# The Tories' latest negative portrayal of Scots will not stand! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 28, 2015, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tories-latest-negative-portrayal-of-scots-will-not-stand/716215 "2015-03-28T16:07:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2015, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tories-latest-negative-portrayal-of-scots-will-not-stand/716215/1 "2015-03-28T16:07:20Z")
Yet again, Unionist propagandists use colonialist stereotypes of [Scots](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79c5JKjAQFg) as irrational and selfish as a way to try to discredit the SNP in the lead up to the election. But, as [this thread shows](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=752599), it’ll backfire on them and just increase support for Scottish independence. So I’m pitting narrowminded Unionists who don’t ever take a look at the bigger picture or the context of events, but instead just push their narrative regardless. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2015, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tories-latest-negative-portrayal-of-scots-will-not-stand/716215/2 "2015-03-28T16:11:38Z")
The Irish gave the Scots the bagpipe a thousand years ago. And the Scots never caught on. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2015, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tories-latest-negative-portrayal-of-scots-will-not-stand/716215/3 "2015-03-28T16:20:26Z")
We have a piper [down](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZ-RiV6l_Q8)! ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2015, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tories-latest-negative-portrayal-of-scots-will-not-stand/716215/4 "2015-03-28T16:54:52Z")
The mere act of posting [this](http://www.montrealgazette.com/opinion/editorial-cartoons/5958798.bin?size=620x400) should be enough to finally get Quebec to secede. ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2015, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tories-latest-negative-portrayal-of-scots-will-not-stand/716215/5 "2015-03-28T20:29:27Z")
of course it is only with a great reluctance you point this out. Who Posted? Total Posts: 54 User Name Posts [Pjen](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php)[22](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/search.php?do=finduser&userid=11894&searchthreadid=752599)[CarnalK](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php)[6](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/search.php?do=finduser&userid=7926&searchthreadid=752599)[Jackmannii](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php)[3](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/search.php?do=finduser&userid=10244&searchthreadid=752599)[foolsguinea](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php)[3](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/search.php?do=finduser&userid=4190&searchthreadid=752599)[amanset](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php)[2](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/search.php?do=finduser&userid=2255&searchthreadid=752599)[Ryan\_Liam](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php)[2](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/search.php?do=finduser&userid=27183&searchthreadid=752599)[Steophan](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php)[2](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/search.php?do=finduser&userid=91922&searchthreadid=752599)[PaulParkhead](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php)[2](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/search.php?do=finduser&userid=67949&searchthreadid=752599)[Baron Greenback](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php)[2](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/search.php?do=finduser&userid=60326&searchthreadid=752599)[Captain Amazing](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php)[2](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/search.php?do=finduser&userid=9827&searchthreadid=752599)[Ramira](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php)[2](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/search.php?do=finduser&userid=29501&searchthreadid=752599)[filmstar-en](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php)[1](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/search.php?do=finduser&userid=151743&searchthreadid=752599)[Frank](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php)[1](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/search.php?do=finduser&userid=23639&searchthreadid=752599)[thelurkinghorror](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php)[1](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/search.php?do=finduser&userid=59854&searchthreadid=752599)[ElvisL1ves](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php)[1](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/search.php?do=finduser&userid=8220&searchthreadid=752599)[John DiFool](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php)[1](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/search.php?do=finduser&userid=59566&searchthreadid=752599)[mascaroni](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php)[1](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/search.php?do=finduser&userid=31446&searchthreadid=752599) ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2015, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tories-latest-negative-portrayal-of-scots-will-not-stand/716215/6 "2015-03-28T20:51:17Z")
Can we start a separate forum for **Pjen** to breathlessly announce the widening cracks in the fabric of union? We could call it The Bairn House or something. ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2015, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tories-latest-negative-portrayal-of-scots-will-not-stand/716215/7 "2015-03-28T22:44:08Z")
