# The Tea Party is not socially conservative my ass **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 11, 2010, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760 "2010-10-11T06:09:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 28
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/541 "2010-10-19T15:06:29Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > What does the popular election have to do with anything? Do you believe that people who live in a few areas of urban sprawl (the “blue” areas) should be allowed to tell the whole rest of the country (the “red” areas) what to do? Well, yes. Our system is set up to ensure that _people_ are represented, rather than _land_. I must admit that it had not previously occurred to me how thoughtless the Founders were in this regard, not to mention our forefathers in England. Thank you for opening my eyes. > [@](#): > > Now let me ask you this…who, in this day and age, with all of the blood donor screening that we have…who, other than homosexual men and IV drug users, gets AIDS? The occasional whore who happens to screw bisexual men? Nobody “gets AIDS”. Some people get HIV, which typically develops into AIDS. About [35,000 people a year in the US](http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/surveillance/basic.htm), approximately one third of whom are heterosexual, contract HIV. ---
**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/542 "2010-10-19T16:44:57Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > The Federal Aviation Agency was created in 1958. > > Federal control of aviation began in 1926. In all fairness to **Morella** , if I’d been running an aviation business for 85 years and done so poorly at it that I had to personally put in 30-hours days to keep it afloat, I’d be cranky too. ---
**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/543 "2010-10-19T16:49:56Z")
> [@42fish](#): > > In all fairness to **Morella** , if I’d been running an aviation business for 85 years and done so poorly at it that I had to personally put in 30-hours days to keep it afloat, I’d be cranky too. Sure, but if it wasn’t for taxes he/she/it/il/elle/nous/vous would only have to work 28 hours a day. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/544 "2010-10-19T16:51:22Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > Federal Aviation Administration? No, Frank’s right, it was an Agency until its renaming in 1967. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/545 "2010-10-19T16:53:32Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > Because I’ve been flying since long before the Golden Age of Government Control began, and I know these things. I’m not going to go into any more detail than that. IOW, “I was flying for a long time before they caught me and made me get a license.” 😛 ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/546 "2010-10-19T17:30:01Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > What does the popular election have to do with anything? Do you believe that people who live in a few areas of urban sprawl (the “blue” areas) should be allowed to tell the whole rest of the country (the “red” areas) what to do? Do you believe a given person’s vote should count any different based on where he/she lives? ---
**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2010, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/547 "2010-10-19T17:33:41Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Do you believe a given person’s vote should count any different based on where he/she lives? Well it already does - especially for the Senate. I get the feeling though that dear **Morella** would bring in a whole swathe of new ways of distinguishing between the value of different people’s votes. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/548 "2010-10-20T17:04:54Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Maybe she is, maybe she isn’t. Schrodinger’s troll. No, that would be if she were both a troll and not a troll, but only while we weren’t looking at her. At which point we’d know for sure she isn’t a troll, because the entire point of trolling is to get attention. Congratulations; you just made the universe explode. > [@emacknight](#): > > What the fuck is wrong with our society? Willfull ignorance. > [@Morella](#): > > What if, instead, I took the $1,000 and paid someone to move freight with it? If the freight needs to get moved, it will get moved anyway. Meanwhile, the government takes all of the money it collects and does the things that we can’t do individually. > [@Morella](#): > > Just to set the record straight, it looks just as much like a taco to me as it does to you guys… Oh, a failed SRS. Sorry. I guess being a self-loathing trans woman explains your hatred of gay men. > [@emacknight](#): > > Do you know actually know what HIV/AIDS is? That’s the one you get from spitting on a toilet seat after a fag has made a glory hole to the next stall, right? > [@Morella](#): > > More correctly put, _Merde du jour._ Personally, I’d think of you as a 糞っ垂れ. For the kids playing along at home, it means literally something like “person with shit hanging off their asshole.” > [@Morella](#): > > The US has unlimited class mobility, and so anyone can make it here. Yes, when we’re all granted our own fairy brigade at the age of 12, to train up to help run the unicorn farms we get a share in on our 21st birthdays. > [@Morella](#): > > Do you believe that people who live in a few areas of urban sprawl (the “blue” areas) should be allowed to tell the whole rest of the country (the “red” areas) what to do? Yeah, who the hell decided that each \*person \*should get a vote, instead of each _acre_? That’s just retarded. > [@Frank](#): > > There was, in fact, in very recent history, a period when the red areas were telling the blue areas what to do. Popular elections decided that. A big part of that was the responsibility of the electoral college, not the popular vote. > [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Bored now. Please, please, \*please \*tell me there will be flaying. > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Or maybe, **Morella** , you expect us to believe you’re over 90 years old? :rolleyes: Hey, life has been \*hard \*since they started giving white men’s rights to those uppity Negros. ---
**Author:** ![irae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f0a364/32.png) [@irae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irae)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2010, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/549 "2010-10-20T21:12:58Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > What does the popular election have to do with anything? Do you believe that people who live in a few areas of urban sprawl (the “blue” areas) should be allowed to tell the whole rest of the country (the “red” areas) what to do? If there are more people in the small blue areas, then yeah. Are you trying to