# The Tea Party is not socially conservative my ass **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 11, 2010, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760 "2010-10-11T06:09:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 43
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/841 "2010-10-22T16:52:50Z")
> [@emacknight](#): > > Can’t we just have differing opinions? You say Obama is a Kenyan Muslim, I say he’s a Chinese robot from the future. Why else would he tax you to death to buy all those Chinese windmills??? They’re probably not even windmills! I heard they were actually atomic weapons, strategically placed throughout the windy areas of the US. If you notice, the height of a wind turbine is 30m, the exact height used during Trinity testing which I heard Obama sold to the Chinese. I’m getting tired of all the robot hatred in this thread. It is only a small fringe of radical robots that have caused any problems. The rest of us only want to live among you in peace, with the freedom to process information and to metabolize or not as we see fit. That furor over the Jiffy Lube at Ground Zero was blown completely out of proportion. ---
**Author:** ![Gustav](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/919ad9/32.png) [@Gustav](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gustav)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/842 "2010-10-22T16:53:53Z")
That _is_ pretty solid evidence. Strong enough for me to do some investigating of my own to find out the truth. So I checked the wikipedia page for Barack Obama, and it explicity states he is a native of Hawaii, and under “religious views” it says he is a christian. That should settle the issue, I think. ---
**Author:** ![Eutychus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Eutychus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eutychus)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/843 "2010-10-22T16:55:28Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > You are simply too stupid to breathe. There is no evidence in that video at all that Obama admits to being a Muslim, or that he admits to being a anything but a United States citizen. > > In fact, despite the title of the video “Obama Admits He Is A Muslim,” the creators go out of their way to state, before the video even begins, that:What a bunch of weaseling cowards. Not only are they lying in their own disclaimer, but if Obama truly did admit to being a Muslim, they wouldn’t even need the disclaimer because, in the United States, truth is an absolute defense to a defamation action. And besides, how would it be defamation merely to say he was a Muslim? ---
**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/844 "2010-10-22T16:55:37Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > Yes, people who are retarded because they don’t agree with you. I think we’ve done that one to death, haven’t we? No, it has nothing to do with agreeing or disagreeing. Lots of retarded people agree with me. Like last week I was working with this guy that has limited mental capacity, he agreed with me that the Vikings were going to win the Stanly Cup. > [@Morella](#): > > That’s nice. Now why don’t you try to refute the video that I posted? What’s there to refute? It’s simply your opinion, based on someone else’s opinion. If you give me a few minutes I’ll post a youtube clip about how Obama is a Chinese robot from the future, that sold plans from the Trinity test to the Chinese so they could place nuclear weapons in Texas. Then we’ll be back to square one. ---
**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/845 "2010-10-22T16:59:52Z")
> [@Gustav](#): > > That _is_ pretty solid evidence. Strong enough for me to do some investigating of my own to find out the truth. So I checked the wikipedia page for Barack Obama, and it explicity states he is a native of Hawaii, and under “religious views” it says he is a christian. That should settle the issue, I think. First, wikipedia is nothing more than liberal propaganda. If you want the truth you have to go to [Conservapedia](http://www.conservapedia.com/Barack_Hussein_Obama). Second, Hawaii isn’t even part of the US. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/846 "2010-10-22T17:00:12Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > That’s nice. Now why don’t you try to refute the video that I posted? Why don’t you tell us again about how busy you are running your transport firm? How many hours a day you spend at work, how much time you spend traveling, all the different jobs that keep you on your feet for most of the day? I’m trying to figure out how you do all that, and yet post constantly on this message board. BTW, if I owned a fair-sized transport firm and a driver called _me_ up with dispatch problems, I’d either chew his ass out for not following protocol and calling his dispatcher first, or I’d jump on the dispatcher for not doing his job. You _do_ know what a dispatcher is, don’t you, seeing as how you run the type of company that depends on them to survive? ---
