# The Tim Horton's Craveable Crispy Chicken Sandwich

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 18, 2023, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tim-hortons-craveable-crispy-chicken-sandwich/979970 "2023-02-18T02:24:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2023, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tim-hortons-craveable-crispy-chicken-sandwich/979970/21 "2023-02-18T17:53:18Z")

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Was a Canadian fresh donuts and coffee place, very successful, product uniformity and reliability, as well as cleanliness and prompt service, across the country.

It was purchased by a US firm, and promptly switched to frozen donuts, they defrost and decorate. Uniformity disappeared.No more fresh coffee every 20mins. Service and cleanliness suffered as the franchisees weren’t being very well vetted. As profits dropped they began to cut corners, on already not great food.

Then they decided to move into hot sandwiches and such. Slowed already bad service, food quality now near zero.

They 100% deserve what’s coming for them, in my opinion.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2023, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tim-hortons-craveable-crispy-chicken-sandwich/979970/22 "2023-02-18T18:02:47Z")

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> [@elbows](#):
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> It was purchased by a US firm, and promptly switched to frozen donuts, they defrost and decorate.

I think the switch was inevitable. They had already started the “Grow as fast as humanly possible” and “Sell lunch” plans before Joyce sold it off. Going to cheaper frozen pre-made stuff was logistically inevitable and started before they merged with Wendy’s.

Of course, they didn’t stay American for long; Wendy’s sold all the stock off, and then they merged with a Brazilian firm that owns Burger King, but Tim Horton’s is headquartered in Oakville because the Harper government refused to allow the merger without guarantees about Canadian leadership and employees. Ownership changes are generally pretty risky for a company’s product and service quality.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2023, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tim-hortons-craveable-crispy-chicken-sandwich/979970/23 "2023-02-18T18:27:44Z")

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> [@elbows](#):
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> It was purchased by a US firm

I was feeling guilty for being so critical of a “Canadian” icon, even though I felt it was richly deserved. I feel much less guilty now. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2023, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tim-hortons-craveable-crispy-chicken-sandwich/979970/24 "2023-02-19T00:25:25Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> en-cheapified too much

Encheapified. You can save another 3¢ by eliminating the hyphen.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2023, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tim-hortons-craveable-crispy-chicken-sandwich/979970/25 "2023-02-19T04:33:30Z")

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> [@Dag\_Otto](#):
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> Encheapified. You can save another 3¢ by eliminating the hyphen.

Yes, but you save FIVE cents by using a pre-made frozen hyphen from the punctuation commissary.

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2023, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tim-hortons-craveable-crispy-chicken-sandwich/979970/26 "2023-02-19T05:06:49Z")

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Yes, but then that money would go to that worthless Ryan Reynolds at “MINT-hyphen”.

( and Ryan Reynolds reminds me way too much of the skin that forms on top of bad Poutine Gravy )

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**Post date:** [February 19, 2023, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tim-hortons-craveable-crispy-chicken-sandwich/979970/27 "2023-02-19T05:22:50Z")

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If I get something to eat at Tim Horton’s, I usually stick with the chili. Tastes like fast food chili.

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**Author:** ![up2eleven](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/up2eleven/32/13432_2.png) [@up2eleven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up2eleven)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2023, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tim-hortons-craveable-crispy-chicken-sandwich/979970/28 "2023-02-19T05:46:58Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> 1. adj: cringeworthy advertising puffery

Fuck, I love this.

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2023, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tim-hortons-craveable-crispy-chicken-sandwich/979970/29 "2023-02-19T05:48:26Z")

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I gave up on Timmie’s years ago. At one point, they were reliably an okay cup of coffee and mediocre but adequate donuts. (They switched to the frozen distribution model before they really registered on my radar. Out west Robin’s Donuts occupied their market niche prior to Tim’s push for massive expansion.) Their menu aside from that was a couple soup and sandwich options or a bowl of chili, all of which were decent. Then some time after Wendy’s bought them, not sure if it was before or after the Brazilian buyout, they started expanding the menu to compete with McD’s et al, and it’s all been downhill since. Breakfast sandwiches from a place that doesn’t have a grill? How does that work? Well, it works about as well as you’d expect microwaved breakfast sandwiches to work.

Still always lineups at the drivethrough. No idea why. For any food item they sell except maybe the donuts there’s a significantly better fast food option. Donuts only exempted from that statement since other fast food places generally don’t have donuts at all, not because the donuts are at all memorable these days.

