# The Tea Party is not socially conservative my ass

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 11, 2010, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760 "2010-10-11T06:09:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/701 "2010-10-22T03:58:55Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Except for the fourteenth amendment. And the first amendment. And all the other amendments they don’t like, and all the new ones they wish were in there. Yeah, they like the constitution just fine.

What tea partiers have suggested doing away with the fourteenth amendment?

What amendments do they wish were in there?

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/702 "2010-10-22T04:04:21Z")

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> [@CannyDan](#):
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> Your comments about airline staff are disgustingly insulting because they are untrue. They are as ridiculous as all the other bullshit statements you’ve made in this thread.

Oh, horseshit! I worked in freight, baggage and operations for Continental Airlines in 1970 and '71. We were not a destination terminal but sometimes due to weather or whatever planes would have to land and stay overnight. Half an hour or so after the plane landed and deplaned its passengers and crew, one of our guys was sent to vacuum out the plane and caught one of the stewardesses and one of the pilots banging like bunnies in the aisle right outside the cockpit. The girl looked up and him, smiled, and said “It’s okay; we’re engaged.” 😃 Plus one of my best friends became a DPS (director of passenger service), whose job it was to supervise the stewardesses and take care of passenger needs like phone calls and reservations and things like that. He eventually lost his job because he kept getting drunk and shacking up in hotel rooms with stewardesses and missing flights. So please spare us this shit about how pristine was the behavior of airline personnel in those days.

> [@CannyDan](#):
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> Especially if you’re the pilot!! “Hey, stew, bring me another scotch and soda and a pack of Marlboro. Oh, and how about unbuttoning a couple of buttons on that blouse before you come back to the cockpit, huh cutie?”
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> Ah, the good old days!

Ah, “more horseshit”, you mean. Remember how in the good old days women would slap men for shit like that? Yeah, it happened. And often. To listen to posters around here a person would think you’d find a woman being raped or a black guy hung from a lamppost on every corner prior to the late sixties. And it’s all horseshit, propagated by people like you who take isolated instances and portray them as having been commonplace until hippies came along and saved everyone. And I can tell you without the slightest fear of factual contradiction that thanks to single-parenthood and drugs and a culture that raises a fair percentage of males to regard women as “ho’s” and “bitches”, a many more women are treated badly, taken advantage of and have to put up with crap and live shitty lives than was ever the case back in the days when people in this country knew how to behave themselves.

> [@emacknight](#):
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> There is something so beautifully ridiculous about a minority female remember the early 60’s fondly.

There are minority males who remember the early 60’s fondly too. Blacks of that era protested in dress shirts and ties and nice Sunday dresses, wanting only to be treated fairly and equally in the nicer society that existed then. They never asked for nor would have wanted the drug-and-gang-and-gangsta-rap-and-violent-crime-ridden environment that they have to live in and try to raise children in today.

> [@Lobohan](#):
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> Your taxes are a cost of doing business. Your competitors pay the same taxes.

If nothing else - and there’s plenty that is - this alone illustrates your lack of intelligence. Taxes are not a cost of doing business, they are a separate expense entirely, imposed arbitrarily and in different ways and amounts by a variety of state, local and federal agencies. Plus some businesses are allowed favorable tax treatment whenever the government wants to promote certain types of investment and/or hiring activity, while other are taxed more heavily when the government wants to penalize or reduce other types of activity and investment. The size and influence of a particular company (or lack of same) can also affect the percentage of tax they pay and the circumstances under which they pay it.

> [@Ludovic](#):
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> Yup, the federal government should keep its hands off their Medicare.

And here we have yet another ridiculous liberal meme. It’s utter nonsense to contend that people who have been forced by the government to pay into retirement programs such as Social Security and Medicare all their lives, and who therefore have been deprived of the funds they would have needed to provide this care for themselves, should suddenly and eager disavow them at the very point in their lives when they’re going to be needing them, because they are of an anti-entitlement political philosophy. Having been given the choice forty or forty-five years ago I’m sure many if not most of them would have opted to live their lives in such a way as to provide for their own old age. But since the government took that option away, they’re left with no alternative but to use Social Security and Medicare when they reach the age when they’ll need it, and of course they’ll resist efforts to cut back on the benefits they’ve been promised all their lives they would get when they reach retirement age. Thus, this in no way means that Tea Partiers or any other conservative is being hypocrital when they lobby for reduced government spending and entitlement programs while still insisting on what they’ve been promised for having had to give up a substantial portion of their income for all their working lives.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/703 "2010-10-22T04:10:54Z")

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> [@Morella](#):
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> As you can see, hiring an employee is always a risk, but as the tax rate goes up, it becomes less and less attractive.

If you didn’t want to take risks, you shouldn’t have started a business.

