# The Team Makes the QB, not Vice-Versa

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** football-nfl\
**Created:** [February 10, 2025, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-team-makes-the-qb-not-vice-versa/1014129 "2025-02-10T13:01:29Z")\
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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2025, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-team-makes-the-qb-not-vice-versa/1014129/41 "2025-02-20T18:59:19Z")

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> [@Jasmine](#):
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> When the Bears got Jay Cutler from Denver, no less a legend than John Elway said he thought it was the best trade the Bears ever made.

Given Elway’s less-than-stellar quarterback draft picks when he was the Broncos GM, that’s rather faint praise.

Elway made one great move as GM, and that was signing Peyton Manning when he was a free agent. But drafting quarterbacks Brock Osweiler, Trevor Siemian, Paxton Lynch, and Chad Kelly don’t rate terribly high on the eye-for-talent meter. In the 2018 draft, Elway chose DE Bradley Chubb with the #5 pick overall. Two picks later, the Bills selected Josh Allen.

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