# The Tea Party is not socially conservative my ass **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 11, 2010, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760 "2010-10-11T06:09:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/141 "2010-10-12T13:57:30Z")
I _did_ read the rest of what you had to say, and didn’t find it much more insightful. ---
**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/142 "2010-10-12T13:59:48Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > > [@Morella](#): > > > > What makes you think that the Tea Party embraces racism? > > People like you. There you have the flaw in your logic, which, I suppose, is what I should concentrate on pointing out. I am not affiliated with the Tea Party in any way…I seriously doubt that they would want me…and so blaming the Tea Party for my comments is somewhat ludicrous, isn’t it? In fact, blaming the Tea Party for the comments of any individual, or small group, who claim to be affiliated with it, is ludicrous. > [@](#): > > It’s not the overwhelming stench of the rhetoric of David Duke or the hateful violence of the KKK, but it’s the much more subtle, much more coded language of the people in the tea party. Thank goodness the stench of Robert Byrd has finally been silenced, eh? > [@](#): > > From idiocy of “diaperheads”, your flippant use of the n word, and your inane broad brushing of black people as too stupid to understand the pandering of the democratic party and that they are too lazy to work hard, get an education, and better themselves. Actually, what I said was that black people are getting smart and figuring it out, and are working to better themselves. It would be nice if liberal whites could do the same. As for “nigger”, it’s just a word. Try listening to ten seconds of urban rap music without hearing it. > [@](#): > > And that’s just you in this thread. When you add in the same kind of rhetoric at Tea Party events and the numerous Tea Party guys making inane comments or carrying race baiting signs, you have a fair amount of evidence. Sure they’ve prettied it up, hid it behind codewords and broad brushing, but it’s there nonetheless. Call it prejudice, call it racism, call it conservatism, the label doesn’t matter much to me. But it most certainly is ignorant, like you. Have you ever been to a Tea Party event, or are you relying on quick shots and sound bytes from CNN? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/143 "2010-10-12T14:04:55Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > In fact, blaming the Tea Party for the comments of any individual, or small group, who claim to be affiliated with it, is ludicrous. What about individuals or small groups which the major Tea Party associations have _endorsed_? Carl Paladino, for example. ---
**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/144 "2010-10-12T14:11:50Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > > [@Morella](#): > > > > In fact, blaming the Tea Party for the comments of any individual, or small group, who claim to be affiliated with it, is ludicrous. > > What about individuals or small groups which the major Tea Party associations have _endorsed_? Carl Paladino, for example. I would say that Carl Paladino is the “Bill Clinton” of the Tea Party. A lot of people must be wishing that he would shut up. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/145 "2010-10-12T14:13:29Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > > [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > > > What about individuals or small groups which the major Tea Party associations have _endorsed_? Carl Paladino, for example. > > I would say that Carl Paladino is the “Bill Clinton” of the Tea Party. A lot of people must be wishing that he would shut up. That much you’re right about. Gives you more plausible deniability. ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/146 "2010-10-12T14:17:58Z")
> [@Cisco](#): > > Because I’m pissed. In the American sense. I see your problem! (No, I have not read the rest of the thread.) ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/147 "2010-10-12T14:21:04Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > There you have the flaw in your logic, which, I suppose, is what I should concentrate on pointing out. I am not affiliated with the Tea Party in any way…I seriously doubt that they would want me…and so blaming the Tea Party for my comments is somewhat ludicrous, isn’t it? I wrote: “people like you”, not YOU. It matters not one whit whether or not you’re affiliated with the Tea Party, but rather that the Tea Party is full of people like you. Idiots. > [@Morella](#): > > In fact, blaming the Tea Party for the comments of any individual, or small group, who claim to be affiliated with it, is ludicrous. One or two, I’d give you. Three, maybe. Four, possibly. But from the articles linked in this thread, from your posts, from the news accounts, the signs at the rallys, the actions of its leaders before they tried to mainstream, all are good evidence. > [@Morella](#): > > Actually, what I said was that black people are getting smart and figuring it out, and are working to better themselves. It would be nice if liberal whites could do the same. You still don’t get it, do you? Don’t worry, I think a vast majority of the Tea Partiers don’t get it either. Statements that “black people are getting smart” and “working to better themselves” are simply prejudiced inanities, spouted by an ignoramous. The underlying assumptions, that “black people” are just now “getting smart and working to better themselves” and “liberal whites” aren’t are simply divisive rhetoric that appeals to the stupid. No wonder they appeal to you. Try to look beyond the color of someone’s skin, it will open up a whole new world for you. > [@Morella](#): > > As for “nigger”, it’s just a word. Try listening to ten seconds of urban rap music without hearing it. I think anyone who uses that term outside of specific exceptions is a mental incompetent. That includes you. [QUOTE=Morella] Have you ever been to a Tea Party event, or are you relying on quick shots and sound bytes from CNN? [/QUOTE] There are two lengthy articles in this thread alone. There are likewise dozens of other articles about interviews with people who show up at these events. There are photos of the leaders with racist signs, there’s video of the interviews. There are all kinds of source material that I’ve read. