# The Tea Party is not socially conservative my ass **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 11, 2010, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760 "2010-10-11T06:09:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 29
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/561 "2010-10-21T19:40:07Z")
If \*\*Morella \*\*realized how dumb her posts were, she wouldn’t be here. Also, go to hell. I’ll say to you what I said to **villa** : no fair making me laugh when I have to pee. Now I need to get on my hunter, tame a new cat, and name it Huzagudkitty. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/562 "2010-10-21T19:41:36Z")
I know it is crazy and kinda “out there” but wouldn’t the sensible solution be to stop posting for three minutes and go pee? ---
**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/563 "2010-10-21T19:47:59Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > So what makes you think other government agencies don’t support their fields as effectively as the FAA supports yours? You seem anxious to end regulation of everyone else’s business, but not those that let your business exist. Actually, most of my business is in motor freight. I got a call from a driver last night. One of his axles was 1000# overweight. Now I’m sure that someone here thinks that this driver deserves to give up hundreds of dollars of his hard-earned money for committing such a transgression to the people’s motorway, paid for with Obama money (not IFTA taxes, of course), but… He was required by the customer to drive 200 miles without stopping, because he was carrying a high-value load, and The customer did not have a scale. So what is wrong with the government giving him a ticket for having an axle overweight? They made him slide his tandems and reweigh. The scale had an outside display that could have told him how much the axle needed to be moved, but they had it switched off. They refused to tell him which axle was overweight, or give him any of the information that led them to believe that he has committed a violation, yet, he was required to move the tandems and reweigh. Why? Because if an axle was overweight on the reweigh, the fine would be doubled. This tells me that the DOT (FAA excluded) does not give a flying fuck about safety. What they care about is taking money away from people who work hard for it. I paid this driver’s ticket. I am probably one of the few carriers who would do that, but he is a good man, and I can afford it more easily than he can. The DOT is more in line with other government agencies that I deal with, like EPA, IRS, etc., which exist mainly to extort money from people. > [@](#): > > You cared enough to cite the causes of air crashes earlier in this thread. (Or mis-cite them, as the case may be.) If you’re concerned about safety, isn’t finding the cause causes of past crashes instrumental in preventing future ones? In some situations, yes, but not in mine. I can’t explain it to you because you don’t have the background to understand what I’m talking about. Besides, it is a moot point, because the NTSB was someone else’s example, not mine. ---
**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/564 "2010-10-21T19:51:14Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > \ > > _Another_ lie??? Who would have thought it? I’m shocked- _shocked_ I tell you! > > Or maybe, **Morella** , you expect us to believe you’re over 90 years old? :rolleyes: What in the fuck are you babbling about? ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/565 "2010-10-21T19:52:30Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > Do you realize how dumb this post is? > > The three teabaggers I’ve met are John Smith, Nancy Stuebens, and Paul Huzagudkitty. Prove me wrong. You know Paul? We went to school together back in the day. God, the times we had playing with a ball of string. Good times. Good times. ---
**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/566 "2010-10-21T19:54:08Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Since the blue areas are paying more taxes than the red areas, isn’t that the libertarian way? I don’t know, Moperator, I’m not a libertarian, but people are allowed to vote whether they pay taxes or not. It has been argued that 47% of Americans pay no income taxes at all, and I will just venture to guess that the majority of them live in those blue areas of urban sprawl, so I really doubt that you have a point here. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/567 "2010-10-21T19:58:09Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > I don’t know, Moperator, I’m not a libertarian, but people are allowed to vote whether they pay taxes or not. It has been argued that 47% of Americans pay no income taxes at all, and I will just venture to guess that the majority of them live in those blue areas of urban sprawl, so I really doubt that you have a point here. Ah, truthiness. When [reality](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_tax_revenue_by_state) just doesn’t fit with what you want to believe, go with what your gut tells you instead. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/568 "2010-10-21T19:59:22Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > I don’t know, Moperator, I’m not a libertarian, but people are allowed to vote whether they pay taxes or not. It has been argued that 47% of Americans pay no income taxes at all, and I will just venture to guess that the majority of them live in those blue areas of urban sprawl, so I really doubt that you have a point here. [Doubtful.](http://psweb.sbs.ohio-state.edu/faculty/hweisberg/conference/lacy-osuconf.pdf) Of course, you’ve handwaved away or simply ignored every other citation you’ve been offered. ---
**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/569 "2010-10-21T20:01:50Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Well, yes. Our system is set up to ensure that _people_ are represented, rather than _land_ Yes, and people live in states, and states are supposed to be able to govern themselves, except where the federal government has its unumerated powers, not one of which is to force us to pay for government retirement or health care. Enter, the Tea Party, which wants to return us to constitutional government. > [@](#): > > Nobody “gets AIDS”. Some people