# The Tea Party is not socially conservative my ass **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 11, 2010, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760 "2010-10-11T06:09:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 46
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/901 "2010-10-24T05:24:33Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > The bridge does not shave any time off of the trip, except, perhaps, during the biker River Run week, and in any case, it is not worth $240 million. Wow, you sound so certain, even though the bridge isn’t even open to the public yet. Do you have a link to a traffic study that backs up what you’re saying, or are you just talking out your ass and making shit up? ---
**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/902 "2010-10-24T05:26:53Z")
> [@Sevastopol](#): > > Me too. You’d think it was a popular opinion. And yet when I want the Defense budget to be used for defense only, the amount of resistance to this simple idea is more than you can believe. > > It is only an anecdote and you are free to not believe me, but on more than one occasion I have had people tell me it is OK to use the defense forces for the invasion of Iraq! Well, there was that time in 1984 when Russian paratroopers landed Colorado. I sat in a documentary called _Red Dawn_. ---
**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/903 "2010-10-24T05:28:51Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > And those windmills that are sitting up on the hills, not turning…are they really turning, and I’m just imagining that they aren’t? We already told you, they’re not windmills. They’re thermonuclear devices. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/904 "2010-10-24T05:29:18Z")
What people don’t seem to get is that you you don’t even need some form of proof of our President’s birth. All you need is the fact that the so-called short-form certificate is enough for him to be legally declared a citizen. Even if evidence was found that he was born outside of the U.S., it wouldn’t matter. As for being a secret radical Muslim–that’s a contradiction in terms. There are just too many behavioral requirements that we’d be able to see. It’s not like there’s some special provision that lets you out of every commandment if you are acting as a secret undercover spy. Finally, I’ve suspected that Morella was not on the up and up since she got here. ---
**Author:** ![Oldeb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ea666f/32.png) [@Oldeb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oldeb)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/905 "2010-10-24T06:10:35Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > …although people around here claim that they are trying to get to the truth, what they are really interested in is the Communist agenda. Why does it always have to Commies? ☹ I really wish you’d pick a more interesting boogeyman to base your stupid around. The Red Menace is _boring_. There haven’t been any scary Communists in my lifetime. (China may be scary, but it’s not because of them pushing a glorious workers’ paradise and railing against the evils of capitalism) It’s like someone telling me that instead of the Truth I’m getting nothing but the Saber Tooth Cat agenda. They might have been really scary once but after they went extinct it’s hard to be properly terrified. ---
**Author:** ![Sevastopol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cdc98d/32.png) [@Sevastopol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sevastopol)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 8:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/906 "2010-10-24T08:34:37Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > What people don’t seem to get is that you you don’t even need some form of proof of our President’s birth. > > Finally, I’ve suspected that Morella was not on the up and up since she got here. I agree. Each and every birth agitator is in a complete, nay transcendental, state of awareness that the whole attack on Obama is entirely baseless. Their mantra: “It does not matter that it is not true.” To which is sometimes added, “See how we _got_ Clinton” and “Remember what they did to Bush.” ---
**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 9:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/907 "2010-10-24T09:44:30Z")
> [@Sevastopol](#): > > Me too. You’d think it was a popular opinion. And yet when I want the Defense budget to be used for defense only, the amount of resistance to this simple idea is more than you can believe. > > It is only an anecdote and you are free to not believe me, but on more than one occasion I have had people tell me it is OK to use the defense forces for the invasion of Iraq! Or Afghanistan? Cosovo? Hey, Barry is in charge of the military, and Congress has gone along with the whole Iraq thing, so this isn’t a partisan issue, nor is it conservative/liberal. I am amazed at how you liberal idiots justify wasteful spending by saying that we spend money on the military. ---
**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 9:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/908 "2010-10-24T09:47:26Z")
> [@emacknight](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > Yes, where I am paying $12 a day for internet access > > $12 an hour, I sure hope this is worth it. I can see we’re still having a problem with reading comprehension. ---
**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 10:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/909 "2010-10-24T10:26:17Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > Wow, you sound so certain, even though the bridge isn’t even open to the public yet. Do you have a link to a traffic study that backs up what you’re saying, or are you just talking out your ass and making shit up? haha “The Liberal Trucker” Hey, Bobby, shut off the engine. We’ve been idling for more than three seconds. That contributes to global warming and wastes fuel. But we’re sitting at a red light, Brucie! It doesn’t matter. Former President Gore said that we shouldn’t idle our engine. Do you want volcanos, floods, tsunamis and world destruction? Gosh, no, Brucie! I’ll shut it off. Should I set the brakes too? I don’t think so, Bobby. They make a hissing noise, and that means they must be exhaling something, probably CO2. That contributes to global warming. Gee, Brucie. You are so smart. Hey, we have a preplan going to Vegas! Vegas? Oh, Bobby! I can’t wait to go downtown (teehee). Maybe we can catch the Kenny Kerr show, or Frank Marino. I’ll call our favorite hotel, the Del-Mar, and get us a room. You can’t, Brucie! The damned conservatives had the Del-Mar shut down! They actually called it a fornicatorium, can you believe the nerve of these people! Oh Gosh, Bobby. Just get us a room at the Sahara, then. Do we have enough condoms for a trip to Vegas? Why do we need condoms, Brucie? Since Obamacare passed, all of our health care is free! We don’t have to worry about getting AIDS anymore, or paying our rent or our utility bills. Obama said so on TV! Gee willickers, Bobby! Obama is the best thing that ever happened to this country. Hey, the traffic light has changed a few times and people are honking at us. Do you think we should go? Okey doke, Brucie. Which way is it to Vegas? Umm…I don’t know, sweetie. I hear they built a new bridge. Is it shorter to go that way? I’m not sure, Brucie. I don’t think they’ve done a government traffic study yet. What, no traffic study? I don’t think we should start the engine until a traffic study has been done. Let’s just sit here for a while…if someone doesn’t send us the traffic study report, we can always complain to somebody. ---
**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/910 "2010-10-24T10:28:29Z")
> [@emacknight](#): > > Well, there was that time in 1984 when Russian paratroopers landed Colorado. I sat in a documentary called _Red Dawn_. Where were you sitting? ---