Consider this, now is the perfect time to hire someone. Unemployment is high; you could have your pick of lots of good people who are job-hunting, and they’d be more inclined to accept a lower salary.

And your “suppose we go with 50%” is too high, I think. The top marginal income tax rate right now is 35%, and if they rolled things back to where they were ten years ago, it would still only be 39.6%.

I’m sure a smart businesswoman like you could make it work, or is that 4.6% really a deal breaker for you?

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/704 "2010-10-22T04:11:42Z")

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> [@Morella](#):
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> What tea partiers have suggested doing away with the fourteenth amendment?

[Birthright citizenship.](http://teapartyamerica.blogspot.com/2010/08/change-14th-amendment-no-more-anchor.html)

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> What amendments do they wish were in there?

[Amendment to repeal the sixteenth amendment (income tax)](http://www2.dailyprogress.com/news/2010/oct/08/tea-party-convention-devises-constitutional-amendm-ar-551858/)

[In tea party speech, McDonnell backs ‘repeal amendment’](http://hamptonroads.com/2010/10/tea-party-speech-mcdonnell-backs-repeal-amendment)

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> Gov. Bob McDonnell told tea party activists Friday that he’ll support a proposed U.S. constitutional amendment that would give states the collective power to repeal any federal law or regulation they don’t like.

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[The Spending Limit Amendment](http://www.redstate.com/erick/2010/03/04/a-real-tea-party-worthy-amendment-to-the-constitution/) would keep spending as a percentage of GDP at the historical average since World War II

There are dozens more ill-considered Tea Party amendments to bastardize the constitution into a document the Founders would never recognize, but you get the idea.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/705 "2010-10-22T04:12:20Z")

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> [@Morella](#):
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> Do you remember the 60’s, before the hippies were taken seriously? Back then, you dressed up nice to get onto an airplane, you could smoke, and drink, and in the bigger airplanes, you got real food. It was so sweet. You used to be able to go and buy a new car, you could choose between luxury and sportiness, and you could be proud of what you bought. These days, you have to buy a government-approved pinch-nose plastic jellybean, unless, like me, you choose to have your old 70’s cars rebuilt. You didn’t have to walk around on eggshells worrying about offending someone in the 60’s. Movies didn’t have to be socially acceptable. Romance was everywhere…

Yeah, I remember America before the 60’s. People dressed up to travel, even on the bus. They were polite and considerate and road rage was unheard of. Drugs were something most people were only vaguely aware of and we could educate our children.

Yep, that’s the way things were…and we _liked_ it that way! 🆒

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/706 "2010-10-22T04:16:29Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Yeah, I remember America before the 60’s. People dressed up to travel, even on the bus.

And at the bus station, you could get a Negro to shine your shoes for a nickel!

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/707 "2010-10-22T04:17:16Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> To listen to posters around here a person would think you’d find a woman being raped or a black guy hung from a lamppost on every corner prior to the late sixties.

How many lynchings would you consider to be an acceptable number?

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**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/708 "2010-10-22T04:23:29Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> If you didn’t want to take risks, you shouldn’t have started a business.

What a stupid comment.

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> Consider this, now is the perfect time to hire someone. Unemployment is high; you could have your pick of lots of good people who are job-hunting, and they’d be more inclined to accept a lower salary.

Nope, no way. Until I see what is going to happen, whether or not the legitimate government is going to be restored to the United States, I am not going to make any changes to the business. If the tax rate is favorable, and Obamacare is repealed, then I will consider hiring. And every other employer I’ve talked to feels the same way.

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> And your “suppose we go with 50%” is too high, I think. The top marginal income tax rate right now is 35%, and if they rolled things back to where they were ten years ago, it would still only be 39.6%.

That’s still much too high, and you haven’t even talked about capital gains.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/709 "2010-10-22T04:28:29Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> And at the bus station, you could get a Negro to shine your shoes for a nickel!

What, people never got their shoes shined until black people hit American shores? People got their shoes shined by whoever was offering to do it, including a great many white kids and adults. I remember shoe shine stands from my childhood and they were a pretty equal opportunity business.

> [@Robot Arm](#):
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> How many lynchings would you consider to be an acceptable number?

None. How many drug and gang-related killings and drive-by shootings would you consider to be an acceptable number?