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**Author:** ![FinsToTheLeft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finstotheleft/32/2930_2.png) [@FinsToTheLeft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinsToTheLeft)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2023, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tim-hortons-craveable-crispy-chicken-sandwich/979970/30 "2023-02-19T11:11:17Z")

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Among Tim’s problems are the menu is WAY too big. Advise to parent Restaurant Brands International: do not try and add Beef Wellington or Pad Thai to the menu. No one will buy it.

The other issue is one that most of North America is facing, retaining staff. We went to the drive through a while ago and it was horribly backed up. I ordered three drinks, the order taker repeated it back missing one but cut off before we could correct it. Upon getting to the window and explaining, we were told tough luck and get back in line if we wanted to get anything else. Not customer service at its finest.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2023, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tim-hortons-craveable-crispy-chicken-sandwich/979970/31 "2023-02-19T14:25:28Z")

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> [@FinsToTheLeft](#):
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> Among Tim’s problems are the menu is WAY too big. Advise to parent Restaurant Brands International

which is headquartered in…Toronto. 😃

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**Author:** ![FinsToTheLeft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finstotheleft/32/2930_2.png) [@FinsToTheLeft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinsToTheLeft)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2023, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tim-hortons-craveable-crispy-chicken-sandwich/979970/32 "2023-02-19T14:39:54Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> which is headquartered in…Toronto. 😃

About 6km from where I am lying in bed typing this. I don’t think they will give my opinion anymore weight due to proximity.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2023, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tim-hortons-craveable-crispy-chicken-sandwich/979970/33 "2023-02-19T17:16:13Z")

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> [@Gorsnak](#):
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> Breakfast sandwiches from a place that doesn’t have a grill? How does that work? Well, it works about as well as you’d expect microwaved breakfast sandwiches to work.

They now sell fries - or what they call potato wedges or something. Again, **they don’t have a deep fryer,** so where the hell are they coming from?

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2023, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tim-hortons-craveable-crispy-chicken-sandwich/979970/34 "2023-02-19T18:11:57Z")

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Went to a Tim Horton’s just last week. It was OK, considering that the oldest staff member (manager?) was about 17, and the rest of them younger. They were trying their best, but they’re working with sub-standard products and little to no training. The poor dude making my wrap was struggling, and it showed when I got it.

Staff turnover there must be amazing.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2023, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tim-hortons-craveable-crispy-chicken-sandwich/979970/35 "2023-02-20T02:10:57Z")

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Serious question: Do any of McDonald’s competitors have anything at all like “Hamburger University”?

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**Post date:** [February 20, 2023, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tim-hortons-craveable-crispy-chicken-sandwich/979970/36 "2023-02-20T02:30:57Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Serious question: Do any of McDonald’s competitors have anything at all like “Hamburger University”? -

Behold some of McDonald’s graduates.

> **[30 “Sad Meals” From McDonald’s Collected By This Instagram Account (New Pics)](https://www.boredpanda.com/worst-mcdonalds-burgers-mcsenget-part-2/)**
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> Promotional images of fast food burgers often mislead consumers, leading them to expect more than what they actually receive. The reality is often a poorly constructed burger (or any other unfortunate food item off the menu).

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**Post date:** [February 20, 2023, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tim-hortons-craveable-crispy-chicken-sandwich/979970/37 "2023-02-20T03:23:41Z")

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That’s lame. No explanation or context.

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**Post date:** [February 20, 2023, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tim-hortons-craveable-crispy-chicken-sandwich/979970/38 "2023-02-20T06:51:46Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Do any of McDonald’s competitors have anything at all like “Hamburger University”?

Wendy’s used to, an ex-girlfriend was a manager and went through a real training program at a facility somewhere. These days all of that is online only, probably because it’s easier and cheaper. But back in the late 90s at least, they sent people in leadership positions to get real training.

This was all so long ago I don’t remember any specifics, not that I had many to begin with.

> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> That’s lame. No explanation or context.

Agreed, and some of those photos were from other countries I’m sure. They had ingredients you don’t see on American menus or had another language in the written text in the photo. Pretty useless.

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**Post date:** [February 20, 2023, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tim-hortons-craveable-crispy-chicken-sandwich/979970/39 "2023-02-20T10:57:20Z")

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#2 is in Finland, judging by the “suola” (salt) packets.

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**Post date:** [February 20, 2023, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tim-hortons-craveable-crispy-chicken-sandwich/979970/40 "2023-02-20T12:05:43Z")

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Alas, Tim Hortons, one more thing destroyed by Americans.

(Unless the cardboard texture had nothing to do with the US acquisition?)

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