# The Third Jihad-recommended viewing **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 16, 2010, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-third-jihad-recommended-viewing/546953 "2010-07-16T18:28:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2010, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-third-jihad-recommended-viewing/546953/161 "2010-07-18T22:36:59Z")
> [@Skeleton10](#): > > Got 30 minutes? pop a handfull of Xanax and plop down for a cold dose of reality.. > > [OKTOGEL : Situs Slot Gacor | Bandar Togel | Judi Toto Macau](http://www.snagfilms.com/films/title/the_third_jihad/) How is it, when I see a thread like this I know the OP’s join date will be the current month? -Joe ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2010, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-third-jihad-recommended-viewing/546953/162 "2010-07-18T22:39:47Z")
Does the video finally put to rest the fiction that Obams is not a Muslim, and that he’s the secret leader of the 3rd jihad (and well into the planning stages of the 4th)? ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2010, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-third-jihad-recommended-viewing/546953/163 "2010-07-18T23:10:21Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Does the video finally put to rest the fiction that Obams is not a Muslim, and that he’s the secret leader of the 3rd jihad (and well into the planning stages of the 4th)? Doesn’t touch the subject either way. ---
**Author:** ![Girl\_From\_Mars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3da27b/32.png) [@Girl\_From\_Mars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Girl_From_Mars)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-third-jihad-recommended-viewing/546953/164 "2010-07-19T01:09:15Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > OK, I watched the movie: I can’t be bothered, but question for those of you that have watched it - the linked to clip is apparently 30 minutes long, but the review Ivan posted said the documentary was 72 minutes long. Is it possible from what you saw that this has been severely edited to show a less balanced view than the original film? ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-third-jihad-recommended-viewing/546953/165 "2010-07-19T03:42:46Z")
I was thinking of watching the video, but since it is by a Muslim, (of whom I should be wary), I figured I could probably not trust it, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-third-jihad-recommended-viewing/546953/166 "2010-07-19T04:49:50Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > So basically the video is saying “Let’s oppress them before they oppress us”, is that about it? Well its by a Muslim, so I don’t think he’s trying to get us to oppress Muslims but I do think he wants us to invade Islamic countries and turn them all into Turkey. > [@Girl\_From\_Mars](#): > > I can’t be bothered, but question for those of you that have watched it - the linked to clip is apparently 30 minutes long, but the review Ivan posted said the documentary was 72 minutes long. Is it possible from what you saw that this has been severely edited to show a less balanced view than the original film? Well, the end of the movie shills for a paid version of the movie so I think its probably more of a teaser. Your life is in DANGER from the Muslim threat, for $X I can tell you what to do about it. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-third-jihad-recommended-viewing/546953/167 "2010-07-19T04:59:14Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Well its by a Muslim, so I don’t think he’s trying to get us to oppress Muslims but I do think he wants us to invade Islamic countries and turn them all into Turkey. Turkey already tried that. Worked for a while, but fell apart eventually. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-third-jihad-recommended-viewing/546953/168 "2010-07-19T05:08:25Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Well its by a Muslim, so I don’t think he’s trying to get us to oppress Muslims but I do think he wants us to invade Islamic countries and turn them all into Turkey. I haven’t seen it, but the wikipedia article on it describes Dr. Jasser’s role in the project as “narration.” It does not list him as the writer, director, or producer. Does the version in the OP’s link credit him with a creative role in the documentary? If not, it might be “by a Muslim” in the same sense that _Expelled_ was “by Ben Stein.” ---
**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-third-jihad-recommended-viewing/546953/169 "2010-07-19T05:31:12Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > I haven’t seen it, but the wikipedia article on it describes Dr. Jasser’s role in the project as “narration.” It does not list him as the writer, director, or producer. Correct, he is simply the narrator, as well as being Fox and Glenn Beck’s favorite “muslim of choice” when they want one that will stand by them. As for the actual people behind the film, you can start with [Aish HaTorah](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aish_Hatorah). I guess it’s possible that an ultra-orthodox Jewish organization that has been described as “just about the most fundamentalist movement in Judaism today” can put together an unbiased film about Islam, but they wouldn’t be my first choice. ---
**Author:** ![kidneyfailure](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9f8e36/32.png) [@kidneyfailure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidneyfailure)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-third-jihad-recommended-viewing/546953/170 "2010-07-19T11:02:07Z")
> [@orcenio](#): > > \“This time… It’s **Koranical**!”