# The Tea Party is not socially conservative my ass **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 11, 2010, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760 "2010-10-11T06:09:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 42
**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/821 "2010-10-22T15:59:16Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > Is he, in fact, a Kenyan muslim, or is this level of stupidity too much even for you? Why not just let Barry speak for himself? [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/tCAffMSWSzY/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEmCOADEOgC8quKqQMa8AEB-AH-BIAC4AOKAgwIABABGH8gEygUMA8=&rs=AOn4CLCbdAFSSCCRLPEYdkOydpUaucCL6w "Obama Admits He Is A Muslim") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCAffMSWSzY) ---
**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/822 "2010-10-22T16:03:20Z")
Shouldn’t you be in Vega now? Or was that a reference to your Sims character? Tell me again, how much was spent on Chinese Windmills? Wait, did you just ask if I knew anything about my President? Do you mean actually know or pretend to know based on retarded conspiracy theories? ---
**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/823 "2010-10-22T16:05:24Z")
> [@emacknight](#): > > Soon Mexicans and Muslims are going to demand their own set of rights, rights that were once and properly only reserved for white men. I thought we decided that Muslims were white, or is that one still open for discussion? ---
**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/824 "2010-10-22T16:09:16Z")
> [@emacknight](#): > > Shouldn’t you be in Vega now? Or was that a reference to your Sims character? I think you mean “Vegas”. I don’t get out to the moons much. I will leave when I’m ready to, and then you guys can have at least a few hours, maybe a day, to spout your bullshit without contest, which seems to be what you want. What is a “Sims character”? > [@](#): > > Tell me again, how much was spent on Chinese Windmills? Nearly all of the “green stimulus” money. > [@](#): > > Wait, did you just ask if I knew anything about my President? This is your president. [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/yaKeWwE0t7E/hqdefault.jpg "Obama Prays with Muslims White House He Cancels National Day of Prayer") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaKeWwE0t7E) ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/825 "2010-10-22T16:12:58Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaKeWwE0t7E&feature=related](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaKeWwE0t7E&feature=related) I don’t know about the rest of you, but I’m convinced. ---
**Author:** ![Eutychus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Eutychus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eutychus)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/826 "2010-10-22T16:19:27Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > I don’t know about the rest of you, but I’m convinced. As for myself, I just wasted 10 minutes of my life watching a video that was so heavily edited and quote mined that it was impossible to even guess at any context the redacted parts might point to. Honestly … it was like listening to a record skip, it was that bad. ---
**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/827 "2010-10-22T16:21:30Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > I don’t know about the rest of you, but I’m convinced. Are you? Because I have more. [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/x8c8S234klA/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEmCOADEOgC8quKqQMa8AEB-AHeA4AC6AKKAgwIABABGH8gEygVMA8=&rs=AOn4CLABpixEUH7ULSAYdzEwXwHM5KSC8w "Obama Admits He Is A Muslim") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8c8S234klA) [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/FH_jYyhAqM4/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEmCOADEOgC8quKqQMa8AEB-AG-AoAC8AGKAgwIABABGGUgZShTMA8=&rs=AOn4CLAL58_8lrKIHJeEB0okzKcmZqQNCQ "Obama - Is He Still a Muslim?") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH_jYyhAqM4) I love this next one, where he denies that he was raised in a Muslim home, after having bragged about it in a speech! [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/0GFKqOf8EHQ/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEmCOADEOgC8quKqQMa8AEB-AH-BIAC4AOKAgwIABABGFQgVihlMA8=&rs=AOn4CLAiR7G5x5VfLBI7T6emiVcV4brz-Q "Is Obama Muslim Or not ?? The answer is here") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GFKqOf8EHQ) How much more evidence do you need? The man is a Muslim, and a liar. That’s not my opinion, it’s right from his lips. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/828 "2010-10-22T16:23:54Z")
Oh _good_. Youtube cites. And they’re the classic CT kind too, where all that’s given is the link with no explanation. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/829 "2010-10-22T16:24:18Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > Are you? No. ---