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/148 "2010-10-12T14:23:44Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > > [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > > > What about individuals or small groups which the major Tea Party associations have _endorsed_? Carl Paladino, for example. > > I would say that Carl Paladino is the “Bill Clinton” of the Tea Party. A lot of people must be wishing that he would shut up. And yet the Tea Party Express hasn’t withdrawn its endorsement, and nor have any other TP groups. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/149 "2010-10-12T14:27:27Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > I salute the new breed of conservative blacks who aren’t buying into that bullshit. Hear hear. And let’s hope this line proves more robust, or it’s back to the laboratory. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/150 "2010-10-12T14:29:48Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > > [@Hamlet](#): > > > > People like you. > > There you have the flaw in your logic, which, I suppose, is what I should concentrate on pointing out. I am not affiliated with the Tea Party in any way…I seriously doubt that they would want me… So they are racist? ---
**Author:** ![Chicagojeff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@Chicagojeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chicagojeff)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/151 "2010-10-12T14:35:52Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > > [@Miller](#): > > > > So, we can’t judge the Tea Party by what its members say. And we can’t judge the Tea Party by what its elected representatives say. So, what standard can we use to evaluate the Tea Party as a whole? > > To be honest, I don’t know that there is one right now. 😃 > > I think we’ll just have to wait until it coalesces around some identifiable leader or leaders. Right now it’s just a large group of people pissed off at the direction the country has been headed and the way it’s been run. And not just during Obama’s tenure, but for quite a long while. > > See above. > > > [@Steampunk Willie](#): > > > > Hating Obama? > > Not in my opinion, although plenty disapprove quite a lot of what he and congress have done over the last two years. But like I said to **Miller** , I think a lot of it goes back a long way. Yeah.. and they just suddenly got interested when a Black guy got the corner office gig?? In the words of the great Bears Head Coach Mike Ditka.. 'Starving Artist? .. Who you crappin?" One Tea Party candidate says Homosexuals are sick and dysfunctional and has sent out racist and horse fucking emails.. Another Tea Party beneficiary stated that she was a practicing witch as a teenager and stated that if Hitler came for Ann Frank she would turn the Frank family in.. Another standard bearer has said that Government assistance is technically illegal and then it was later revealed that his wife received unemployment insurance. Another stupid fuck supported by the Tea baggers has stated that instead of Medicare we should institute some sort of barter system for health care.. like when they use to trade a doctor for a chicken to come care for the sick.. You guys aren’t fooling anyone. You are using these dumbfucks to get other dumbfucks to come vote for them. The only reason most of these dumbfucks even found their way to Washington was because a black dude won. Once you’ve used these dumbfucks to take back the stick you’ll send them back to their trailer parks to enjoy their meth and oxy and figure out important issues like if Jeff Gordon is really a fag.. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/152 "2010-10-12T14:39:46Z")
You might want to come in again… ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/153 "2010-10-12T14:40:57Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > For all you teabaggers out there, tell me, which of these programs should the Tea Party officially adopt as a platform: > – Reduce the size of the military > – Reduce Social Security benefits while leaving taxes intact > – Reduce medicaid benefits while leaving taxes intact I’m going to go with: 4.) Cut taxes for the rich, raise taxes on the poor and middle class, and cut government benefits to everyone but the rich and corporations. > [@Morella](#): > > What makes you think that the Tea Party embraces racism? Oh, I dunno. Stuff like this, maybe? > [@Morella](#): > > Personally, I blame the diaperheads [for the Iraq war] > [@Morella](#): > > The race baiting that has been going on with Obama is disgusting. > [@Morella](#): > > Sometimes I wonder if Obama was deliberately put into the White House just to make sure that no black man has a chance of becoming president again in our lifetime. > [@Morella](#): > > [The Democratic Party tells] black people that the reason that they are down economically is because white people are keeping them in their place. That is most certainly horse shit, but they go along with it because it is easier than working hard, getting an education, and bettering themselves. > [@Morella](#): > > As for “nigger”, it’s just a word. Try listening to ten seconds of urban rap music without hearing it. I’d say the irony is astonishing, but it’s actually \*exactly \*what I’d expect from a fucking teabagger, and thus not ironic at all. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/154 "2010-10-12T14:44:46Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > > [@Hamlet](#): > > > > People like you. > > There you have the flaw in your logic, which, I suppose, is what I should concentrate on pointing out. I am not affiliated with the Tea Party in any way… Except for all the time you spend advocating for them online, you mean. You’re a fucking liar. ---