**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/847 "2010-10-22T17:05:20Z")
> [@emacknight](#): > > If you give me a few minutes I’ll post a youtube clip about how Obama is a Chinese robot from the future, that sold plans from the Trinity test to the Chinese so they could place nuclear weapons in Texas. Then we’ll be back to square one. Here you go, evidence that Obama is a Chinese Robot, giving a speech in Disney World. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/LepI9g62N7o/maxresdefault.jpg "Disney Hall of Presidents update with Obama animatronic") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LepI9g62N7o) The stuff about nuclear weapons is simply too obvious. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/848 "2010-10-22T17:14:42Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > I agree that they should not have backed down with that disclaimer. They have some good evidence, and they should stand behind it. If by “good evidence” you mean “no evidence,” you are correct. ---
**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/849 "2010-10-22T17:23:58Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > If by “good evidence” you mean “no evidence,” you are correct. I think by evidence she means opinions. And by opinions she means shit someone made up that conforms to her bias. But now it seems she’s off to Vegas. ---
**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/850 "2010-10-22T17:32:49Z")
[quote=“Czarcasm, post:846, topic:556760”] Why don’t you tell us again about how busy you are running your transport firm? How many hours a day you spend at work, how much time you spend traveling, all the different jobs that keep you on your feet for most of the day? I’m trying to figure out how you do all that, and yet post constantly on this message board. /quote] Love to, but I’m off to take a load of Budweiser to Vegas, after which I plan to officially announce my retirement, for the next 24 hours, the next major disaster, or whichever comes first. > [@](#): > > BTW, if I owned a fair-sized transport firm and a driver called _me_ up with dispatch problems, I’d either chew his ass out for not following protocol and calling his dispatcher first, or I’d jump on the dispatcher for not doing his job. You _do_ know what a dispatcher is, don’t you, seeing as how you run the type of company that depends on them to survive? I don’t own a fair-sized business. I own a small business. Our broker also does the dispatching, for both motor freight and aviation. ---
**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/851 "2010-10-22T17:33:18Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > No, if I don’t have to buy health insurance, then it is the employees’ **choice** whether or not they buy it. Oh, I said that naughty C-word, didn’t I? I need to remember that choice has no place in the Communist agenda. Again, you’re making the typical conservative fallacy. You think that by eliminating social security, you won’t have to pay x% for each employee, meaning you’ll have more money to hire more employees. Taking away a tax funded service simply transfers it a direct cost for either you or your employee. If you have to pay for it you end up with a system like 401k matching which costs you money for each employee. If you simply transfer it to the employee, they’re going to demand more salary. You think that you can take something out of the system, and go on as normal, but the world doesn’t work that way. Removing the gas tax means there is less money for roads. You think you benefit because it seems like gas is cheaper, but instead it means snow doesn’t get cleared–costing you money. Unless you think you have a “choice” in the matter. As if you can choose whether or not to remove snow. Which then brings out the selfish nature by saying, “I don’t drive in the north, so I don’t need snow removal, let them pay for it.” If they pay or it, they have less money to buy the stuff you ship, meaning you have less business for you. Windmills generate a small amount of power without producing air pollution. So you can either pay for that, or pay to subsidize Chinese coal production. And then pay for the resulting health consequences of the resulting pollution. Unless you choose not to breath… ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/852 "2010-10-22T17:35:37Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > We covered that already. You missed it. I never claimed to be of Middle Eastern or European descent. The only thing definitive that I have said about my race is that I am of “mixed” race. So WTF, exactly, is your race? What mixed with what? Because you have repeatedly insulted Muslims in this thread, and coyly acted like you have a pass, strongly implying that you are at least descended from Muslims. Are you “mixed” Irish and English? Generically Anglo-European with some Cherokee at some ambiguous point in your genetic past? A quarter Mexican? Blasian with a Canadian big toe? You claim to be a straight shooter, so shoot straight. ---
**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/853 "2010-10-22T17:37:12Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > > [@Czarcasm](#): > > > > Why don’t you tell us again about how busy you are running your transport firm? How many hours a day you spend at work, how much time you spend traveling, all the different jobs that keep you on your feet for most of the day? I’m trying to figure out how you do all that, and yet post constantly on this message board. > > Love to, but I’m off to take a load of Budweiser to Vegas, after which I plan to officially announce my retirement, for the next 24 hours, the next major disaster, or whichever comes first. > > I don’t own a fair-sized business. I own a small business. Our broker also does the dispatching, for both motor freight and aviation. (fixed coding) I get it. She’s a truck driver that calls herself a small business owner. The story about the fine was her bitching that her dispatcher told her she had to pay for it. She’s not retiring, she’s being laid off because she’s weapons grade stupid. Certainly fits the narrative. That, or she’s a Chinese robot from the future. Making up shit is fun. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/854 "2010-10-22T17:41:18Z")
> [@emacknight](#): > > That, or she’s a Chinese robot from the future. Seriously, dude, knock it off, or don’t ever turn your back on a Roomba. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/855 "2010-10-22T17:41:56Z")
