# The Third Jihad-recommended viewing

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-third-jihad-recommended-viewing/546953>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 16, 2010, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-third-jihad-recommended-viewing/546953 "2010-07-16T18:28:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 10

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-third-jihad-recommended-viewing/546953/181 "2010-07-19T18:35:15Z")

</div>

> [@magellan01](#):
>
> Good for you. But you’re overlooking the fact that Muslim apologists are another group we should be wary of, maybe even more so. So, you certainly or in a predicament: ignore the Muslim who is taking positive steps to stop his religion from being hijacked, or ignore your own little voice in your head. The one whose infatuation with being Politically Correct prevents him from adopting a mindset that will make America safer.
> 
> Decisions, decisions…

After all that you’ve read from those who have done research, these are the only two choices?

False decisions, false decisions…

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-third-jihad-recommended-viewing/546953/182 "2010-07-19T18:47:47Z")

</div>

> [@Czarcasm](#):
>
> After all that you’ve read from those who have done research, these are the only two choices?
> 
> False decisions, false decisions…

You really don’t know what the fuck you are talking about, do you? There is nothing that has/had been offered that conflicts with what I proposed. Feel free to go check. Just be sure to include words I actually wrote.

Oh, and it’s quite magnanimous for you to try to come to someone else’s defense when you seem unable to come to your own. As in the nonsense of yours that I pointed out in Post 126.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-third-jihad-recommended-viewing/546953/183 "2010-07-19T22:23:30Z")

</div>

> [@Czarcasm](#):
>
> the handful of Xanax

Speaking of lame sequels… Clint phoned it in on that one.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-third-jihad-recommended-viewing/546953/184 "2010-07-19T22:29:55Z")

</div>

I have little doubt that the gentleman in the video’s motivation is to stop his religion from being hijacked. But correctly recognising one negative aspect doesn’t, unfortunetly, make one an expert. It’s not enough for someone to say, “hey, we have some problems, here”, and so earn everyone rallying around you. Simply being on the same team doesn’t mean you’re a good team player, if that makes any sense. **Der Trihs** is a fellow atheist, but he doesn’t really do “my” side any favours.

And as a general point, I still hate the “You don’t just disagree with me; you have some ulterior motivation or flaw or unright-thinkingness which means you don’t” idea. It’s cheap.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Rysdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7cd45c/32.png) [@Rysdad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysdad)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-third-jihad-recommended-viewing/546953/185 "2010-07-20T01:04:19Z")

</div>

> [@Encinitas](#):
>
> I hear they are very slimming.

Burqa: What you get when you cross a muumuu with a hoodie.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-third-jihad-recommended-viewing/546953/186 "2010-07-20T02:18:36Z")

</div>

> [@magellan01](#):
>
> Good for you. But you’re overlooking the fact that Muslim apologists are another group we should be wary of, maybe even more so. So, you certainly or in a predicament: ignore the Muslim who is taking positive steps to stop his religion from being hijacked, or ignore your own little voice in your head. The one whose infatuation with being Politically Correct prevents him from adopting a mindset that will make America safer.
> 
> Decisions, decisions…

Silly.

I pay attention to actual Muslims who are willing to discuss all aspects of their religion (and all sects within it) rather tha paying attention to shills for Beck and company.

And your insinuation that I have a “voice in my head” that is infatuated by Political Correctness is nothing more than a projection of your xenophobia. I have never demonstrated any Political Correctness although I am sure that you would characterize any attempt to eschew xenophobia as “PC.”

(I do thank you for propounding, earlier, that we need to be wary of the entire Right Wing of American politics so that we can avoid any more Yanks blowing up Federal Buildings, however.)

