business, or great for its citizens? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/497 "2010-10-19T01:21:02Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > Hopefully, we will soon, as the French said in _Le Monde_, get the legitimate government restored to the United States again… You mean, one that didn’t win the popular election? ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/498 "2010-10-19T01:23:01Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > **Morella** is a dragon. …our argument is invalid. ---
**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/499 "2010-10-19T01:24:00Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > 1.) “Work harder” != “make more income.” I’ve found that one pretty much leads to the other. > [@](#): > > 2.) Taxes go up the more income you make because the more income you make, the more discretionary income you have. Taking an extra $1,000 from someone who’d just buy a bigger TV for their kid’s bedroom in the lake house is more useful than taking the $1,000 from someone who’d use it to pay their heating bill, or buy their kids’ schoolbooks, or repair the vehicle they use to get to their three jobs. What if, instead, I took the $1,000 and paid someone to move freight with it? That way, he has the $1,000 to spend on his heating bill, and I have, hopefully, made some more money that I can use to hire other employees who need jobs? Then maybe I can lease another airplane, or buy another truck, and the people who make airplanes and trucks can have jobs as well? Or would it be better for the $1,000 to go to the government, where it will be squandered on Chinese windmills and supporting people who have eight babies at a time while on welfare? > [@](#): > > As much as I hate to defend a troll, I think you’re missing the point here. \*\*Morella \*\*isn’t arguing that people should be able to \*operate \*while intoxicated–simply that our current drug tests are invasive and useless. If I test positive for marijuana, that doesn’t tell you if I’m stoned right now or if I got high this weekend. Hey, we trolls can take care of ourselves. So can black people, and Obama. ---
**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/500 "2010-10-19T01:26:21Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > I doubt that most of you remember how great this country was for business in the 60’s and 70’s. I only wish I had been willing to work as hard as I do now, back then. I would be a billionaire. This whole process has fit such a repetitive little narrative. And now we’re at the part were today’s conservative remembers fondly a time when life was good. 40, 60, maybe 80 years ago. Doesn’t seem to matter at all what was going on, all that matter is that for them, life was good. And the liberals screwed it all up with their liberalism and gay sex and AIDS. Reminds me of the movie _Brain Candy_, but I fear that is a cultural reference few will get. Which makes me wonder, what will today’s young conservatives think back to when they’re old? Will there be a time in 40 years when yet another idiot says, “remember how great it was in 2010?” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760.md?page=24) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760.md?page=26)