# The Tea Party is not socially conservative my ass **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 11, 2010, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760 "2010-10-11T06:09:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 47
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/921 "2010-10-24T13:38:25Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > Has anyone tried to explain this to Barry? Barry who? ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/922 "2010-10-24T13:53:12Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Barry who? Oh, you know, our POTUS. You see, Morella’s on a cazh first name basis with him because they’re buds. Just like I can call Morella a royal dumbass fuckstick–because we’re tight, y’all. ---
**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/923 "2010-10-24T13:59:14Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Barry who? Good question. Soetoro? Maybe we should look on his birth certificate. Better yet, just make him a new one. > **[ARYA88 # Situs Taruhan Agen Bola Live Piala Dunia 2026 Terpercaya](https://kenyanbirthcertificategenerator.com/)** > > ARYA88 hadir sebagai agen situs taruhan bola terpercaya untuk Piala Dunia 2026. Nikmati pasaran judi bola mixparlay terlengkap, odds tinggi, dan layanan 24 jam nonstop. ---
**Author:** ![Oldeb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ea666f/32.png) [@Oldeb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oldeb)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/924 "2010-10-24T15:06:48Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > Has anyone tried to explain this to Barry? Hey, if you want to stick with the Red Menance that’s fine. I’d just like to see you become a better troll by picking a big bad that didn’t go defunct decades ago. It’s no fun if the best fearmongering you have is, “Laos is coming to get you!” At least **Emac** ’s time travelling robots aren’t a proven failure. > [@](#): > > What orifice did you pull that one out of? I was hoping for some clarification on this: > [@Morella](#): > > Or Afghanistan? [Kosovo]? Hey, Barry is in charge of the military, and Congress has gone along with the whole Iraq thing, so this isn’t a partisan issue, nor is it conservative/liberal. It’s your response to **Sevastopol** ’s comments on starting wars. Considering Obama was serving in the Illinois State Legislature during the Kosovo stuff and he inherited both Afghanistan and Iraq I really don’t see what he has to do with either of them. I was just curious if you were a firm believer in Steele’s, "Keep in mind again, federal candidates, this was a war of Obama’s choosing. This is not something the United States had actively prosecuted or wanted to engage in,” comment. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/925 "2010-10-24T15:50:15Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > Wow, you sound so certain, even though the bridge isn’t even open to the public yet. Do you have a link to a traffic study that backs up what you’re saying, or are you just talking out your ass and making shit up? [Ya think?!???!???](http://www.wreckamovie.com/system/shot_medias/0000/6291/Troll_-_Succesful_troll.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/926 "2010-10-24T16:27:04Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > [Ya think?!???!???](http://www.wreckamovie.com/system/shot_medias/0000/6291/Troll_-_Succesful_troll.jpg) Since the guy in that race is winning, he’s obviously a Kenyan. Much like Obama! See, this thread’s troll works on so many levels! -Joe ---
**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/927 "2010-10-24T16:47:13Z")
There is a good lesson buried under all this shit: Why is there such a strong connection with being an anti-government lunatic, and a conspiracy believing wingnut? On its own, I could respect someone that wanted less government involvement. I myself can identify areas that I’d love the government to get the hell out of (marriage, drugs, alcohol). But those that seem to push hardest and scream loudest for it, are also the same that finish their posts with [insert random conspiracy theory] and remembering fondly back to [random era when government wasn’t involved in something]. Why go through so much trouble to prepare a nice meal, then pour shit all over it? You see, food is an area where there are differing opinions about what is good. Wet ribs vr dry ribs for example. And a healthy debate can exist where each presents reasons. But the dry-rib camp doesn’t benifit by subsequently suggestion that bbq sauce is a plot by the CIA to blah blah blah THE GUBERMENT! So as a lesson to us all, if you want to be taken seriously on a particular topic, you’ve got hide the crazy. Just stick with a given subject matter and leave the baggage at home. \*\*Morella \*\* will forever be remembered as that crazy old trucker that thinks Obama is a Chinese robot from the future, and that the world was great before 1964. \*\*Starving Artist \*\*gets remember as that cranky old man that thinks the liberal agenda was to have more STIs and that the world was better by in the 50s. Both of who can’t finish a post without uttering some bullsthit about an agenda. Perhaps it’s the **conservative agenda** , to make conservatives sound stupid, so that people stop paying attention to them… and then profit? ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/928 "2010-10-24T17:43:59Z")