I can tell you that if I were a black person, I’d feel a hell of a lot safer, and more positive about the likelihood of seeing my children grow safely to adulthood, in 1960 than I would now.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/710 "2010-10-22T04:29:19Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Yeah, I remember America before the 60’s. People dressed up to travel, even on the bus. They were polite and considerate and road rage was unheard of. Drugs were something most people were only vaguely aware of and we could educate our children.
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> Yep, that’s the way things were…and we _liked_ it that way! 🆒

I know what you mean. We can’t bust heads like we used to. But we have our ways. One trick is to tell stories that don’t go anywhere. Like the time I caught the ferry to Shelbyville. I needed a new heel for m’shoe. So I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt. Which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on 'em. Gimme five bees for a quarter, you’d say. Now where was I… oh yeah. The important thing was that I had an onion tied to my belt, which was the style at the time. You couldn’t get white onions, because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones…

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/711 "2010-10-22T04:31:32Z")

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> [@Morella](#):
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> What a stupid comment.

Let me guess. You only insult people who insult you first, right?

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> Nope, no way. Until I see what is going to happen, whether or not the legitimate government is going to be restored to the United States, I am not going to make any changes to the business.

“Legitimate government is going to be restored…”? Please tell us all if the current government is illegitimate.

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> That’s still much too high, and you haven’t even talked about capital gains.

You’re still only being taxed on the gain. If you really believe you can make money, go out and make some.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/712 "2010-10-22T04:34:21Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> None. How many drug and gang-related killings and drive-by shootings would you consider to be an acceptable number?

Also none. I’m hopeful that as this country continues to change and improve that such crimes will become rarer.

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**Author:** ![CannyDan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cannydan/32/548_2.png) [@CannyDan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CannyDan)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/713 "2010-10-22T04:37:18Z")

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You really are amazingly albeit transparently disingenuous. In post 636 you exclaim “IF TAXES ARE LOWER, BUSINESSES CAN AFFORD TO HIRE MORE PEOPLE”. With this in mind your post 699 makes absolutely no sense, except to prove that you don’t understand the difference between costs and profits.

You seem to enjoy talking out of both sides of your mouth. You start with a comment about a Golden Age suggesting you are fairly old. When called on it by posters pointing out that you’d have to be, not old, but ancient, you turn it around and claim to be not old at all. But again, in response to my post, you’re back to old enough to have participated in the 1960’s. Which is it?

Similarly you rant against gays. But when criticized you intimate that you might have a tiny gay streak yourself. Or were we to draw some other conclusion from your comment about the appearance of tacos? But of course you then go back to ranting about gays and calling **emack** a faggot. Not nicely, mind you, but as a pejorative.

You make a claim to be of “mixed race” to bolster your assertion that you don’t mean anything ugly by wanting to kill all “illegals” out of hand. But then it turns out that you’re actually of mixed _northern European white_ races. Hardly what most people understand to be mixed race, especially given the context and the discussions of Mexicans.

I could go on, but I’m lazy and your entertainment value is running thin. There’s a name for what you’re doing, but we all see it so no harm no foul. If you can put a bit more effort into it, you might achieve the level of some of our long time Board stars, such as **Starving Artist**. Why, speak of the devil, there he is now! Still flogging his one trick pony, but pleased no doubt to find you, a fellow traveler on the road of condemning liberals for 1964. I think I’ll sit back and watch the stupidity for a while. Stereo stupid! Now there’s a 60’s technology to pine for!

ETA-- oh, and PS, you still haven’t told me what the tax rate was in those halcyon days before hippies destroyed the country in 1964.

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**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/714 "2010-10-22T04:38:37Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> [Birthright citizenship.](http://teapartyamerica.blogspot.com/2010/08/change-14th-amendment-no-more-anchor.html)

OK, now the truth comes out. They’re not interested in repealing the 14th amendment that ended slavery. They want to end the misinterpretation of part of the 14th amendment that is allowing anchor babies to become citizens, the same misinterpretation that Obama is using to claim US citizenship.

[Amendment to repeal the sixteenth amendment (income tax)](http://www2.dailyprogress.com/news/2010/oct/08/tea-party-convntion-devises-constitutional-amendm-ar-551858/)

I wish them the best of luck in repealing income tax, since the next 100 years’ worth of it is already spent.

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> There are dozens more ill-considered Tea Party amendments to bastardize the constitution into a document the Founders would never recognize, but you get the idea.

Umm…if they took some of the amendments out, wouldn’t that make it more recognizable?

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**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/715 "2010-10-22T04:42:31Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> Let me guess. You only insult people who insult you first, right?

I didn’t insult you. I insulted your comment.

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> “Legitimate government is going to be restored…”? Please tell us all if the current government is illegitimate.

Yes, it is. The president isn’t even a US citizen.

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> You’re still only being taxed on the gain. If you really believe you can make money, go out and make some.

It’s happening, as we speak.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/716 "2010-10-22T04:42:52Z")

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> [@Morella](#):
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> OK, now the truth comes out. They’re not interested in repealing the 14th amendment that ended slavery. They want to end the misinterpretation of part of the 14th amendment that is allowing anchor babies to become citizens, the same misinterpretation that Obama is using to claim US citizenship.