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-third-jihad-recommended-viewing/546953/187 "2010-07-20T02:29:38Z")

</div>

_It was the Third Jihad  
another sleepy dusty Tehran daay-ay  
I was plotting with the mullahs  
and my brothers were bidding on E-baay-ay_

I’ll work on it.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![maladroit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f475e1/32.png) [@maladroit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/maladroit)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-third-jihad-recommended-viewing/546953/188 "2010-07-20T16:52:58Z")

</div>

> [@Kyla](#):
>
> When I was in India last summer, I saw this woman wearing a burqa decorated with lots of sparkly blue sequins. If my burqa can also be covered in sequins, I would appreciate that.
> 
> kthnxbye

I have muslim neighbors across the street, and she wears some really pretty clothes. Yesterday she was wearing something magenta with embroidery around the neckline, and a hijab. I am envious. I would just look silly in that.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![maladroit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f475e1/32.png) [@maladroit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/maladroit)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-third-jihad-recommended-viewing/546953/189 "2010-07-20T17:01:47Z")

</div>

In case any one’s curious, we talk about our families, our pets, the weather, we say hello and how are you. We don’t talk about religion or politics. As far as I know they’re vegetarian, and they don’t drink or smoke. ( That’s what his cousin told me.) They’re great neighbors. They are the grandson, and his wife and child, of our former neighbors, senior citizens that relocated because of health issues. In other words, these muslims are not “they” or 'them" or “other”, they’re a continuation of a really nice family in my little neighborhood.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-third-jihad-recommended-viewing/546953/190 "2010-07-20T17:11:29Z")

</div>

It would behoove you to be wary of vegetarians.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-third-jihad-recommended-viewing/546953/191 "2010-07-20T17:23:03Z")

</div>

> [@tomndebb](#):
>
> I was thinking of watching the video, but since it is by a Muslim, (of whom I should be wary), I figured I could probably not trust it, anyway.

For some reason, probably because he is a doctor, he can be trusted. Other Muslims can not. And buy a toothbrush.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-third-jihad-recommended-viewing/546953/192 "2010-07-20T18:24:46Z")

</div>

> [@Kobal2](#):
>
> It would behoove you to be wary of vegetarians.

[del]Hitler[/del] Lord Voldemort was a vegetarian. We should certainly be wary, but in a non-specific sort of fashion.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2010, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-third-jihad-recommended-viewing/546953/193 "2010-07-21T02:17:14Z")

</div>

> [@tomndebb](#):
>
> Silly.

Silly. Silly.

Wow that’s easy!

> [@tomndebb](#):
>
> I pay attention to actual Muslims who are willing to discuss all aspects of their religion (and all sects within it) rather tha paying attention to shills for Beck and company.

Newsflash: the guy in question _is_ an _actual_ Muslim. Imagine that! And discussing the myriad aspects of the religion is precisely what he’s doing. Tell me, what makes him less than an actual muslim for you. What bona fides does he, in your estimation, lack.

> [@tomndebb](#):
>
> And your insinuation that I have a “voice in my head” that is infatuated by Political Correctness is nothing more than a projection of your xenophobia. I have never demonstrated any Political Correctness although I am sure that you would characterize any attempt to eschew xenophobia as “PC.”

It was more than an insinuation.

> [@tomndebb](#):
>
> (I do thank you for propounding, earlier, that we need to be wary of the entire Right Wing of American politics so that we can avoid any more Yanks blowing up Federal Buildings, however.)

Huh? Cite as to what the hell you’re talking about, please.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2010, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-third-jihad-recommended-viewing/546953/194 "2010-07-21T02:21:14Z")

</div>

> [@Kobal2](#):
>
> It would behoove you to be wary of vegetarians.

Why is that? If you can point to the numerous murders of innocents they have committed in the name of vegetarianism, and then show me that about a quarter of American vegetarians think that those acts are somehow acceptable, I’ll move them over into the wary column right away. Whatcha got?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2010, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-third-jihad-recommended-viewing/546953/195 "2010-07-21T03:05:34Z")

</div>

> [@magellan01](#):
>
> Huh? Cite as to what the hell you’re talking about, please.