> [@emacknight](#): > > \*\*Starving Artist \*\*gets remember as that cranky old man that thinks the liberal agenda was to have more STIs and that the world was better by in the 50s. That’s right, if you’ve got nothing but bullshit going for you, your best offense is to point and laugh at some alleged physical or mental shortcoming of your opponent. When’s the last time around here that you’ve seen a conservative belitting someone in an argument because of how old they were? Or calling them a moron or an idiot in virtually every post they make? Weak sauce, guys. And besides, I’m not old anyway. Sixty is the new forty! You must not know about that either. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/929 "2010-10-24T17:48:40Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > That’s right, if you’ve got nothing but bullshit going for you, your best offense is to point and laugh at some alleged physical or mental shortcoming of your opponent. When’s the last time around here that you’ve seen a conservative belitting someone in an argument because of how old they were? Or calling them a moron or an idiot in virtually every post they make? > > Weak sauce, guys. > > And besides, I’m not old anyway. Sixty is the new forty! You must not know about that either. 🆒 SA, can I ask, do you think Obama is a citizen? I just want to know how well informed you are. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/930 "2010-10-24T17:49:04Z")
> [@emacknight](#): > > That was adorable. Would you like us to make up a bunch of shit about “the conservative trucker” or the “libertarian trucker” or the “seeking the truth trucker?” Would that help with your narrative? > [@Morella](#): > > If you can make it entertaining, by all means, do. It’s about this woman who decides, of her own free will, to go to Las Vegas. While there, she pays $12 a day to be able to access the internet, again of her own free will. Then she complains about it to the people she finds online. It’s hysterical. > [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Or calling them a moron or an idiot in virtually every post they make? Yesterday. ---
**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/931 "2010-10-24T18:28:21Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > That’s right, if you’ve got nothing but bullshit going for you, your best offense is to point and laugh at some alleged physical or mental shortcoming of your opponent. When’s the last time around here that you’ve seen a conservative belitting someone in an argument because of how old they were? Or calling them a moron or an idiot in virtually every post they make? > > Weak sauce, guys. > > And besides, I’m not old anyway. Sixty is the new forty! You must not know about that either. 🆒 but but but… …we only do it because other people are so obnoxiously conservative; they started it; this message board is too conservative; I’m telling mom. or have you already forgotten the things you’ve said in previous posts? You know it’s searchable right? Did you not say the liberal agenda was to have more STI’s (you probably said STD’s like some idiot not informed on the subject) ---
**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/932 "2010-10-24T18:29:34Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > SA, can I ask, do you think Obama is a citizen? I just want to know how well informed you are. And one further question: how would you then describe someone that doesn’t think Obama is a citizen? Is that just a difference of opinion? Does that opinion carry equal weight with someone that \*believes \*he was born in Hawaii? ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/933 "2010-10-24T18:51:49Z")
> [@emacknight](#): > > Did you not say the liberal agenda was to have more STI’s (you probably said STD’s like some idiot not informed on the subject) I said neither. What I did say was that the liberal agenda (or more accurately, it’s influence over the years) has resulted in not only more STD’s but a hell of a lot more. Currently 25% among high-school age females, I believe. And I don’t believe either of you guys have ever heard me comment on where Obama was born, or upon the legitimacy of his presidency. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/934 "2010-10-24T19:02:46Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I said neither. What I did say was that the liberal agenda (or more accurately, it’s influence over the years) has resulted in not only more STD’s but a hell of a lot more. Currently 25% among high-school age females, I believe. > > And I don’t believe either of you guys have ever heard me comment on where Obama was born, or upon the legitimacy of his presidency. That’s why we’re asking. You’re reflexively defending Morella, and she/he is so vile, stupid and uninformed I was wondering if there was any limit to your disgusting partisanship. You are very, very, uninformed and you think opinions are facts. But I think that even you must be smart enough to understand that the birther arguments are simply lies for the dregs of humanity to rally behind. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/935 "2010-10-24T19:10:35Z")