get HIV, which typically develops into AIDS. OK, let me ask you something. If you were coughing your lungs out with pnuemonia and breaking out in purple sores, would ye give a flying fuck whether or not you actually “got” AIDS, or HIV? > [@](#): > > About [35,000 people a year in the US](http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/surveillance/basic.htm), approximately one third of whom are heterosexual, contract HIV. And one-third of whom claim to be hetereosexual. The other two-thirds are smart enough not to bother lying about it. ---
**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/570 "2010-10-21T20:03:08Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > Actually, most of my business is in motor freight. I got a call from a driver last night. One of his axles was 1000# overweight. Now I’m sure that someone here thinks that this driver deserves to give up hundreds of dollars of his hard-earned money for committing such a transgression to the people’s motorway, paid for with Obama money (not IFTA taxes, of course), but… > > He was required by the customer to drive 200 miles without stopping, because he was carrying a high-value load, and > > The customer did not have a scale. Well, so much for personal responsibility. So you claim that you’re in the business of motor freight, but you don’t understand axle load and what it does to the roads? You also loath the government, but at the same time expect them to provide scales and assistance free of charge? Another swing and a miss. ---
**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/571 "2010-10-21T20:05:38Z")
> [@42fish](#): > > In all fairness to **Morella** , if I’d been running an aviation business for 85 years and done so poorly at it that I had to personally put in 30-hours days to keep it afloat, I’d be cranky too. Where did you get the idea that I had been running any business for 85 years? Did it, perhaps, come from the expression “Golden Age of Government Control”? That was a reference to urine testing, which obviously went over some heads. Also, “flying” !=\> “running an aviation business”. !=\> is a way of writing “does not imply”, for those of you who have not taken first-year philosophy or discreet mathematics. Some of you here could definitely use a lesson in logic. ---
**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/572 "2010-10-21T20:07:33Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > \ > > _Another_ lie??? Who would have thought it? I’m shocked- _shocked_ I tell you! > > Or maybe, **Morella** , you expect us to believe you’re over 90 years old? :rolleyes: See my previous post. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/573 "2010-10-21T20:09:11Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > discreet mathematics Awesome. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Weird\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@The\_Weird\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Weird_One)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/574 "2010-10-21T20:15:30Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > And one-third of whom claim to be hetereosexual. The other two-thirds are smart enough not to bother lying about it. :dubious: So you don’t believe that straight people get HIV? And why are you so opposed to paying specifically for AIDS? There are other diseases, too. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/575 "2010-10-21T20:15:42Z")
> [@villa](#): > > I know it is crazy and kinda “out there” but wouldn’t the sensible solution be to stop posting for three minutes and go pee? I was waiting for a reply to an email. I’ve peed now, though, so you’re all clear to be funny again. ---
**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/576 "2010-10-21T20:16:46Z")
> [@The\_Weird\_One](#): > > :dubious: So you don’t believe that straight people get HIV? > > And why are you so opposed to paying specifically for AIDS? There are other diseases, too. It is pretty much unprovable. If anyone who gets HIV says they are straight, they are actually lying and are gay. Prove it to me otherwise. Even those hemophiliacs and others who received tainted blood transfusions were probably taking it up the ass on the side. ---
**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/577 "2010-10-21T20:17:52Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > I was waiting for a reply to an email. I’ve peed now, though, so you’re all clear to be funny again. I’m all humored out, sorry. But I do need to pee as well. ---
**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/578 "2010-10-21T20:20:18Z")
> [@villa](#): > > I’m all humored out, sorry. But I do need to pee as well. Careful you don’t get the AIDS. ---
**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/579 "2010-10-21T20:26:49Z")
Well I wasn’t planning on having gay sex, but I guess I will wear a rubber in case. Not sure how I am going to pee though. ---
**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2010, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/580 "2010-10-21T20:31:43Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Do you believe a given person’s vote should count any different based on where he/she lives? Well, let’s stop and think about what is good for the nation, and why the Founding Fathers set things up the way they did. In urban areas, where the majority of people are concentrated, what are the people’s priorities? Finding food that someone else grows and processes, finding water that someone else purifies, having police there to help when they’re needed, and not there at every other time, having electricity that someone else generates, sewer service as long as it goes somewhere else, trash services as long as it goes somewhere else, buying things like furniture, electronics, and computers that are made somewhere else…there’s a start. Now, if the majority of people, who live in the city, control the government, who represents the people who grow and process the food, purify the water, protect and serve the people, generate the electricity, process the sewage, dump the trash, and work in the factories? _Personne, mon ami_. That’s why everything is all fucked up. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760.md?page=28) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760.md?page=30)