# The Tighty Righty Surge or A Plague of Trogs

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 16, 2008, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tighty-righty-surge-or-a-plague-of-trogs/463872 "2008-09-16T19:02:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tighty-righty-surge-or-a-plague-of-trogs/463872/41 "2008-09-17T01:15:44Z")

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> [@RedFury](#):
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> Chuck Taylors are but a relic.

You can have my Chuck Taylors when you pry them from my cold, dead hands.  
Shu werrin. Ur doin it rong.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tighty-righty-surge-or-a-plague-of-trogs/463872/42 "2008-09-17T01:16:32Z")

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[QUOTE=JJ]  
And I doubt that Obama was a legacy.  
[/QUOTE]

Well, of course not, got there by grubbing for scholarships. Altogether _arriviste_, don’t you think? Liberal elitists lack proper breeding.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tighty-righty-surge-or-a-plague-of-trogs/463872/43 "2008-09-17T01:18:55Z")

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I gotta look up Chuck Taylor? Another ten seconds shot to hell!

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tighty-righty-surge-or-a-plague-of-trogs/463872/44 "2008-09-17T01:22:23Z")

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Some guy who sells sneakers? Fucking _sneakers_? You’re getting a bill for this, **Red**. (Euros preferred)

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tighty-righty-surge-or-a-plague-of-trogs/463872/45 "2008-09-17T01:22:30Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> This board tilts left worse than the Tower of Pisa. …

[Really?](http://images.google.com/images?ndsp=20&hl=en&newwindow=1&safe=off&q=Tower+of+Pisa&start=0&sa=N)

CMC +fnord!  
Actually it leans [southwest](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leaning_Tower_of_Pisa), which would only appear as a leftward lean if one were viewing it from the SE, while from the NW it has a decidedly rightward lean. Perspective is everything **Clothahump**.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tighty-righty-surge-or-a-plague-of-trogs/463872/46 "2008-09-17T01:32:19Z")

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> [@5-4-Fighting](#):
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> Why do people keep saying this?
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> Even when it was pay-to-pay, it cost the same $14.95 (or half) for everybody – tighty-righties and lefty-liberals. Either you’re suggesting conservatives have been poorer than liberals (nice choice in voting for your interests if the fiscal policies of the last few years that you _thought_would make you wealthier didn’t), or we’re seeing a bunch of new posters who now see a chance to give pixel-wedgies at no charge to them to those on a left-leaning board who wouldn’t have done so when that privilege cost them something.
> 
> Even if you’re suggesting that there are conservatives showing up now who didn’t want to pay for the privilege of being shouted down or drowned out, that wouldn’t happen anyway, pay or not, if they had someting reasonable, thoughtful and not-off-the-talking-points-bulletin-board to say, and could hold their own with regard.

I don’t think it has anything to do with pay-to-post, unless most of the conservative posters showing up now are returnees from the former pay-to-post days, which I take to be unlikely since **elucidator** seems to feel they’re new.

I think it’s because because of the fact that CL/SDMB is beginning to open the board up to the country at large, via Google and other means.

And if the population at large is beginning to find out about us, it only stands to reason that a much larger percentage of new posters will be conservatives.

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tighty-righty-surge-or-a-plague-of-trogs/463872/47 "2008-09-17T01:32:22Z")

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> [@Punoqllads](#):
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> You can have my Chuck Taylors when you pry them from my cold, dead hands.  
> Shu werrin. Ur doin it rong.

Hey! Big fan in the seventies when I wore them for HS and college B-ball – I even went as far out as to use their colored suede shoes wich would turn my (knee high) socks the same shade. That along with drugs, sex and R&R make me long for the good old days…which never were outside my mind. Simply means I can accept aging as opposed to “other” old farts.

Having said that don’t mess with my Sperry Top-Siders. The more beat-up the better of course…🆒

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**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tighty-righty-surge-or-a-plague-of-trogs/463872/48 "2008-09-17T01:47:16Z")

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Luce:

Hmmmm. Hadn’t really noticed. You may be right. Any chance of a cite with a bunch of these ruffians congegrating? Can you name names?

Frankly, if what you say is true, I’ll be upset as none of them have reported to me, Supreme Commander of the Right Wing Resistance.

I would hate to think they started the rebellion without me.