**Author:** ![Dob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Dob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dob)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/155 "2010-10-12T14:52:04Z")
An actual email chain between my mother and myself: Her: “Also the healthcare, is not good enough for them, but for us serfs it will do, if you are going to change things then it should come from the top down. Then one of the Dems talking about immigration, saying there is a student going to school in college (on tax payers) so he can become a citizen, but excuse me, why doesn’t he just take the test like other immigrants have? Why are things all of a sudden different for them and not generations before them. It costs about $300 dollars to take the test, so waive that and let them study like all the rest of them did and swear allegiance to America. Stop bringing the mexican Flag and flying it all over and then burn ours and step on it. If you want to become a legal American then leave what your trying to escape from back where you came from! They should have to obey the Laws of this Land, just as we have to do in any other country, especially mexico. Muslims want tolerance, yet show none to others in their lands, they kill Christians because of their beliefs, so why should we show tolerance for their “Laws” in America. Two years ago, I was not aware of all these things, but by god I am now and I will not back down but will encourage and talk and write and push back as much as I can.” ME: I’m not asking you to “back down”, passion is good. I just hate ignorance. Be mad, but be informed first. This democrat=bad black and white thing you have going isn’t helpful or productive. It’s just going to make you even more pissed when things don’t’ pan out the way you have been led to believe. Come November there wont be some big uprising, no repeals, nothing. just people doing what they think they should. I mean the democrats control all faces of government now and yet the Patriot Act wasn’t repealed, Gitmo isn’t closed, Dont ask dont Tell is still a law… Know why? Because somethings are good even if you wished they weren’t. HER: Maybe I think your way of thinking is ignorant, did you ever think of that? Yes I find MY Thing, very helpful, its made me question and realize what is happening today is not what a majority of Americans wanted, including me!!! Like I said I do not expect everything to change in one election, it took a lot more then that to get us here…I have high hopes that we can stop this madness before we become Europe before they dropped the Socialism! You just can’t fight this type of “passion” with logic. I firmly believe this will be the norm for the republican white population until a white man/women is in the oval office. ---
**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/156 "2010-10-12T14:58:52Z")
> [@](#): > > I wrote: “people like you”, not YOU. It matters not one whit whether or not you’re affiliated with the Tea Party, but rather that the Tea Party is full of people like you. You think you know me, do you? Or are you snapping to conclusions based on reading a day’s worth of my silly comments? Is that not the behaviour of an idiot? Granted, I can see how the “diaperhead” comment would be insulting to some people, especially people like my grandparents, but what the hell…they’re dead. What is your beef with it? Are you Muslim? Or do you just feel an aching in your loins to defend people who put laundry on their heads? > [@](#): > > Idiots. One or two, I’d give you. Three, maybe. Four, possibly. But from the articles linked in this thread, from your posts, from the news accounts, the signs at the rallys, the actions of its leaders before they tried to mainstream, all are good evidence. How many of their rallies did you have to attend to reach your conclusion? > [@](#): > > You still don’t get it, do you? Don’t worry, I think a vast majority of the Tea Partiers don’t get it either. The only way to know would be to talk to them. > [@](#): > > Statements that “black people are getting smart” and “working to better themselves” are simply prejudiced inanities, spouted by an ignoramous. The underlying assumptions, that “black people” are just now “getting smart and working to better themselves” and “liberal whites” aren’t are simply divisive rhetoric that appeals to the stupid. No wonder they appeal to you. Try to look beyond the color of someone’s skin, it will open up a whole new world for you. What color skin should I look at? I’m seeing a lovely shade of brown in the mirror. > [@](#): > > I think anyone who uses that term outside of specific exceptions is a mental incompetent. That includes you. And what exceptions do the rules of your little world allow? For instance, would it be OK for me to say nigger, if I flunked the paper bag test? > [@](#): > > There are two lengthy articles in this thread alone. There are likewise dozens of other articles about interviews with people who show up at these events. There are photos of the leaders with racist signs, there’s video of the interviews. There are all kinds of source material that I’ve read. An unbiased opinion would be useful. I would suggest attending one of the Tea Party rallies, if you feel strongly about it; however, you might be the wrong color to attend one in Mississippi or Memphis. Dey ain’t nuttin’ but eyes and teeth in da night, baby! Dig? ---