**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/911 "2010-10-24T10:31:35Z")
> [@Oldeb](#): > > Why does it always have to Commies? ☹ I really wish you’d pick a more interesting boogeyman to base your stupid around. The Red Menace is _boring_. > > There haven’t been any scary Communists in my lifetime. (China may be scary, but it’s not because of them pushing a glorious workers’ paradise and railing against the evils of capitalism) It’s like someone telling me that instead of the Truth I’m getting nothing but the Saber Tooth Cat agenda. They might have been really scary once but after they went extinct it’s hard to be properly terrified. Yes, right. Reagan simple waved his hand and Communism went away. Everyone can relax now, the threat is gone. ---
**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/912 "2010-10-24T10:36:32Z")
> [@Sevastopol](#): > > I agree. Each and every birth agitator is in a complete, nay transcendental, state of awareness that the whole attack on Obama is entirely baseless. Their mantra: “It does not matter that it is not true.” > > To which is sometimes added, “See how we _got_ Clinton” and “Remember what they did to Bush.” What’s funny is that you’re being led to choose one side or the other, instead of looking at what is really going on. It’s an old sales tactic…if you’re selling a printer to a business, for example, don’t show them one printer and make the decision “buy this or don’t buy it”. Show them two, and make it a decision between buying one or the other. This is why they give us polarizing issues like abortion, gay marriage, and illegal immigration. This is why, just to get back on topic for a moment, the conservatives line up with moral issues. It’s to pit people against each other, make them choose sides against each other, and not against the government and big business, which are basically the same thing. I don’t give a flying fuck what they (the ubiquitous “they”?) did to Bush. ---
**Author:** ![Oldeb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ea666f/32.png) [@Oldeb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oldeb)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/913 "2010-10-24T11:43:22Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > Yes, right. Reagan simple waved his hand and Communism went away. Everyone can relax now, the threat is gone. Well I have been told he was the next best thing to god-incarnate… But it’s far more likely that it failed as a social/political/economical philosophy. Here’s a list of the current communist states. > **[Communist state](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_communist_states)** > > A communist state, also known as a Marxist–Leninist state, is a form of government that combines the state leadership of a communist party, Marxist–Leninist political philosophy, and an official commitment to the construction of a communist society. Modern communism broadly grew out of the socialist movement in 19th-century Europe as a program to replace capitalism with a stateless, classless, and moneyless society, but its application as Marxism–Leninism began later in the Soviet Union under... I hate to tell you but it’s really hard to be scared of Laos, Vietnam, or Cuba. North Korea and Jong-Il would be hilarious if he wasn’t starving his people. Let it go, capitalism won years ago. And did you just imply up above that Obama had something to do with the start of the Afghanistan War? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/914 "2010-10-24T12:01:27Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > Yes, right. Reagan simple waved his hand and Communism went away. Everyone can relax now, the threat is gone. Didn’t I tell you, we’re back to 1980’s level stupid. It’s all part of the Communist agenda, that sent a Chinese Robot back in time to be born in Hawaii and later become President. Brilliant. ---
**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/915 "2010-10-24T12:05:59Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > Yes, where I am paying $12 a day for internet access that is free everywhere else in the free world… > [@Morella](#): > > I can see we’re still having a problem with reading comprehension. I can see you’re still having trouble understanding whooshing. ---
**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/916 "2010-10-24T12:10:57Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > haha “The Liberal Trucker” That was adorable. Would you like us to make up a bunch of shit about “the conservative trucker” or the “libertarian trucker” or the “seeking the truth trucker?” Would that help with your narrative? Or was there more of a point to your story? What is it about long haul trucking that fucks people up so bad? ---
**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/917 "2010-10-24T12:13:05Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > Where were you sitting? hahaha I get it now, we’re looking for typos. I wrote sat instead of saw. You got me! I guess that means Obama is a Kenyan Muslim and that there haven’t been any plane crashes due to illegal drugs! ---
**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/918 "2010-10-24T13:09:35Z")
> [@emacknight](#): > > That was adorable. Would you like us to make up a bunch of shit about “the conservative trucker” or the “libertarian trucker” or the “seeking the truth trucker?” Would that help with your narrative? If you can make it entertaining, by all means, do. ---
**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/919 "2010-10-24T13:11:41Z")
> [@Oldeb](#): > > But it’s far more likely that (communism) failed as a social/political/economical philosophy. Has anyone tried to explain this to Barry? > [@](#): > > And did you just imply up above that Obama had something to do with the start of the Afghanistan War? What orifice did you pull that one out of? ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/920 "2010-10-24T13:36:55Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > Has anyone tried to explain this to Barry? > > What orifice did you pull that one out of? Now you are not even trying. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760.md?page=45) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760.md?page=47)