# The TEENAGED female members of this group are kissing on their own website. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 22, 2002, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-teenaged-female-members-of-this-group-are-kissing-on-their-own-website/144390 "2002-12-22T15:56:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Lizard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@Lizard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lizard)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2002, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-teenaged-female-members-of-this-group-are-kissing-on-their-own-website/144390/1 "2002-12-22T15:56:50Z")
The group is this Russian pop duo called “Tatu.” What I am referring to (it is not pornographic, unless you’re Southern Baptist) is here My first reaction to this was _WTF_? If they were a group of ADULTS like Lords of Acid, whose act is heavily sexualized, that would be different. But these are _teenaged girls_ for crying out loud, whose videos are shown on MTV Russia! (Scroll down this page. One is 16, the other 17.) I was uncomfortable enough when Britney Spears, then only 16, was baring her midriff and shaking her ass to sell albums. But THIS. . . I mean, I just can’t think of a good reason for this except exploitation. [Mod - I guess this is sort-of a rant. Please move to the Pit if it seems appropriate. I thought that given the subject matter, it belonged here, but I could be wrong.] ---
**Author:** ![Arden\_Ranger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b487fb/32.png) [@Arden\_Ranger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arden_Ranger)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2002, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-teenaged-female-members-of-this-group-are-kissing-on-their-own-website/144390/2 "2002-12-22T16:02:43Z")
I’m not sure I see the problem here. It’s not like 16 and 17 year olds don’t kiss. ---
**Author:** ![CastleAnthrax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecd19e/32.png) [@CastleAnthrax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CastleAnthrax)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2002, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-teenaged-female-members-of-this-group-are-kissing-on-their-own-website/144390/3 "2002-12-22T16:03:32Z")
Looks fairly innocent to me. I’d far rather see this than watch Britney shake her half-clad butt. ---
**Author:** ![Lizard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@Lizard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lizard)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2002, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-teenaged-female-members-of-this-group-are-kissing-on-their-own-website/144390/4 "2002-12-22T16:11:22Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Arden Ranger \* > \*\*I’m not sure I see the problem here. It’s not like 16 and 17 year olds don’t kiss. \*\* So, there’s nothign wrong with so blatantly exploiting the sexuality of children to sell albums? What if they were 12 and 13? ---
**Author:** ![minty\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@minty\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minty_green)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2002, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-teenaged-female-members-of-this-group-are-kissing-on-their-own-website/144390/5 "2002-12-22T16:24:19Z")
“What if it was something totally different than what it is?” ---
**Author:** ![Arden\_Ranger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b487fb/32.png) [@Arden\_Ranger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arden_Ranger)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2002, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-teenaged-female-members-of-this-group-are-kissing-on-their-own-website/144390/6 "2002-12-22T16:33:26Z")
My 16 year old daughter has a picture of her kissing her girlfriend. No one set it up or told them to do it. They’re rather fond of the picture and it’s displayed prominately in my daughter’s room. I fail to see how this is exploitation ---
**Author:** ![The\_Controvert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dec6dc/32.png) [@The\_Controvert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Controvert)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2002, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-teenaged-female-members-of-this-group-are-kissing-on-their-own-website/144390/7 "2002-12-22T16:46:57Z")
> [@](#): > > So, there’s nothign wrong with so blatantly exploiting the sexuality of children to sell albums? What if they were 12 and 13? This [Nirvana album cover](http://www.marko.net/phish/nrvmain/bignever.jpg) shows a baby’s wang… is it kiddie porn? ---
**Author:** ![fizgig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f04885/32.png) [@fizgig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fizgig)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2002, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-teenaged-female-members-of-this-group-are-kissing-on-their-own-website/144390/8 "2002-12-22T17:04:25Z")
If they were 18 would it be OK? Would it be OK if it was a boy and a girl kissing? Correct me if I’m wrong, but in many other countries, the age of sexual consent is lower than in the U.S., so I guess 16 and 17 year olds can be seen kissing there, but not here? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2002, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-teenaged-female-members-of-this-group-are-kissing-on-their-own-website/144390/9 "2002-12-22T17:05:19Z")
Lizard, If it were a boy and a girl instead of 2 girls, would that be OK, or would you still have a problem with it? ---