**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/157 "2010-10-12T15:10:59Z")
Looks like they’re fueling me now, time to go back to work, so I will have to leave you with some links to “both” of the black people in the Tea Party. I’m sure they can speak for themselves…black folks are pretty smart these days. > **[Why I am a black Tea Party patriot opposed to Barack Obama | Lloyd Marcus](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/lloyd-marcus-tea-party-blog/2010/oct/08/lloyd-marcus-tea-party)** > > Lloyd Marcus: I've seen lives ruined by the welfare dependency backed by this Democratic president. We need the dignity of self-reliance [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/P1CLPhz0DHM/maxresdefault.jpg "Tea Party Racism??") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1CLPhz0DHM) [http://www.google.com/images?q=black+tea+party&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&oe=UTF-8&rlz=1I7TSHB&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=TXm0TPb4D4bGlQebqM3DCg&sa=X&oi=image\_result\_group&ct=title&resnum=5&ved=0CEAQsAQwBA&biw=1047&bih=558](http://www.google.com/images?q=black+tea+party&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&oe=UTF-8&rlz=1I7TSHB&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=TXm0TPb4D4bGlQebqM3DCg&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=5&ved=0CEAQsAQwBA&biw=1047&bih=558) [http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38558455/](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38558455/) Shalom, shucran, salut! ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/158 "2010-10-12T15:14:13Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > An unbiased opinion would be useful. I would suggest attending one of the Tea Party rallies, if you feel strongly about it; however, you might be the wrong color to attend one in Mississippi or Memphis. Dey ain’t nuttin’ but eyes and teeth in da night, baby! Dig? Wow. Seriously, wow. Where the hell are you from that your mother raised you to talk like that? Also… [http://photos.thememphisteaparty.com/GalleryThumbnails.aspx?gallery=204343](http://photos.thememphisteaparty.com/GalleryThumbnails.aspx?gallery=204343) ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/159 "2010-10-12T15:35:06Z")
> [@Morella](#): > > You think you know me, do you? Or are you snapping to conclusions based on reading a day’s worth of my silly comments? Yes. That’s all I’m going on, what you’ve posted here. That’s kinda what happens on message boards. Maybe in real life you’re an intelligent, well spoken, un-prejudiced brain surgeon with a 7 figure income. But here, on this message board, you appear to be an ignorant, prejudiced fuckwit who is wasting my time. > [@Morella](#): > > Granted, I can see how the “diaperhead” comment would be insulting to some people, especially people like my grandparents, but what the hell…they’re dead. What is your beef with it? Are you Muslim? Or do you just feel an aching in your loins to defend people who put laundry on their heads? You ever see Monsters Inc.? There’s a throw away line where two monsters are making a bit of a fools of themselves, and one turns to the other and tells him “You’re making it worse!!!” Can’t imagine why that popped into my head. > [@Morella](#): > > And what exceptions do the rules of your little world allow? For one, when discussing the history and effect of the word itself. For another, using it to tell some lying sack of internet trollling loser that using that word makes them look like a blithering idiot. [QUOTE=Morella] An unbiased opinion would be useful. I would suggest attending one of the Tea Party rallies, if you feel strongly about it; however, you might be the wrong color to attend one in Mississippi or Memphis. Dey ain’t nuttin’ but eyes and teeth in da night, baby! Dig? [/QUOTE] You don’t need any help digging. That hole you’re in is getting deeper and deeper every time you post. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760/160 "2010-10-12T15:43:24Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > How come every Tea Partier who makes an offensive remark gets labeled a “champion” or “hero” of the Tea Party around here? The Tea Party is made up of millions of people with a wide range of opinions, beliefs, backgrounds, education and income levels. But let one person at a Tea Party rally or one candidate say something offensive, or foolish, or hold up a wrongly worded sign, and immediately they become the personification of the Tea Party. > > Why is that, I facetiously wonder? :dubious: Carl “Horse Porn” Paladino (yes, that is now his legal name) is a Tea Party **candidate.** For the governorship of a major state. If **he** cannot speak as a TP representative, then, pray **do** tell us, just hypothetically speaking, the names of some persons or entities whom you would recognize as speaking for the movement, such that the plausible deniability outlined above does **not** apply. Because if nobody can speak for the TP to its discredit, then nobody can speak for the TP to its credit either – can anyone? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tea-party-is-not-socially-conservative-my-ass/556760.md?page=9)