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tighty-righty-surge-or-a-plague-of-trogs/463872/49 "2008-09-17T01:49:47Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Some guy who sells sneakers? Fucking _sneakers_? You’re getting a bill for this, **Red**. (Euros preferred)

Ha! Billing _moi_ for teaching _you_ a significant niche of Americana? And in Euros no less…why I ought to blow a gasket over this. :mad:

Keep giving them’ hell, **'luc**! Esta vez, no _pueden_ pasar.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tighty-righty-surge-or-a-plague-of-trogs/463872/50 "2008-09-17T01:52:00Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> It appears to have a cyclical nature, but I’m curious as to what triggers it, or if anything triggers it at all.

The latest batch of freshman just finished reading Atlas Shrugged and now they’re all full piss and vinegar and fire and vitriol and ready to give the world what fer. They’ll show us. They’ll show us all.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tighty-righty-surge-or-a-plague-of-trogs/463872/51 "2008-09-17T01:59:28Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> I don’t think it has anything to do with pay-to-post, unless most of the conservative posters showing up now are returnees from the former pay-to-post days, which I take to be unlikely since **elucidator** seems to feel they’re new…

If the date says Sep, 2008, I leap to conclusion that these are acolytes of the jackal-headed god, Anewbies.

> [@](#):
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> …I think it’s because because of the fact that CL/SDMB is beginning to open the board up to the country at large, via Google and other means.
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> And if the population at large is beginning to find out about us, it only stands to reason that a much larger percentage of new posters will be conservatives.

Uh, wha? Huh? The Board is on the net, how much more “available” is possible, how do you “open up” more than that? The SDMb was invisible to some segment of the population, but now it isn’t? A guy in Zambia can download hamster porn with Hungarian subtitles but can’t find the SDMB?

And once we clear this hurdle, we get a lot more conservative input because the world outside largely agrees with you? Look, **Starv** , tequila and bongwater chasers just isn’t for amateurs. you’re not ready.

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tighty-righty-surge-or-a-plague-of-trogs/463872/52 "2008-09-17T02:03:53Z")

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> [@Scylla](#):
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> …Supreme Commander of the Right Wing Resistance

I think you mean “Supreme Commander Of The Oppressive And Abusive Ruling Class.” You know, the ones that make murderous wars out of full cloth and take your country’s economy down the crapper.

And no, you’ll have no part of _our_ revolution – you had your chance and then some. Not even Jane Fonda’s re-indoctrination Camp can help you now…hell I doubt at this late date **'luc** could get you in there even with his all his political weight.

Maybe _afterwards_.

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**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tighty-righty-surge-or-a-plague-of-trogs/463872/53 "2008-09-17T02:05:45Z")

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> [@The\_Tooth](#):
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> The latest batch of freshman just finished reading Atlas Shrugged and now they’re all full piss and vinegar and fire and vitriol and ready to give the world what fer. They’ll show us. They’ll show us all.

Hi 😃

I’m so vain, I probably think this thread is about me.

I’m atheist, fiscally conservative, and socially liberal, and I’m ready to take all comers in GD (not like that, you pervs).

I’ve been reading these boards for a while (and I mean a while, probably since 2000 or so), so I’m sure I’ll be accused of sock puppetry one day when I display my knowledge of board members etc.

I’m not sure why I decided to start posting. Maybe I felt this board was getting even more left than it historically has been. Maybe I’m a masochist. Maybe I needed a new hobby. Not having to pay made it easier just to register and start firing off vitriol without worrying about finding my wallet or having to tell my wife why I was interested in straightening dope on the intarwebs.

In any event, I think I’m kind of a shitty poster so far. I’m prone to drive-bys and one-line snarks. The reason may be that all day long I think about, research, and write out cogent arguments on a wide variety of subjects (I’m a lawyer), so at night I don’t have the energy to put my thoughts down coherently. Also, a lot of times I feel that others’ posts are difficult to respond to because they aren’t even wrong, just :dubious:, and it would take years to get the person up to speed to understand life beyond Obama’s nutsack on their chin.

But my promise to you, dear reader, is to at least try to add some value by issue spotting and elucidating from the atheist fiscally conservative socially liberal angle. (That last sentence would probably be the best one to quote in your reply to “save it, dude, and leave us alone.”)

As a straight white male who makes over $250K per year (by myself! the wife makes money too!) who plans to make over $600K per year within the next 8 years, I’m really accustomed to being the enemy. (This would probably be the second best sentence to quote.) So, I’m here, I’m queer, so start getting used to it.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tighty-righty-surge-or-a-plague-of-trogs/463872/54 "2008-09-17T02:18:12Z")

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A straight guy who describes himself as “queer”? Damn, I hate it when I have to ask my son to explain stuff.

