# The Tea Party is not socially conservative my ass **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 11, 2010, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760 "2010-10-11T06:09:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 38
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/741 "2010-10-22T08:08:36Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Ah, **Lobohan’s** son (or little brother?) has decided to join the fray. We welcome your faux-intellectual, ivory-tower superiority and the insults with which you attempt to convey it. > > And then we laugh at you behind your back. 😃 > > Oh, wait…no, we don’t! We laugh in your face! Yeah, that’s it! What was I thinking? :smack: You’re defending someone who doesn’t know that the president is an American. Someone that stupid and uninformed. Think about this you ancient sack of shit. Actually try to think. Look around and smell the pigs you’re laying with. Morella isn’t a conservative. She or he isn’t someone you should be defending. She or he is a wretched barely sentient animal. A fucking dog. Why do you feel you need to reflexively defend such garbage? Are you really so unthinking and robotic? Even you, even someone so partisan and binary must see that you’re not on the side of angels here. Don’t you? ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/742 "2010-10-22T08:27:06Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > Are you really so unthinking and robotic? Hey! ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 8:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/743 "2010-10-22T08:28:38Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Hey! I meant no 'arm. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/744 "2010-10-22T08:42:07Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > In the sixties hardly anyone knew a wiseguy personally, and so little was known about the inner workings of the Mafia and who was actually in it that the Mafia itself was trying to claim with a straight face that it didn’t even exist. To the degree that the average American knew anything about the Mafia at all, it was generally due to impressions created by television programs such as _The Untouchables_. The Mafia had no impact whatsoever upon the way people lived and conducted themselves then, nor upon societal standards of the time. Are you saying that because most people didn’t know mafiosi directly that the american mafia had no influence in society during the 60s? :dubious: Again, just off the top of my head I can point the noxious influence the mafia had in unions… which is funny because I’m quite sure I’ve seen you ranting about unions more than once. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 9:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/745 "2010-10-22T09:59:49Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > How many times does this have to be hammered home? It was good for a certain section of society. But it was also really bad for another section. When we started integrating (and not just racially), the good group went down, but the bad group went up. But then it was finally possible to improve things for everyone. > > I mean, I’m all for bringing back politeness. It’s what political correctness tried to do. You can’t do it the old way, because that requires homogeneity of culture. We’ve got to get people to agree on what is and is not polite before we can implement it. Sorry to have overlooked your post, **BigT**. I’ll try to get back to it tomorrow. I’ve got a doctor’s appt. tomorrow morning and am under the influence of Ambien right now, which for some reason isn’t keeping me alseep but still feeling woozy. So I don’t think I could post much of a post right now. I’ll try to get back to it sometime tomorrow after dr.s apointments and subsequent errands after that. As for now I’m gonna take a stab at more sleep. ---
**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/746 "2010-10-22T10:35:23Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > I meant what i said. Your stupidity on this issue warrants you being treated like a backwards child. So run along and play in the street. And wear this hockey helmet. This is supposed to explain why Obama Hussein Sr. was subject to the jurisdiction of the United States? I asked a very specific question here, and the fact that you cannot answer it does not make **me** stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/747 "2010-10-22T10:37:00Z")
> [@Oldeb](#): > > The point being that you’ve long since disconnected from reality. On the plus side, **Morella** , you can always take comfort in being right. It’s not like anybody is ever going to convince you otherwise. This is your chance to convince me right now. Why was Hussein Sr. subject to the jurisdiction of the United States? ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 10:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/748 "2010-10-22T10:39:04Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > You’re defending someone who doesn’t know that the president is an American. Someone that stupid and uninformed. > > Think about this you ancient sack of shit. Actually try to think. Look around and smell the pigs you’re laying with. Morella isn’t a conservative. She or he isn’t someone you should be defending. She or he is a wretched barely sentient animal. A fucking dog. > > Why do you feel you need to reflexively defend such garbage? Are you really so unthinking and robotic? Even you, even someone so partisan and binary must see that you’re not on the side of angels here. Don’t you? Well, frankly there are some certain areas where I’m simpatico with **morella** , but in poin of fact I was responding to **mhendo** himself and not defending the poster he was talking to. His posts bear such a striking similarily in tone and insult that they’ve become pretty much generic and could be applied to anybody. This is why I failed even to notice who he was talking to. And I’m hardly ancient, either. And most certainly not when compared with you. In fact, based upon our releative lifestyles and energy levels I’d guess I’m younger than you are. Care to reveal your true age and find out? But I’ll have to learn the answer tomorrow. I took another half tablet of Ambien and am beginning to fade. G’night. ---
