# The Tea Party is not socially conservative my ass

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 11, 2010, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760 "2010-10-11T06:09:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/521 "2010-10-19T02:04:24Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> I’m thinking you can’t be a real great businessperson. A day or three ago you were waiting to be fueled up instead of saving money by doing it yourself.

You mean I should have gone and stolen the fuel truck, grabbed my own can of Prist, and started putting fuel in the plane myself? No, I don’t think so.

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> Yesterday you were whining on the board (in between calling us names) about how nobody was calling you with a load instead of calling people looking for a load.

Yes. I have a broker who calls people looking for a load, and he knows what he is doing. Why should I be trying to do his job for him?

As for namecalling, do you really think I’m the major offender here?

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/522 "2010-10-19T02:05:17Z")

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> [@Morella](#):
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> What does the popular election have to do with anything? Do you believe that people who live in a few areas of urban sprawl (the “blue” areas) should be allowed to tell the whole rest of the country (the “red” areas) what to do?

Yes, in fact, I do. There was, in fact, in very recent history, a period when the red areas were telling the blue areas what to do. Popular elections decided that.

What the fuck is wrong with you?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/523 "2010-10-19T02:09:45Z")

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You are traveling through another dimension, a dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind. A journey into a wondrous land of imagination…

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**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/524 "2010-10-19T02:11:17Z")

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> [@emacknight](#):
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> Again, is this statement autogenerated by some sort of conservative mad libs? Do you know actually know what HIV/AIDS is?

Who doesn’t? We called it “Le Sida” in France. The media never shuts up about it.

Now let me ask you this…who, in this day and age, with all of the blood donor screening that we have…who, other than homosexual men and IV drug users, gets AIDS? The occasional whore who happens to screw bisexual men?

Why should you or I have to pay for their AIDS? They know damned well that they’re risking AIDS when they participate in these activities.

As a fair analogy, I like to walk around in my sock feet. I’ve been known to walk across the airport ramp in sock feet, or across my front yard to get a newspaper. I know damned well that doing this is going to wear out my socks prematurely, so is it fair for me to ask the taxpayers to buy me new socks? If they were responsible for buying me socks, then they would have the right to tell me to put my shoes on, but they can’t get me to do that, any more than I can get gays to stop ramming their cocks into each other’s asses, or junkies to stop passing needles around. So…I will buy my own socks, and they can pay for their own AIDS. Isn’t that fair enough?

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**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/525 "2010-10-19T02:15:35Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> Yes, in fact, I do. There was, in fact, in very recent history, a period when the red areas were telling the blue areas what to do. Popular elections decided that.

So the citizens of New York City should tell Kansas how to run their state? What the fuck is wrong with you?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/526 "2010-10-19T02:15:40Z")

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Faiir? Who cares about fair? I just want to take all your money and give it to AIDS infected gay junkies so they’ll buy more tie-dyed shirts.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/527 "2010-10-19T02:18:32Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> You are traveling through another dimension, a dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind. A journey into a wondrous land of imagination…

Jeez, I guess so. Gotta be a troll, I suppose, my brain is otherwise incapable of grasping her ideas.

I’ll note, at this point, that **Morella** has gone to the trouble, as so few of us do, of going to her User CP and disabling the online icon. I wonder why?

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**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/528 "2010-10-19T02:27:22Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> Jeez, I guess so. Gotta be a troll, I suppose, my brain is otherwise incapable of grasping her ideas.
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> I’ll note, at this point, that **Morella** has gone to the trouble, as so few of us do, of going to her User CP and disabling the online icon. I wonder why?

So I can sneak up on you.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/529 "2010-10-19T02:28:32Z")

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> [@Morella](#):
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> So the citizens of New York City should tell Kansas how to run their state?

Yes. When it comes to items controlled by the Feds, the Federal government controls, and Kansas is just going to have to deal with it. Just like New York dealt with a Federal government that demanded things it didn’t agree with.

That’s life, that the way it goes, and that’s what elections decide.

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**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/530 "2010-10-19T02:37:02Z")

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> [@Morella](#):
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> Who doesn’t? We called it “Le Sida” in France. The media never shuts up about it.
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> Now let me ask you this…who, in this day and age, with all of the blood donor screening that we have…who, other than homosexual men and IV drug users, gets AIDS? The occasional whore who happens to screw bisexual men?
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> Why should you or I have to pay for their AIDS? They know damned well that they’re risking AIDS when they participate in these activities.
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> As a fair analogy, I like to walk around in my sock feet. I’ve been known to walk across the airport ramp in sock feet, or across my front yard to get a newspaper. I know damned well that doing this is going to wear out my socks prematurely, so is it fair for me to ask the taxpayers to buy me new socks? If they were responsible for buying me socks, then they would have the right to tell me to put my shoes on, but they can’t get me to do that, any more than I can get gays to stop ramming their cocks into each other’s asses, or junkies to stop passing needles around. So…I will buy my own socks, and they can pay for their own AIDS. Isn’t that fair enough?