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tighty-righty-surge-or-a-plague-of-trogs/463872/55 "2008-09-17T02:21:28Z")

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> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> …and it would take years to get the person up to speed to understand life beyond Obama’s nutsack on their chin.

As opposed to decades of Noah-like patience it would take you realize what [most of the world](http://pewglobal.org/commentary/display.php?AnalysisID=1019) and half of your countrymen and women have already figured, namely, that Bush’s term and his politics have only led America down the gutter. Literally and morally.

Want more? McSame and Caribou Barbie is your ticket.

Just don’t say you weren’t warned about becoming international pariahs…

Rah rah! USA #?!

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**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tighty-righty-surge-or-a-plague-of-trogs/463872/56 "2008-09-17T02:21:37Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Is it just my imagination, a flashback, or some other organic misfiring of synapses? Does it seem to anybody else that the Board is experiencing another influcks from the hysterically rightward end of the spectrum?
> 
> **I dimly recall this sort of thing has happened before, and is usually mercifully brief, they arrive, they blither, they vanish.** (bolding mine) Yet I wonder what the causative thingy might be. Sun spots? Obama? Do other message boards recruit trolling teams to harrass the reality-based community? And why us, why couldn’t they wait for _Daily Kos_ or \*Move On \*to start over the bridge.
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> Is it the recent move towards “free” posting, these suckas are too cheap to bother us if they have to pay? Is it seasonal, like the cicadas or head lice? Have they offered us any sort of ransom deal, they’ll go away if we give them some money, or lupins?
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> **Who are they? What do they want? When will they leave?** (bolding mine)

Well, they are the ones who will elect another pubbie for prez. Just to piss you off. Yank yer chain.

That must irritate the living shit outta you. Cheers!

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tighty-righty-surge-or-a-plague-of-trogs/463872/57 "2008-09-17T02:23:04Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> I think it’s because because of the fact that CL/SDMB is beginning to open the board up to the country at large, via Google and other means.

I don’t think that has been implemented yet.

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**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tighty-righty-surge-or-a-plague-of-trogs/463872/58 "2008-09-17T02:24:43Z")

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> [@RedFury](#):
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> I think you mean “Supreme Commander Of The Oppressive And Abusive Ruling Class.” You know, the ones that make murderous wars out of full cloth and take your country’s economy down the crapper.

I thought you were going to buy a decent pair of shoes.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tighty-righty-surge-or-a-plague-of-trogs/463872/59 "2008-09-17T02:29:02Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Uh, wha? Huh? The Board is on the net, how much more “available” is possible, how do you “open up” more than that? The SDMb was invisible to some segment of the population, but now it isn’t? A guy in Zambia can download hamster porn with Hungarian subtitles but can’t find the SDMB?

They have to know or find out we’re here before they can find us, yes/no? The board changes that are underway include making the board searchable to search engines, and additional promotional efforts are underway as well. I believe it was either **jdavis** or **Ed Zotti** who, ahem, elucidated it (It’s a two-fer!:D), but unfortunately I can’t be arsed to fight your ignorance on it at the moment. Perhaps you’ll use our shiny new and very speedy (no, really!) seach function to find it for yourself.

> [@elucidator](#):
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> And once we clear this hurdle, we get a lot more conservative input because the world outside largely agrees with you?

Shirley your powers of discernment are better than this. The outside world isn’t ‘largely’ in agreement with me, only 50% or so. Thus, one may deduce that if the board is drawing posters from the general population, 50% of them will be conservative. This means the current balance of at least 98% to 2% ratio in favor of you guys may well be in jeopardy.

> [@elucidator](#):
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> Look, **Starv** , tequila and bongwater chasers just isn’t for amateurs. you’re not ready.

Silly hippie! The stuff I drink would grow hair on your chest. (Well, besides the two that are already there.)

Cheers.

ETA: Thanks, **Fear Itself**. I was of the impression it had begun but maybe it really is just a surge of previous posters. If so…[Emily Litella] nevermind. [/Emily Litella}

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**Author:** ![Katriona](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/katriona/32/113_2.png) [@Katriona](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Katriona)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tighty-righty-surge-or-a-plague-of-trogs/463872/60 "2008-09-17T02:32:20Z")

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Fake PUMAs trying to earn their “McCain Points” by getting the talking points out?

[http://www.johnmccain.com/ActionCenter/BlogInteract/BlogInteract.aspx](http://www.johnmccain.com/ActionCenter/BlogInteract/BlogInteract.aspx)

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