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> All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

That doesn’t strike me as being open to a lot of interpretation.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/717 "2010-10-22T04:47:28Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> What, people never got their shoes shined until black people hit American shores? People got their shoes shined by whoever was offering to do it, including a great many white kids and adults. I remember shoe shine stands from my childhood and they were a pretty equal opportunity business..

How many times does this have to be hammered home? It was good for a certain section of society. But it was also really bad for another section. When we started integrating (and not just racially), the good group went down, but the bad group went up. But then it was finally possible to improve things for everyone.

I mean, I’m all for bringing back politeness. It’s what political correctness tried to do. You can’t do it the old way, because that requires homogeneity of culture. We’ve got to get people to agree on what is and is not polite before we can implement it.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/718 "2010-10-22T04:49:43Z")

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> [@Euphonious Polemic](#):
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> I know what you mean. We can’t bust heads like we used to. But we have our ways. One trick is to tell stories that don’t go anywhere. Like the time I caught the ferry to Shelbyville. I needed a new heel for m’shoe. So I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt. Which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on 'em. Gimme five bees for a quarter, you’d say. Now where was I… oh yeah. The important thing was that I had an onion tied to my belt, which was the style at the time. You couldn’t get white onions, because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones…

You know, a lot of people got cheesed off at me around here once for quoting shit without attribution. “Plagiarism” is what they called it. Yep, they did! Now, I didn’t mean nothin’ by it, it was just a email I got that never had on it who wrote it. But still, the high-minders of the Dope wouldn’t have none of it. Said I was tryin’ ta trick ‘em, they did. Said I was bein’ dishonest, and one of 'em even called my sister a cunt…‘cause she was the one what sent it to me. But she never knew who wrote it neither, ‘cause someone else sent it to her and it never said who wrote it to them neither. And so on and so on and so on. Yep, it was lack of attribution all the way down. Still, it didn’t make no difference! Now, around here I imagine that just about everyone who knows anything about anything knows every word of everything that ever got said on that cartoon show. Still it just don’t seem kosher for you to be actin’ all literary and shit when you ain’t. You know, just sayin’ is all…

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**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/719 "2010-10-22T04:51:31Z")

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> [@CannyDan](#):
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> You really are amazingly albeit transparently disingenuous. In post 636 you exclaim “IF TAXES ARE LOWER, BUSINESSES CAN AFFORD TO HIRE MORE PEOPLE”. With this in mind your post 699 makes absolutely no sense, except to prove that you don’t understand the difference between costs and profits.

What part didn’t you understand? I tried not to use any big words.

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> You seem to enjoy talking out of both sides of your mouth. You start with a comment about a Golden Age suggesting you are fairly old.

hehe I started with a comment about the Golden Age, referring to urine testing, which people misinterpreted to mean something else. This was explained about a hundred messages or so ago.

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> Similarly you rant against gays. But when criticized you intimate that you might have a tiny gay streak yourself. Or were we to draw some other conclusion from your comment about the appearance of tacos?

I dunno…someone else drew the conclusion that I was a botched sex change operation…not quite sure where that came from, but you guys have pulled some amazing shit out of the air in an effort to discredit me.

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> But of course you then go back to ranting about gays and calling **emack** a faggot. Not nicely, mind you, but as a pejorative.

The “faggot” comment was in response to his idiotic whining about how abusive I was being…as compared to the insults I have received here? It was appropriate.

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> You make a claim to be of “mixed race” to bolster your assertion that you don’t mean anything ugly by wanting to kill all “illegals” out of hand. But then it turns out that you’re actually of mixed _northern European white_ races.

How does that turn out? I haven’t said what races I was mixed of. You’re not just assuming something, are you?

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> Hardly what most people understand to be mixed race, especially given the context and the discussions of Mexicans.

Where did the Mexican thing come from? I thought we were talking about Arabs?

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> I could go on, but I’m lazy and your entertainment value is running thin.

Yes, you are lazy. You haven’t even read this thread, and you’re trying to summarize it.

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> ETA-- oh, and PS, you still haven’t told me what the tax rate was in those halcyon days before hippies destroyed the country in 1964.

Look it up.

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> I didn’t insult you. I insulted your comment.

Good lord! It’s **Starving Artist** all over again.

Really? That’s the defense you’re going to make; that’s a reply that you’re willing to post here for all to see? You think the comment is stupid. You think that arrangement of words is lacking in cognitive faculties somehow. Those words would be lucky to even get a GED, and will probably be forced into some menial job just to afford even the most basic punctuation.

You said my comment was stupid, but you didn’t mean to insult me. You’re really going to stand by that?

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> It’s happening, as we speak.

Good, now hire some people to help you go out and make more.

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