# The terrible "Yea, I Hate That!" game **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 25, 2013, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-terrible-yea-i-hate-that-game/667133 "2013-08-25T16:07:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2013, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-terrible-yea-i-hate-that-game/667133/1 "2013-08-25T16:07:44Z")
Inspired by the fact that no work of art, film, music, literature, or television can ever be mentioned in Cafe Society, or probably anywhere else on the Internet, without someone trashing it, I propose the following game. I will name a work of art, film, music, literature, or television that is reasonably mainstream–esoterica not allowed. I will be the sole judge of whether something is too esoteric or non-mainstream to garner legitimate responses. Posters will respond with “I hate that!” or “I love that!” If you have no opinion about it, well, I suppose that means you have no reason to post, either. Wait for something you do have an opinion about. If you love it, you can effuse about it all you like. But you can only propose a follow-up work of art, film, music, literature, or television if you respond with “I hate that!” You’re on the honor system as to sincerely hating it. Fake hating something would just be cheating. To prove you hate it, you also have to explain why, and be convincing. Then, you may suggest a new work of art, film, music, literature, or television. Your suggestion must be some work of art, film, music, literature, or television that you love. It must be reasonably mainstream (see above). We’ll define “mainstream” as “commonly appreciated by a wide range of people in Western society.” Here we go. **Symphony No. 9 in D minor, op. 125, by Ludwig van Beethoven**. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2013, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-terrible-yea-i-hate-that-game/667133/2 "2013-08-25T16:11:40Z")
And oops, this should be in the game room. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2013, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-terrible-yea-i-hate-that-game/667133/3 "2013-08-25T16:13:15Z")
> [@Knorf](#): > > And oops, this should be in the game room. > :smack: 'Tis now. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2013, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-terrible-yea-i-hate-that-game/667133/4 "2013-08-25T18:10:22Z")
> [@Knorf](#): > > **Symphony No. 9 in D minor, op. 125, by Ludwig van Beethoven**. Whole thing or the final movement? I love the final movement, but can think of other entire symphonies he wrote that are better. However, the final movement is his masterpiece, at least IMHO. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2013, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-terrible-yea-i-hate-that-game/667133/5 "2013-08-25T20:29:45Z")
Yeah, like Beethoven is mainstream these days… I bet more people under 30 know of the dog movies than the musician. ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2013, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-terrible-yea-i-hate-that-game/667133/6 "2013-08-25T20:46:44Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Whole thing or the final movement? I love the final movement, but can think of other entire symphonies he wrote that are better. Concur. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2013, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-terrible-yea-i-hate-that-game/667133/7 "2013-08-25T20:54:47Z")
So, none of you who hate it are going to provide the next thing? I hate that. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2013, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-terrible-yea-i-hate-that-game/667133/8 "2013-08-25T22:25:36Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > So, none of you who hate it are going to provide the next thing? I hate that. No one has hated it yet. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-terrible-yea-i-hate-that-game/667133/9 "2013-08-26T00:11:10Z")
Geesh, maybe I should pick something more easily hated… ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 9:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-terrible-yea-i-hate-that-game/667133/10 "2013-08-26T09:10:20Z")
I’m a singer but I’ve never sing that work, and I don’t hate it. However, I know some singers do, so I’m sure one will be along in due course. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 9:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-terrible-yea-i-hate-that-game/667133/11 "2013-08-26T09:55:48Z")
> [@Knorf](#): > > It must be reasonably mainstream… > > **Symphony No. 9 in D minor, op. 125, by Ludwig van Beethoven**. I see what you did there. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-terrible-yea-i-hate-that-game/667133/12 "2013-08-26T12:09:11Z")
> [@Knorf](#): > > Geesh, maybe I should pick something more easily hated… Probably. And, folks, by mainstream I think the poster meant well-known. Everybody knows the 9th symphony(again, at least the final movement). ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-terrible-yea-i-hate-that-game/667133/13 "2013-08-26T12:39:31Z")
Sure, but a vanishingly small percentage of them know what’s it called, and even fewer of them have a strong opinion of it one way or the other. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-terrible-yea-i-hate-that-game/667133/14 "2013-08-26T12:46:35Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Probably. > > And, folks, by mainstream I think the poster meant well-known. Everybody knows the 9th symphony(again, at least the final movement). I don’t know it. I might recognize the final movement if you hum a few bars. And don’t send me to Youtube. I can’t get there from here. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-terrible-yea-i-hate-that-game/667133/15 "2013-08-26T13:50:40Z")
It’s the da-da-da-DUMMM! symphony. (You know, the four notes of Beethoven everyone actually knows). ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-terrible-yea-i-hate-that-game/667133/16 "2013-08-26T14:04:25Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > It’s the da-da-da-DUMMM! symphony. (You know, the four notes of Beethoven everyone actually knows). No, it isn’t. That’s Beethoven’s more famous 5th SYmphony. The 9th is the one which closes with the famed “Ode to Joy.” The first movement used to be used regularly as the opening music for six o’clock news broadcasts. I neither love it nor hate it. I would probably love it if portions of it hadn’t been played to death already. But Beethoven’s 9th is one of those pieces I’ve just heard to many times in too many contexts to appreciatie it any more. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-terrible-yea-i-hate-that-game/667133/17 "2013-08-26T14:32:44Z")
Alright. Maybe giving the proper title to Beethoven’s Ninth Symphony was at fault in part. ETA: I feel certain I’ve read someone trashing it on the SDMB, but whoever it was hasn’t wandered over here. Let’s try something else. Still music though. It’d be nice to get this started! **Bob Dylan, Blonde on Blonde** ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-terrible-yea-i-hate-that-game/667133/18 "2013-08-26T14:56:47Z")
A little overrated, in my opinion, but the good stuff is brilliant, and even some of the weaker songs are fun. Like it. ---
**Author:** ![Renee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/renee/32/287_2.png) [@Renee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Renee)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-terrible-yea-i-hate-that-game/667133/19 "2013-08-26T15:00:09Z")
I hate Beethoven! Pretty much all classical music, actually. I have ever since 6th grade, when my teacher made us listen to it for hours every day, loudly. It disrupted my concentration, and drove me nuts. I really don’t like any strictly instrumental music to this day. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-terrible-yea-i-hate-that-game/667133/20 "2013-08-26T15:05:02Z")
I think the individual movements of the 9th are at the bare minimum “good” but work better separately than as part of an integrated work. Whereas I haven’t listened to Blonde on Blonde in its entirety so I don’t know if it works as an album. But many other albums work better together, even if they’re not theme albums, than the movements of the 9th do, to me! [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-terrible-yea-i-hate-that-game/667133.md?page=2)