Yup, you’ve demonstrated yet another layer of stupidity. You’re like an ogre, and an onion, and a donkey, all that the same time. Well done. How is it you have the mental capacity to fly, and yet fail to grasp otherwise simplistic concepts? Is it that you’re actually just 14, with a little model of an airplane, spouting the gibberish you hear your unemployed dad rant about for the few hours he’s home between binges?

Who the fuck still bitches about AIDS? The 80’s called, they want their ignorance back.

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**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/531 "2010-10-19T02:44:16Z")

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Which really makes me wonder, are there sane conservatives? What is this shit?

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/532 "2010-10-19T03:13:43Z")

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> [@Morella](#):
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> Why should you or I have to pay for their AIDS? They know damned well that they’re risking AIDS when they participate in these activities.

I’m willing to pitch in, sure; I’m a nice guy, a swell egg. As for you, who cares? Are you under the impression your opinion deserves consideration? Do we owe it to you? What have you done to deserve being listened to?

I understand you don’t want to pay for something, but I don’t understand why anyone should care what you want. Please explain what you’ve done to earn my consideration or that of anyone here, for that matter. Why do you think your being inconvenienced matters to anyone but you?

I’ll never understand libertarians who think total strangers owe them an ear, or the time of day, or anything at all, when all they can talk about is how other people don’t deserve what libertarians feel they haven’t earned. Why should anyone else care about what you want?

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> As a fair analogy, I like to walk around in my sock feet. I’ve been known to walk across the airport ramp in sock feet, or across my front yard to get a newspaper. I know damned well that doing this is going to wear out my socks prematurely, so is it fair for me to ask the taxpayers to buy me new socks? If they were responsible for buying me socks, then they would have the right to tell me to put my shoes on, but they can’t get me to do that, any more than I can get gays to stop ramming their cocks into each other’s asses, or junkies to stop passing needles around. So…I will buy my own socks, and they can pay for their own AIDS. Isn’t that fair enough?

You should contribute to the health care of others anyway. They benefit from it, and the only person inconvenienced is you. Your being inconvenienced doesn’t affect me at all, so there’s no problem. I’m not sure why I should care if you think it’s fair or not.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/533 "2010-10-19T03:33:55Z")

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> [@emacknight](#):
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> Which really makes me wonder, are there sane conservatives? What is this shit?

Calling these positions conservative is like saying Trotsky was a lliberal.

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/534 "2010-10-19T04:07:53Z")

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> [@Morella](#):
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> Whom, do you think, should have to pay for their AIDS?

That’s _who_. Objective case. _Nom d’un chien! Sacre Bleu! La plume de ma tante!!!_

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/535 "2010-10-19T04:18:58Z")

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> [@Morella](#):
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> Why should you or I have to pay for their AIDS? They know damned well that they’re risking AIDS when they participate in these activities.

Sometimes their wives don’t. Should their wives die?

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/536 "2010-10-19T04:47:50Z")

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> [@Morella](#):
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> Get rid of the FAA completely? No. Perhaps change a few things, if it were up to me, but, the FAA actually does a pretty good job of what they’re doing, and they don’t hassle us. They seem genuinely concerned about air safety,…

So what makes you think other government agencies don’t support their fields as effectively as the FAA supports yours? You seem anxious to end regulation of everyone else’s business, but not those that let your business exist.

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> The NTSB? They can scrap it, for all I care. I don’t really care that much why planes crash.

You cared enough to cite the causes of air crashes earlier in this thread. (Or mis-cite them, as the case may be.) If you’re concerned about safety, isn’t finding the cause causes of past crashes instrumental in preventing future ones?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/537 "2010-10-19T06:02:53Z")

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Bored now.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/538 "2010-10-19T06:09:47Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> The Federal Aviation Agency was created in 1958.
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> Federal control of aviation began in 1926.

\<gasp!\>

_Another_ lie??? Who would have thought it? I’m shocked- _shocked_ I tell you!

Or maybe, **Morella** , you expect us to believe you’re over 90 years old? :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/539 "2010-10-19T11:52:21Z")

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> [@Morella](#):
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> What does the popular election have to do with anything? Do you believe that people who live in a few areas of urban sprawl (the “blue” areas) should be allowed to tell the whole rest of the country (the “red” areas) what to do?

Since the blue areas are paying more taxes than the red areas, isn’t that the libertarian way?

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/540 "2010-10-19T14:50:08Z")

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> [@Morella](#):
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> What does the popular election have to do with anything? Do you believe that people who live in a few areas of urban sprawl (the “blue” areas) should be allowed to tell the whole rest of the country (the “red” areas) what to do?

Because that’s where the people are, fool. We have a government of the people, by the people, and for the people. Not of/by/for dirt. :rolleyes:😛

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