# The Toyota woman gets less attractive in each successive commercial. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 31, 2015, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-toyota-woman-gets-less-attractive-in-each-successive-commercial/729555 "2015-08-31T23:24:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2015, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-toyota-woman-gets-less-attractive-in-each-successive-commercial/729555/61 "2015-09-01T19:14:44Z")
> [@Reluctant\_A](#): > > I tend to agree with that but, in my experience, I have found that women who look good with red hair also look good with hair of any other color. With the exception of Laura Prepon, who should not dye her hair blonde, ever again. I would tend toward the opposite opinion, actually; for those who look good with red hair another color never seems quite right. Diane Neal went from red to blonde during her time on _Law & Order: SVU_ and the change didn’t work. I always assumed it was the case that natural redheads could pull it off but anything unnatural never quite looked right. Morgan Smith Goodwin, however, is a natural blonde but looks fantastic as Red. ---
**Author:** ![Pashnish\_Ewing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8797f3/32.png) [@Pashnish\_Ewing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pashnish_Ewing)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2015, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-toyota-woman-gets-less-attractive-in-each-successive-commercial/729555/62 "2015-09-01T19:23:43Z")
> [@MrAtoz](#): > > Morgan Smith Goodwin’s character in the Wendy’s commercials is named [Red](https://www.yahoo.com/food/just-who-is-that-wendys-girl-91879897281.html), not Wendy. Apologies to Morgan Smith Goodwin. ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2015, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-toyota-woman-gets-less-attractive-in-each-successive-commercial/729555/63 "2015-09-01T20:05:49Z")
> [@Slithy\_Tove](#): > > \*\*The Toyota woman gets less attractive in each successive commercial. \*\* > > “She had uttered a mad wish that she herself might remain young, and the commercials grow old; that her own beauty might be untarnished, and the face on the screen bear the burden of her passions and her sins; that the televised image might be seared with the lines of suffering and thought, and that she might keep all the delicate bloom and loveliness of her then just conscious girlhood. Surely her wish had not been fulfilled? Such things were impossible. It seemed monstrous even to think of them. And, yet, there was the ad before her, with the touch of cruelty in the mouth.” Kudos! All the kudos! ---
**Author:** ![Stringbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Stringbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringbean)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2015, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-toyota-woman-gets-less-attractive-in-each-successive-commercial/729555/64 "2015-09-01T22:38:05Z")
Somewhere, the paint on a Camry steadily grows in allure. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2015, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-toyota-woman-gets-less-attractive-in-each-successive-commercial/729555/65 "2015-09-01T23:43:53Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Red hair doesn’t always work, but when it does it works very well. A natural red head with everything that goes along with it like pale skin, freckles, thin lips, etc can be a great thing. However a woman who just dyes her hair red isn’t really that special in my experience. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2015, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-toyota-woman-gets-less-attractive-in-each-successive-commercial/729555/66 "2015-09-01T23:45:27Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > A natural red head with everything that goes along with it like pale skin, freckles, thin lips, etc can be a great thing. However a woman who just dyes her hair red isn’t really that special in my experience. I can think of at least one thing you left out of that description. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2015, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-toyota-woman-gets-less-attractive-in-each-successive-commercial/729555/67 "2015-09-01T23:45:31Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > I also just love the idea of the Adonis’ of the SDMB evaluating the beauty of various women. It isn’t like average looking women don’t judge and rate great looking men. We are all pigs living in fantasy-land here, lets not kid ourselves. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2015, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-toyota-woman-gets-less-attractive-in-each-successive-commercial/729555/68 "2015-09-02T00:23:47Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > A natural red head with everything that goes along with it like pale skin, freckles, thin lips, etc can be a great thing. However a woman who just dyes her hair red isn’t really that special in my experience. Agreed 100%. Given the number of women I’ve dated prior to my wife (not a lot, but not a little either), the ratio of redheads (always natural) to all women dated was way out of whack with their population distribution. And that’s not counting the ones who turned me away! Despite every one of them turning out to be Satan’s offspring, I just couldn’t help myself. But that is also probably why I didn’t end up married to one. By comparison, I’ve only ever dated, and not for long, one blonde. A person’s tastes can be fickle. ---