> [@emacknight](#): > > but but but… > > …we only do it because other people are so obnoxiously conservative; So you freely admit to your childish behavior but you excuse it on the grounds that you find our “obnoxious” behavior as conservatives objectionable? Wouldn’t you call that, uh, childish? Especially so if you consider that fact that the obnoxiousness ratio around here between liberals and conservatives is, by my estimation, roughly 2000:1. Which means that in effect you’re acting childish because of our obnoxious response to the overwhelming obnoxiousness coming from your side? So, how is it exactly that your childishness is justified again? ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/936 "2010-10-24T19:17:22Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > That’s why we’re asking. You’re reflexively defending Morella, and she/he is so vile, stupid and uninformed I was wondering if there was any limit to your disgusting partisanship. I’m not defending her and it’s dishonest for you to say I am. The fact that we share certain beliefs does not equate to a defense. Nor has she been defending me when she refers to comments I’ve made. Besides, I don’t think she is a conservative, by definition, and I think she would agree with that as well. > [@Lobohan](#): > > You are very, very, uninformed and you think opinions are facts. I would suggest that it is you who is uninformed and prone to regarding his opinions as fact. Both are evident in this very post. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/937 "2010-10-24T19:22:59Z")
Developmentally disabled chimp throws poop. Expects reward banana. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/938 "2010-10-24T20:31:20Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > And I don’t believe either of you guys have ever heard me comment on where Obama was born, or upon the legitimacy of his presidency. So where DO you think Obama was born? DO you think his presidency is legitimate? Are people entitled to different opinions on this matter? Or is it not a matter of opinion, but a matter of fact? ---
**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/939 "2010-10-24T20:33:27Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > > [@emacknight](#): > > > > but but but… > > > > …we only do it because other people are so obnoxiously conservative; > > So you freely admit to your childish behavior but you excuse it on the grounds that you find our “obnoxious” behavior as conservatives objectionable? > > Wouldn’t you call that, uh, childish? No, I’d call it conservative: > [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Incorrect. I post like I do because many of the board’s liberal posters are arrogant, superior, outrageously partisan jerks. The board itself is populated largely by very knowledgeable, very helpful, very sympathetic, and very good people. Unfortunately they then not to be the ones offering political opinions. > > [Quote=emacknight] > Not because what you post is crap, it’s because we’re all so liberal, and you’re so conservative. Nope. It has nothing to do with your being liberal or me being conservative. It has to do with you and a lot of other posters around here being so **obnoxiously liberal**. [/QUOTE] I guess you forgot you said that. It’s okay, that happens, it’s called age associated memory impairment. And why is age relevant? Because you bring it up so often, you make your age part of the discussion. In fact, you once claimed that people believe UHC is good because they’re young. How is up there or your soap box? > [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Especially so if you consider that fact that the obnoxiousness ratio around here between liberals and conservatives is, by my estimation, roughly 2000:1. > > Which means that in effect you’re acting childish because of our obnoxious response to the overwhelming obnoxiousness coming from your side? > > So, how is it exactly that your childishness is justified again? Given the obnoxious nature of our new friend **Morella** , your golden ration has fallen. Unless you think that her obnoxiousness is some how justified? You also missed my question: how would you describe someone that thinks Obama is Muslim Kenyan, and not a US citizen? Would you said intelligent, or something else? ---
**Author:** ![CannyDan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cannydan/32/548_2.png) [@CannyDan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CannyDan)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/940 "2010-10-24T20:45:56Z")
> [@emacknight](#): > > but but but… > > …we only do it because other people are so obnoxiously conservative; they started it; this message board is too conservative; I’m telling mom. > [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > So you freely admit to your childish behavior but you excuse it on the grounds that you find our “obnoxious” behavior as conservatives objectionable? > > Wouldn’t you call that, uh, childish? > > Especially so if you consider that fact that the obnoxiousness ratio around here between liberals and conservatives is, by my estimation, roughly 2000:1. > > Which means that in effect you’re acting childish because of our obnoxious response to the overwhelming obnoxiousness coming from your side? > > So, how is it exactly that your childishness is justified again? _Pssstttt!!_ \*\*SA \*\*old buddy!! Didn’t the audible \*whoooooooshing \*noise \*\*emack’s \*\*post made register on you? \*Ma-a-a-a-\*velous to see you tilting at yet another windmill. Perfectly consistent. It’s so – _ **you** _. Kind of like your “estimate” which also has not even a tangential relationship to fact. Again though, it’s just more of _ **you** _. I just checked in to point and laugh and, guess what? I’m right on time. So here I go, _pointing_ and _laughing_. Ah, **SA** , you’re a never ending source of joy. Thanks again! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760.md?page=46) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760.md?page=48)