The long-term wide-ranging 2010 UK General Election thread was pretty good, as these things go. Lively at points - I picked up a warning I think - but informative and good natured for the most part. The UK posters and interested others are a good bunch, in my experience. UK politics threads over the past year or two, however, they’ve been rather dominated by one poster. **Malden** had a valiant attempt at issue based GE2015 topics to get a non-independence discussion going, but the UK (plus interested) poster base seemingly isn’t big enough to sustain that. Ah well. Thanks **Pjen** , you’ve bored everyone into submission! ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2015, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tories-latest-negative-portrayal-of-scots-will-not-stand/716215/8 "2015-03-28T23:35:09Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Can we start a separate forum for **Pjen** to breathlessly announce the widening cracks in the fabric of union? We could call it The Bairn House or something. Too bad there isn’t a rule against starting thread after thread about the same subject… ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2015, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tories-latest-negative-portrayal-of-scots-will-not-stand/716215/9 "2015-03-28T23:41:21Z")
Things should get interesting shortly with the release of the manifestos. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2015, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tories-latest-negative-portrayal-of-scots-will-not-stand/716215/10 "2015-03-29T12:22:53Z")
Um…correct me if I’ve missed something, but has Pjen managed to hijack this thread without actually even posting in it??! ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2015, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tories-latest-negative-portrayal-of-scots-will-not-stand/716215/11 "2015-03-29T13:04:09Z")
Yes you did ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2015, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tories-latest-negative-portrayal-of-scots-will-not-stand/716215/12 "2015-03-29T13:13:51Z")
The problem with this thread, versus those of **Pjen** , is that I figured out what **Captain Amazing** was talking about right away. No spittle-flecked, contextless dropping of names of people I’ve never heard of, though I’m fairly well-read. OTOH, I know who Scrooge McDuck is. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2015, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tories-latest-negative-portrayal-of-scots-will-not-stand/716215/13 "2015-03-29T20:47:24Z")
I simply don’t read a thread that **Pjen** starts, and if she shows up in a thread, à la Cthulu, I tend to drop that thread from the threads I check. Once she shows up, there’s simply no point reading or trying to participate. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2015, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tories-latest-negative-portrayal-of-scots-will-not-stand/716215/14 "2015-03-29T20:59:31Z")
On re-reading that post, I think I made a mistake in comparing her to Cthulu. She’s not nearly as powerful or terrifying for the analogy to work. She’s more like an uninformed banshee, keening and wailing, but outside the wrong house and the wrong day. Yes, the Emily Litella of banshees. That’s more accurate n ---
**Author:** ![Ryan\_Liam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ryan_liam/32/3965_2.png) [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2015, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tories-latest-negative-portrayal-of-scots-will-not-stand/716215/15 "2015-03-30T00:57:14Z")
I thought Pjen was a guy! ---
**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2015, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tories-latest-negative-portrayal-of-scots-will-not-stand/716215/16 "2015-03-30T01:11:43Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > Um…correct me if I’ve missed something, but has Pjen managed to hijack this thread without actually even posting in it??! I’m also lost. I have no idea what the op is about nor why the thread suddenly turned into pjen-bashing. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2015, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tories-latest-negative-portrayal-of-scots-will-not-stand/716215/17 "2015-03-30T01:50:58Z")
There’s nothing sudden about it. This thread has always been about Pjen, thus the linking of a Pjen thread in the OP. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2015, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tories-latest-negative-portrayal-of-scots-will-not-stand/716215/18 "2015-03-30T01:51:23Z")
> [@SciFiSam](#): > > I’m also lost. I have no idea what the op is about nor why the thread suddenly turned into pjen-bashing. 😕 Not sure if you’re just being sarcastic, but just in case, the OP is about pjen – she’s basically a one-trick pony who posts about nothing but Scottish independence. Well, and the occassional thread about how much America sucks, and how Europe is such a paradise in comparison. ---
**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2015, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tories-latest-negative-portrayal-of-scots-will-not-stand/716215/19 "2015-03-30T02:23:34Z")
Nope, not being sarcastic at all. If you haven’t read that thread then it’s really not obvious how the op is supposed to be a joke or parody or whatever it actually is supposed to be. I am English and have participated in a couple of threads about the referendum but had no idea that all of UK politics in this board is now apparently dominated by one person. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2015, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tories-latest-negative-portrayal-of-scots-will-not-stand/716215/20 "2015-03-30T02:32:41Z")
> [@SciFiSam](#): > > Nope, not being sarcastic at all. If you haven’t read that thread then it’s really not obvious how the op is supposed to be a joke or parody or whatever it actually is supposed to be. I am English and have participated in a couple of threads about the referendum but had no idea that all of UK politics in this board is now apparently dominated by one person. It’s not. Only the bad parts are. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-tories-latest-negative-portrayal-of-scots-will-not-stand/716215.md?page=2)