get acres the vote? ---
**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/550 "2010-10-21T19:22:52Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > Yes. When it comes to items controlled by the Feds, the Federal government controls, and Kansas is just going to have to deal with it. Just like New York dealt with a Federal government that demanded things it didn’t agree with. > > That’s life, that the way it goes, and that’s what elections decide. Fortunately, the Founding Fathers were a little smarter than you are. They realized that what is right for the “people” in one state might not be right for the “people” in another. They also understood the threat of a federal government that would grow bigger than it should and usurp power from the states, which is we we have the Constitution, to limit the power of the federal government. It is government according to the Constitution that the Tea Party wants to restore, and, on that note, I am in agreement with them. ---
**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/551 "2010-10-21T19:24:54Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > Fortunately, the Founding Fathers were a little smarter than you are. They realized that what is right for the “people” in one state might not be right for the “people” in another. They also understood the threat of a federal government that would grow bigger than it should and usurp power from the states, which is we we have the Constitution, to limit the power of the federal government. It is government according to the Constitution that the Tea Party wants to restore, and, on that note, I am in agreement with them. Given most tea baggers I have met, and your opinions, I’d actually agree with this. I think they and you want to restore government according to the original Constitution, without those pesky amendments (especially the 13th through 15th). ---
**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/552 "2010-10-21T19:25:26Z")
> [@emacknight](#): > > Yup, you’ve demonstrated yet another layer of stupidity. You’re like an ogre, and an onion, and a donkey, all that the same time. Well done. How is it you have the mental capacity to fly, and yet fail to grasp otherwise simplistic concepts? Is it that you’re actually just 14, with a little model of an airplane, spouting the gibberish you hear your unemployed dad rant about for the few hours he’s home between binges? Actually, it doesn’t take much of a brain to fly. Some of the stupidest people I’ve ever met were airline pilots. > [@](#): > > Who the fuck still bitches about AIDS? As long as I don’t have to pay for it, _j’en ai rien a foutre, moi_. Let 'em screw around. ---
**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/553 "2010-10-21T19:26:35Z")
> [@villa](#): > > Given most tea baggers I have met, and your opinions, I’d actually agree with this. I think they and you want to restore government according to the original Constitution, without those pesky amendments (especially the 13th through 15th). Name three tea baggers you have met, and what they said that gave you the idea that they want to go back to slavery. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/554 "2010-10-21T19:28:34Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > is government according to the Constitution that the Tea Party wants to restore, and, on that note, I am in agreement with them. Except for all those bits of the Constitution that they don’t like. Such as fags being treated like human beings. Oops. Please share with us, in detail, what parts of the Constitution are currently being violated. ---
**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/555 "2010-10-21T19:28:40Z")
Hey, look who’s back, with a whole lot of extra time to spend on an internet message board. ---
**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/556 "2010-10-21T19:30:46Z")
> [@The\_Tooth](#): > > I’m willing to pitch in, sure; I’m a nice guy, a swell egg. As for you, who cares? Are you under the impression your opinion deserves consideration? Do we owe it to you? What have you done to deserve being listened to? As much as you have, I suppose. > [@](#): > > I’ll never understand libertarians who think total strangers owe them an ear, or the time of day, or anything at all, when all they can talk about is how other people don’t deserve what libertarians feel they haven’t earned. Why should anyone else care about what you want? For one thing, someone might want to be employed, and I am an employer. I hear a lot of bitching from liberals about “why aren’t there any jobs?”, yet, when the question is answered, they don’t want to hear it. The money to pay the employees went to taxes…that is your answer. > [@](#): > > You should contribute to the health care of others anyway. Yes, and you should build me a new house, because I believe that everyone has the right to free housing. Get your ass busy and pick up a shovel…we’re pouring the foundation tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/557 "2010-10-21T19:32:35Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > Yes, and you should build me a new house, because I believe that everyone has the right to free housing. Get your ass busy and pick up a shovel…we’re pouring the foundation tomorrow. So you’re okay with getting rid of the mortgage interest deduction? ---
**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/558 "2010-10-21T19:33:36Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > Name three tea baggers you have met, and what they said that gave you the idea that they want to go back to slavery. Well, for one, their complete lack of a sense of humor was apparent. I’ve met plenty of tea baggers when they come up to clog up the streets of my metropolitan area. Such is their right. But they have expressed displeasure with government involvement in the civil rights arena. Equal Protection seems to be something tea baggers, Neo Nazis, birthers, John Birchers, Ditto Heads and other assorted clowns aren’t a big fan of. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/559 "2010-10-21T19:35:50Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > Name three tea baggers you have met, and what they said that gave you the idea that they want to go back to slavery. Do you realize how dumb this post is? The three teabaggers I’ve met are John Smith, Nancy Stuebens, and Paul Huzagudkitty. Prove me wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/560 "2010-10-21T19:38:49Z")
> [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#): > > That’s _who_. Objective case. _Nom d’un chien! Sacre Bleu! La plume de ma tante!!!_ Geez, and I thought I had finally learned English well enough to communicate with blue-collar liberals. _Ta tante dit se faire régulièrement baiser par tous les trous, en sandwich à sec. Et ton chien aussi, espèce de mouille_. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760.md?page=27) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760.md?page=29)