\ “And Rex Hamilton as Ayman Al-Zawahiri!” ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-third-jihad-recommended-viewing/546953/171 "2010-07-19T12:32:49Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Then he goes into the “true agenda” of the muslim leadership here in America. Its not just “voilent Jihad” (which he can’t seem to make a really good case for) it is also “cultural Jihad” > > its a conspiracy among muslim leaders to take over the country. > > The movie makes a big deal of the reluctance of mainstream muslim community leaders (who denounce terrorism) to categorically denounce Hamas and Hezbollah and not just the terrorists in Hamas and Hezbollah. > > It points to a document by the muslim brotherhood that goes on to list mainstream muslim groups as potential accomplices in creating a global caliphate. > > He is basically saying that the moderate muslims in America are not really moderate. they are secret radicals that are all in cahoots with muslim brotherhood. Coming this fall : the Protocols of the Elders of Mecca ! ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-third-jihad-recommended-viewing/546953/172 "2010-07-19T12:49:00Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > I was thinking of watching the video, but since it is by a Muslim, (of whom I should be wary), I figured I could probably not trust it, anyway. Nonsense! Renegades from any movement/religion/political persuasion are _by definition_ the most undeniably trustworthy sources one can find! (Roe of Roe v. Wade comes to mind). We luvs apostates!! ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-third-jihad-recommended-viewing/546953/173 "2010-07-19T14:12:22Z")
> [@DMC](#): > > Correct, he is simply the narrator, as well as being Fox and Glenn Beck’s favorite “muslim of choice” when they want one that will stand by them. > > As for the actual people behind the film, you can start with [Aish HaTorah](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aish_Hatorah). I guess it’s possible that an ultra-orthodox Jewish organization that has been described as “just about the most fundamentalist movement in Judaism today” can put together an unbiased film about Islam, but they wouldn’t be my first choice. Well that explains a lot. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-third-jihad-recommended-viewing/546953/174 "2010-07-19T14:18:15Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Coming this fall : the Protocols of the Elders of Mecca ! Yep. If you stripped out all the stuff where Muslims were killing children or teaching children to kill, you were left with Muslims beating women and conspiring to conquer the world by PRETENDING they aren’t violent psychopaths… but not all of them jsut the ones that believe in Islam, we’re not bigots or anything, we even have a muslim narrator. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-third-jihad-recommended-viewing/546953/175 "2010-07-19T14:27:20Z")
Will I be able to pick up the plot if I missed the First and Second Jihads, or should I move them up in my Netflix queue? ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-third-jihad-recommended-viewing/546953/176 "2010-07-19T14:51:47Z")
Kid, you got chops, but it ain’t considered a “callback” if it was [someone else’s joke](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12693726&postcount=70)… ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-third-jihad-recommended-viewing/546953/177 "2010-07-19T14:56:10Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Will I be able to pick up the plot if I missed the First and Second Jihads, or should I move them up in my Netflix queue? Actually, you are better off not seeing them. This one is essentially a reboot of the series. It has little to do with the first two installments, and even less to do with the book upon which they were based. And the leader is a cyborg-clone of Mohammed, not the original. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-third-jihad-recommended-viewing/546953/178 "2010-07-19T15:03:53Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Kid, you got chops, but it ain’t considered a “callback” if it was [someone else’s joke](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12693726&postcount=70)… It’s a five page thread, and I sure as hell wasn’t going to wade through the whole thing. Besides, my version was better. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-third-jihad-recommended-viewing/546953/179 "2010-07-19T16:03:33Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > I was thinking of watching the video, but since it is by a Muslim, (of whom I should be wary), I figured I could probably not trust it, anyway. I was going to give it a shot, but after I popped the handful of Xanax I just didn’t give a shit. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-third-jihad-recommended-viewing/546953/180 "2010-07-19T18:30:59Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > I was thinking of watching the video, but since it is by a Muslim, (of whom I should be wary), I figured I could probably not trust it, anyway. Good for you. But you’re overlooking the fact that Muslim apologists are another group we should be wary of, maybe even more so. So, you certainly or in a predicament: ignore the Muslim who is taking positive steps to stop his religion from being hijacked, or ignore your own little voice in your head. The one whose infatuation with being Politically Correct prevents him from adopting a mindset that will make America safer. Decisions, decisions… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-third-jihad-recommended-viewing/546953.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-third-jihad-recommended-viewing/546953.md?page=10)