**Author:** ![Keith\_Berry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/22d042/32.png) [@Keith\_Berry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Keith_Berry)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2002, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-teenaged-female-members-of-this-group-are-kissing-on-their-own-website/144390/10 "2002-12-22T18:41:52Z")
Actually, the average age of consent in the United States is 16. In some areas, it is as low as 13 or 14. ---
**Author:** ![Berkut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a88e57/32.png) [@Berkut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Berkut)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2002, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-teenaged-female-members-of-this-group-are-kissing-on-their-own-website/144390/11 "2002-12-22T19:34:37Z")
Someone posted some pictures of this group on Fark not too long ago. If you are only complaining about the kissing, you haven’t seen anything yet. ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2002, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-teenaged-female-members-of-this-group-are-kissing-on-their-own-website/144390/12 "2002-12-22T19:35:51Z")
[George Costanza] I think it moved. [/George Costanza] ---
**Author:** ![Crusoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/49beb7/32.png) [@Crusoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crusoe)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2002, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-teenaged-female-members-of-this-group-are-kissing-on-their-own-website/144390/13 "2002-12-22T20:29:07Z")
Good grief. (1) As others have said, what happens is perfectly legal in many countries. (2) Using teenage sex to sell? Whatever next! Thank heavens Britney, Christina et al never implied teenage sexuality to sell videos. C’mon. This is nothing shocking. Sure, it’s more obvious than many videos, but I don’t see the problem. ---
**Author:** ![Kantalooppi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a5b964/32.png) [@Kantalooppi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kantalooppi)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2002, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-teenaged-female-members-of-this-group-are-kissing-on-their-own-website/144390/14 "2002-12-22T20:31:05Z")
I think that more serious problem is that their name is “Tatu”, since that happens to be my name, too. I fear that there are only more “Hey Tatu, do you listen to… Tatu? Hur hur hur” jokes coming along in the road. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2002, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-teenaged-female-members-of-this-group-are-kissing-on-their-own-website/144390/15 "2002-12-22T20:40:02Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Lizard \* > \*\*So, there’s nothign wrong with so blatantly exploiting the sexuality of children to sell albums? What if they were 12 and 13? \*\* Ever see “Blind Faith?” Clue: Kissing isn’t sex. ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2002, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-teenaged-female-members-of-this-group-are-kissing-on-their-own-website/144390/16 "2002-12-22T20:48:12Z")
I also completely fail to see a problem here. ---
**Author:** ![Crusoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/49beb7/32.png) [@Crusoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crusoe)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2002, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-teenaged-female-members-of-this-group-are-kissing-on-their-own-website/144390/17 "2002-12-22T20:48:28Z")
> [@](#): > > What if they were 12 and 13? They’re not. So? ---
**Author:** ![Rysdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7cd45c/32.png) [@Rysdad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysdad)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2002, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-teenaged-female-members-of-this-group-are-kissing-on-their-own-website/144390/18 "2002-12-22T20:54:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Keith Berry \* > \*\*Actually, the average age of consent in the United States is 16. In some areas, it is as low as 13 or 14. \*\* [Fourteen in a couple.](http://www.webistry.net/jan/consent.html) Didn’t see any thirteens. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2002, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-teenaged-female-members-of-this-group-are-kissing-on-their-own-website/144390/19 "2002-12-22T20:57:00Z")
What was the OP expecting? Us to get the vapours and faint? People who think they can push my “outrage” button amuse me. ---
**Author:** ![XJETGIRLX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9fc29f/32.png) [@XJETGIRLX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XJETGIRLX)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2002, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-teenaged-female-members-of-this-group-are-kissing-on-their-own-website/144390/20 "2002-12-22T21:03:03Z")
I think what’s so controversial about this group goes a little beyond kissing…that’s actually pretty tame. According to different sources, they’ve admitted to, or at least failed to dispel rumors that they are lovers, which if they were of age shouldn’t be a big deal. Here’s a [link](http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/columns/paterson/story/0,12234,752884,00.html) to an article about them. I think the creepiest part is that they were manufactured a la some of our American boybands by a former psychologist. Sounds like a creepy experiment of some sort to me. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-teenaged-female-members-of-this-group-are-kissing-on-their-own-website/144390.md?page=2)