It was rather obviously a reference to Timothy McVeigh, and pointing out that if some Muslims blowing things up means you should be terrified of all Muslims, then you should likewise be terrified of right wingers because some of them blow things up. But I’m sure you already knew that.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2010, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-third-jihad-recommended-viewing/546953/196 "2010-07-21T03:49:41Z")

</div>

> [@magellan01](#):
>
> Why is that? If you can point to the numerous murders of innocents they have committed in the name of vegetarianism, and then show me that about a quarter of American vegetarians think that those acts are somehow acceptable, I’ll move them over into the wary column right away. Whatcha got?

**Joke**  
Pronunciation: \ˈjōk  
Function: _noun_  
Etymology: Latin _jocus;_ perhaps akin to Old High German _gehan_ to say, Sanskrit _yācati_ he asks  
Date: 1670  
**1 a**  **:** something said or done to provoke laughter; _especially_ **:** a brief oral narrative with a climactic humorous twist \*b \*_(1)_ **:** the humorous or ridiculous element in something _(2)_ **:** an instance of jesting **:** [kidding](http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/kidding) \<can’t take a joke\> **c**  **:** [practical joke](http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/practical+joke) **d**  **:** [laughingstock](http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/laughingstock)  
**2**** : **something not to be taken seriously** :** a trifling matter \<consider his skiing a joke — Harold Callender\> —often used in negative constructions \<it is no joke to be lost in the desert\>

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2010, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-third-jihad-recommended-viewing/546953/197 "2010-07-21T04:11:54Z")

</div>

Well, after reading the exchanges here, I’m convinced. From now on, any time I see someone who looks like they might be muslim, I’m gonna given 'em The Eye. You know, just so they know I’m wary of them.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2010, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-third-jihad-recommended-viewing/546953/198 "2010-07-21T04:30:20Z")

</div>

Does the OP have any ponr to recommend? 'cause even if (Muslim?) lesbians are involved I’ll be sure to skip it.  
Pardon me while I…  
_::::yaaawn::::_

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2010, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-third-jihad-recommended-viewing/546953/199 "2010-07-21T04:51:49Z")

</div>

> [@Kobal2](#):
>
> **Joke**  
> Pronunciation: \ˈjōk  
> Function: _noun_  
> Etymology: Latin _jocus;_ perhaps akin to Old High German _gehan_ to say, Sanskrit _yācati_ he asks  
> Date: 1670  
> **1 a**  **:** something said or done to provoke laughter; _especially_ **:** a brief oral narrative with a climactic humorous twist \*b \*_(1)_ **:** the humorous or ridiculous element in something _(2)_ **:** an instance of jesting **:** [kidding](http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/kidding) \<can’t take a joke\> **c**  **:** [practical joke](http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/practical+joke) **d**  **:** [laughingstock](http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/laughingstock)  
> **2**** : **something not to be taken seriously** :** a trifling matter \<consider his skiing a joke — Harold Callender\> —often used in negative constructions \<it is no joke to be lost in the desert\>

Well, you seemed to be using humor to try to make a point. Since you say you weren’t, never mind.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2010, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-third-jihad-recommended-viewing/546953/200 "2010-07-21T04:59:42Z")

</div>

> [@Kobal2](#):
>
> **Joke**  
> Pronunciation: \ˈjōk  
> Function: _noun_  
> Etymology: Latin _jocus;_ perhaps akin to Old High German _gehan_ to say, Sanskrit _yācati_ he asks  
> Date: 1670  
> **1 a**  **:** something said or done to provoke laughter; _especially_ **:** a brief oral narrative with a climactic humorous twist \*b \*_(1)_ **:** the humorous or ridiculous element in something _(2)_ **:** an instance of jesting **:** [kidding](http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/kidding) \<can’t take a joke\> **c**  **:** [practical joke](http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/practical+joke) **d**  **:** [laughingstock](http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/laughingstock)  
> **2**** : **something not to be taken seriously** :** a trifling matter \<consider his skiing a joke — Harold Callender\> —often used in negative constructions \<it is no joke to be lost in the desert\>

:applause:

[Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-third-jihad-recommended-viewing/546953.md?page=9)

[Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-third-jihad-recommended-viewing/546953.md?page=11)