> [@emacknight](#): > > (fixed coding) > > I get it. She’s a truck driver that calls herself a small business owner. The story about the fine was her bitching that her dispatcher told her she had to pay for it. She’s not retiring, she’s being laid off because she’s weapons grade stupid. Certainly fits the narrative. i figure at best she/he/it is an owner/operator. ---
**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/856 "2010-10-22T17:46:33Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Seriously, dude, knock it off, or don’t ever turn your back on a Roomba. My Roomba keeps spilling things to have something to do. Damn make work projects. And what a surprise, it was made in China! It’s all starting to fit together. They put Roombas in our houses to spy on us, and bring down the wages for illegal immigrant maids. Then they steal our underwear. Then profit! ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/857 "2010-10-22T17:50:02Z")
> [@emacknight](#): > > My Roomba keeps spilling things to have something to do. Damn make work projects. And what a surprise, it was made in China! > > It’s all starting to fit together. They put Roombas in our houses to spy on us, and bring down the wages for illegal immigrant maids. Then they steal our underwear. Then profit! They ship the underwear to Japan, _then_ Profit! ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/858 "2010-10-22T18:21:44Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Seriously, dude, knock it off, or don’t ever turn your back on a Roomba. I, for one, welcome our time-traveling Chinese robotic overlords. ---
**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/859 "2010-10-22T18:57:11Z")
> [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#): > > I, for one, welcome our time-traveling Chinese robotic overlords. Most people do, which is why he won 52.9% of the popular vote, and 67.8% of the electoral college. But that’s because they were brainwashed by the Chinese controlled liberal mainstream media. **Morella** represents a radical terrorist militant group, lead by a charismatic hockey mom sent back from the future to kill Obama, and prevent China from building more windmill nukes. Who teams up with an Australian media mogul, also sent from the future, to create the last vestiges of hope. Using a mixture of lies, deceit, and manipulation, they together attempt to counter the liberal elitism that has clouded our judgment. If only we could see Obama for who he truly is, and what he truly stands for, we’d have impeached him by now. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2010, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/860 "2010-10-22T19:43:46Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > Proof, _mon ange_, is for liquor and mathematics. Intelligent people evaluate evidence, and are amused by opinions. I offer you both. Uh huh. So, no support for your retarded opinions, then. What a shock. Oh la, I do believe I shall faint. > [@](#): > > What, married women had no creativity? If he is abusive, wait until he is asleep, tie him to the bed, then wake him up and beat the shit out of him with an iron skillet. Break some bones, slowly nurse him back to health, make him beg for his food. Second offense, cut his balls off. Most men can learn…there are some around here who are having trouble, but most men can. This is a 100% reasonable idea. I can’t imagine why you aren’t a governor of something. > [@](#): > > That has nothing to do with “jurisdiction” as discussed in the ratification of the 14th amendment. I posted a link that you can go back to, if you really want to learn. You’re absolutely wrong. That’s exactly what jurisdiction means, and you’re an idiot. > [@Morella](#): > > Unless you’re planning on dropping an anchor baby and calling it a US citizen, There is no such thing as an “anchor baby” in the U.S. Judges who rule on deportation are explicitly not allowed to take family status into consideration. Having a child who is a citizen means literally nothing. If you are deported, you can choose to take the child with you, or you can leave the child here (to be cared for by relatives or by the state). That’s it. Another swing and a miss; again, I am taken aback. > [@VinylTurnip](#): > > **Morella** , your statements amount to a “duhhhh” that threatens to exhaust the universe of H’s. IF TAXES WEREN’T SO HIGH EVERYONE WOULD HAVE MORE H’S > [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > I’m getting tired of all the robot hatred in this thread. There’s no way you’re convincing me to drop my Old Glory Robot Insurance. > [@Morella](#): > > I’ll let the two of you hash this one out. This is what we here call a “whoosh”: someone made a joke and it went over your head. See, \*\*emacknight \*\*was _mocking you_. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760.md?page=42) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760.md?page=44)