**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/830 "2010-10-22T16:26:43Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > No. Do you have something to say about the evidence that I presented? If you can still say that Obama is not a Muslim, you’re just putting your head up your ass. ---
**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/831 "2010-10-22T16:29:10Z")
Sometimes, I wish I could live in a world of fantasy and pretend. Although, if I did it, I’d pick a world that didn’t make me so angry about everything. Why go through the trouble of pretending taxes bought Chinese windmills. Why not pretend that pixie dust bought American Made ™ unicorns? Why go through the trouble of pretending the President is a secret Kenyan Muslim. I’d pretend he was a government operative working for the Chinese. Who sent a robot back in time to impregnate Stanley Ann Dunham, so that some day her son could run for and then win the general election of the United States. But knowing that a Muslim Keyan woudn’t be legitimate, they sent a second robot back in time to falsify documents and birth records. And there is no way he’d win an election fairly, so they sent a THIRD robot back in time to commit voter fraud and intimidation. ---
**Author:** ![CannyDan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cannydan/32/548_2.png) [@CannyDan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CannyDan)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/832 "2010-10-22T16:36:16Z")
> [@emacknight](#): > > It’s at this point that I always feel so sorry for cranky old conservatives. > > The world is only going to get more liberal. Government is only going to get bigger. Taxes are only going to get hire. > > It’s inevitable that soon gays will be allowed to marry their turtle, and the government will have to pay for their new gay disease that they caught having butt sex with turtles. > > Soon Mexicans and Muslims are going to demand their own set of rights, rights that were once and properly only reserved for white men. > > It won’t be long before China owns us all and puts up their windmills everywhere, and then puts everyone on welfare. > > And to make things worse, liberals keep confusing conservatives but misleading them. Tricking them into thinking evolution is the same as abiogenisis. Who knows what else we’ve tricked them into believing. > > In the end, it’s our fault that **Morella** is the way she claims to be. Conservatives can’t be held accountable or at fault. All those stupid hippies screwed everything up. Conservatives post the way they do because other posters are so obnoxiously liberal. They have no choice. Remember choice, such a dirty word. > > What’s important to remember is that they’re not stupid. They’re actually intelligent because they base their evidence on opinions, that’s what intelligent people do. And as a result, they simply have a different opinion, neither right, nor wrong, just different. > > If only you’d turn off your liberal elitism and ivy league logical thought process, you’d realize that the President isn’t American, and taxes are unconstitutional. Both positions that are easy to prove, except that proof is for math and alcohol. > > Government should abide by the constitution, except for the parts they don’t like, which they should change because those parts are wrong. Winner!!! ---
**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/833 "2010-10-22T16:36:18Z")
> [@emacknight](#): > > Sometimes, I wish I could live in a world of fantasy and pretend. Although, if I did it, I’d pick a world that didn’t make me so angry about everything. > > Why go through the trouble of pretending taxes bought Chinese windmills. Why not pretend that pixie dust bought American Made ™ unicorns? > > Why go through the trouble of pretending the President is a secret Kenyan Muslim. I’d pretend he was a government operative working for the Chinese. Who sent a robot back in time to impregnate Stanley Ann Dunham, so that some day her son could run for and then win the general election of the United States. But knowing that a Muslim Keyan woudn’t be legitimate, they sent a second robot back in time to falsify documents and birth records. And there is no way he’d win an election fairly, so they sent a THIRD robot back in time to commit voter fraud and intimidation. Many people retreat into a fantasy world when reality becomes too much for them, such as when they put faith in someone and later find out that he is not everything they thought he was. Enjoy your fantasy world, my friend. ---