**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 10:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/749 "2010-10-22T10:41:13Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > The same people who were impressionable children in the 20’s and 30’s grew up to be adults in the 50’s and 60’s. They couldn’t help but be warped by all the flappers and the swing music. There were so many people experimenting with illicit alcohol that they actually pushed for and got it legalized. The carnage on our roads continues to this day. Your mother must have dropped you on your head! ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/750 "2010-10-22T10:49:55Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > This is supposed to explain why Obama Hussein Sr. was subject to the jurisdiction of the United States? > > I asked a very specific question here, and the fact that you cannot answer it does not make **me** stupid. Are you suggesting that Obama had no mother and therefore sprang from his father’s forehead via some form of parthenogenesis? 'Cause that’d be _awesome_. ---
**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/751 "2010-10-22T11:05:25Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Are you suggesting that Obama had no mother and therefore sprang from his father’s forehead via some form of parthenogenesis? > > 'Cause that’d be _awesome_. His mother was a minor. Whether or not she was a US citizen, I don’t know. What amazes me is, here I am, open-minded, asking questions from you people, ignoring your insults, giving you an opportunity to educate me, and all you can do is call me stupid. Who is really coming across as stupid here? ---
**Author:** ![tagos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@tagos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tagos)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 11:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/752 "2010-10-22T11:24:38Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > Who is really coming across as stupid here? When your position is such that only Starving Artist is on your side the question pretty much answers itself. Anyone who thinks The President is not American is, by definition, stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/753 "2010-10-22T11:29:24Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > This is supposed to explain why Obama Hussein Sr. was subject to the jurisdiction of the United States? > > I asked a very specific question here, and the fact that you cannot answer it does not make **me** stupid. No, but the fact that you’ve asked it _does._ ---
**Author:** ![Gustav](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/919ad9/32.png) [@Gustav](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gustav)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/754 "2010-10-22T11:30:09Z")
It’s fine to ask questions, but that one is REALLY easy to google. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/755 "2010-10-22T11:31:02Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > His mother was a minor. Whether or not she was a US citizen, I don’t know. > > What amazes me is, here I am, open-minded, asking questions from you people, ignoring your insults, giving you an opportunity to educate me, and all you can do is call me stupid. Who is really coming across as stupid here? It’s really too bad we can’t have polls in The BBQ Pit, isn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/756 "2010-10-22T11:37:42Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > His mother was a minor. Why would U.S. law penalize a child because his mother is too young? That seems to be zeroing in on the letter of a law rather than the spirit to a rather ridiculous degree. But then, this whole discussion may be off-topic for this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/757 "2010-10-22T11:39:42Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > Why would U.S. law penalize a child because his mother is too young? That seems to be zeroing in on the letter of a law rather than the spirit to a rather ridiculous degree. > > But then, this whole discussion may be off-topic for this thread. I’d say it’s totally on topic. We have an honest-to-og teabagger and birther here. Choice of seating and light snack of choice was never more apropos. ---
**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/758 "2010-10-22T11:54:09Z")
> [@tagos](#): > > When your position is such that only Starving Artist is on your side the question pretty much answers itself. > > Anyone who thinks The President is not American is, by definition, stupid. Has anyone informed Webster’s of this change? ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/759 "2010-10-22T11:56:34Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > This is supposed to explain why Obama Hussein Sr. was subject to the jurisdiction of the United States? What makes you think Kenyans are not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States? Are they immune from prosecution if they commit crimes here? ---
**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/760 "2010-10-22T12:01:12Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > I’d say it’s totally on topic. We have an honest-to-og teabagger and birther here. Choice of seating and light snack of choice was never more apropos. You have neither. I asked a question about Obama’s citizenship, a question which has obviously made a lot of people uncomfortable. I see this same reaction in religious forums, when a question is posed that makes people question their faith in their god-thing. Did you vote a Kenyan Muslim into the White House, at a time when we’re at war with Muslims? That would have been one stupid-assed mistake, wouldn’t it? As for the term “birther”, I have found that it refers to people who question Obama’s birth certificate, which I have not done, despite its questionability. I asked a well-documented, straightforward question, and none of you can answer it. I’m not the one who is being stupid here. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760.md?page=37) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760.md?page=39)