**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/834 "2010-10-22T16:39:00Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > Do you have something to say about the evidence that I presented? If you can still say that Obama is not a Muslim, you’re just putting your head up your ass. Can’t we just have differing opinions? You say Obama is a Kenyan Muslim, I say he’s a Chinese robot from the future. Why else would he tax you to death to buy all those Chinese windmills??? They’re probably not even windmills! I heard they were actually atomic weapons, strategically placed throughout the windy areas of the US. If you notice, the height of a wind turbine is 30m, the exact height used during Trinity testing which I heard Obama sold to the Chinese. Neither of us have proof because intelligent people don’t need proof, we have our opinions. The problem with your theory is that it only targets the retarded white hillbilly segment of the population, which wouldn’t have voted Democrat with or without a secret Muslim Kenyan. Switch it to secret Muslim Robot and you can start to corner the younger sci-fi crowd. Then offer tax cuts for comic books, and movie tickets. See, that’s how you build a broad spectrum political base. If you’re going to lie, lie big. And since we’re now posting random youtube clips, here’s the master telling us what Obama really thinks: > **[johnny5k](https://www.youtube.com/user/johnny5k)** > > Share your videos with friends, family, and the world And here > **[Stewart Teaches MSNBC To Selectively Edit Clips Like Fox News](https://crooksandliars.com/david/stewart-how-msnbc-can-selectively-edit-clips)** > > MSNBC could learn a thing or two from Fox News. > > Comedy Central's Jon Stewart noted Thursday that the left leaning network was moderating their praise for President Barack Obama. On the other hand, Fox News hasn't held back with their ---
**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/835 "2010-10-22T16:40:01Z")
> [@CannyDan](#): > > Winner!!! Sweet! ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/836 "2010-10-22T16:40:03Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > Why not just let Barry speak for himself? > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCAffMSWSzY](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCAffMSWSzY) You are simply too stupid to breathe. There is no evidence in that video at all that Obama admits to being a Muslim, or that he admits to being a anything but a United States citizen. In fact, despite the title of the video “Obama Admits He Is A Muslim,” the creators go out of their way to state, before the video even begins, that: > [@](#): > > Legal Disclaimer: The writers, producers, editors, and publishers of this video are not stating, claiming, or implying that Barack Hussein Obama is a Muslim, or that Obama himself claimed or admitted to being a Muslim. What a bunch of weaseling cowards. Not only are they lying in their own disclaimer, but if Obama truly did admit to being a Muslim, they wouldn’t even need the disclaimer because, in the United States, truth is an absolute defense to a defamation action. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/837 "2010-10-22T16:42:52Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > Do you have something to say about the evidence that I presented? Only this: > [@](#): > > And just in case someone is actually stupid enough to quote what I just said in a serious context (it’s happened), it is not intended as such. ---
**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/838 "2010-10-22T16:44:44Z")
> [@emacknight](#): > > (fantasy bullshit deleted) > > The problem with your theory is that it only targets the retarded white hillbilly segment of the population, which wouldn’t have voted Democrat with or without a secret Muslim Kenyan. Yes, people who are retarded because they don’t agree with you. I think we’ve done that one to death, haven’t we? (more fantasy bullshit quote deleted) > [@](#): > > And since we’re now posting random youtube clips, here’s the master telling us what Obama really thinks: That’s nice. Now why don’t you try to refute the video that I posted? ---
**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/839 "2010-10-22T16:46:42Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > In fact, despite the title of the video “Obama Admits He Is A Muslim,” the creators go out of their way to state, before the video even begins, that:What a bunch of weaseling cowards. Not only are they lying in their own disclaimer, but if Obama truly did admit to being a Muslim, they wouldn’t even need the disclaimer because, in the United States, truth is an absolute defense to a defamation action. I agree that they should not have backed down with that disclaimer. They have some good evidence, and they should stand behind it. ---
**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/840 "2010-10-22T16:51:07Z")
So after some googling on the interwebs, I’ve concluded that the sum total of stimulus money spent on Chinese windmills is $450 million. Did I say spent? I meant financed, and to be re-payed. And the money the government lent was itself borrowed (oddly enough from China). So no tax dollars actually went to Chinese windmills, but the people of Texas will benefit from their development. And since you claim to be in shipping, there is a good chance you actually benefited from the money spent. And if you have any investments, they’d probably include government bonds, used to lend to the windmill project, which will pay you interest. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760.md?page=41) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760.md?page=43)