**Author:** ![Iggins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Iggins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Iggins)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2015, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-toyota-woman-gets-less-attractive-in-each-successive-commercial/729555/69 "2015-09-02T00:41:17Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > AT&T lily is a wee bit hotter than the other three. > > [https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQYJFelFsfISTW5OvRIWTVZJQJHvOOY3uSx6SHLG5ByfPG\_P3\_faw](https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQYJFelFsfISTW5OvRIWTVZJQJHvOOY3uSx6SHLG5ByfPG_P3_faw) Smoking hotness notwithstanding, I don’t believe that is a picture of AT&T’s extraordinary Lily, [Milana Vayntrub](http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTQzOTM3MzUyNF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTgwODQ2MTIzNTE@._V1_SX640_SY720_.jpg). ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2015, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-toyota-woman-gets-less-attractive-in-each-successive-commercial/729555/70 "2015-09-02T01:05:26Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > It isn’t like average looking women don’t judge and rate great looking men. We are all pigs living in fantasy-land here, lets not kid ourselves. …Meanwhile, somewhere on 6th Avenue… “Boss…! The new ratings book is here! The new ratings book is here!” “Its about Damned time! Are we up…? Are we down…?” “I’m not sure; some of the pages are stuck together and it smells like wet camels…” ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2015, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-toyota-woman-gets-less-attractive-in-each-successive-commercial/729555/71 "2015-09-02T02:29:03Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > It isn’t like average looking women don’t judge and rate great looking men. We are all pigs living in fantasy-land here, lets not kid ourselves. I don’t remember too many threads where the women of the Dope picking apart the looks of men the way the men of the Dope do for women. In these threads, I always picture the posters who are dissecting the beauty of young actresses as looking something like a less sexy version of Gary Gygax. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2015, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-toyota-woman-gets-less-attractive-in-each-successive-commercial/729555/72 "2015-09-02T02:52:03Z")
> [@Iggins](#): > > Smoking hotness notwithstanding, I don’t believe that is a picture of AT&T’s extraordinary Lily, [Milana Vayntrub](http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTQzOTM3MzUyNF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTgwODQ2MTIzNTE@._V1_SX640_SY720_.jpg). You are correct, the website I got it from was comparing her to Lana Tailor, who is actually in the picture. My bad. > **[12468: AT&T&A With Milana Vayntrub.](http://multicultclassics.blogspot.com/2015/02/12468-at-with-milana-vayntrub.html)** > > AT&T is not making the best use of Milana Vayntrub—she could be the next Carly Foulkes . ---
**Author:** ![russian\_heel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f05b48/32.png) [@russian\_heel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/russian_heel)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2015, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-toyota-woman-gets-less-attractive-in-each-successive-commercial/729555/73 "2015-09-02T05:44:15Z")
Don’t be talking shit about Jan, Bro, she’s my pitchwoman crush. She stole me away from Flo, thought lately T-Mobile Lily has been making inappropriate passes, and Im getting creepy suicidal stalker phone calls from Flo, tugging at my heart strings. Why must imaginary love be so complicated? ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2015, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-toyota-woman-gets-less-attractive-in-each-successive-commercial/729555/74 "2015-09-02T13:20:23Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > Agreed 100%. Given the number of women I’ve dated prior to my wife (not a lot, but not a little either), the ratio of redheads (always natural) to all women dated was way out of whack with their population distribution. And that’s not counting the ones who turned me away! Despite every one of them turning out to be Satan’s offspring, I just couldn’t help myself. \ i dated one redhead. Early 1980s, down in Santa Barbara. She was a great gal, a lot of fun, and not hot tempered. They are out there. > [@D\_Odds](#): > > By comparison, I’ve only ever dated, and not for long, one blonde. A person’s tastes can be fickle. Again in my Santa Barbara days, where there are many Southern California blondes, I dated several. It was a streak of blondes. It was a phase I went through. Fond memories, all of them, including the redhead. Interestingly, the one Satan’s Child I encountered was not a redhead, she was a brunette. Man, was she possessed. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2015, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-toyota-woman-gets-less-attractive-in-each-successive-commercial/729555/75 "2015-09-02T13:28:19Z")
> [@Iggins](#): > > Smoking hotness notwithstanding, I don’t believe that is a picture of AT&T’s extraordinary Lily, [Milana Vayntrub](http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTQzOTM3MzUyNF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTgwODQ2MTIzNTE@._V1_SX640_SY720_.jpg). Nice. To her credit there aren’t slutty pictures of her out there. ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2015, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-toyota-woman-gets-less-attractive-in-each-successive-commercial/729555/76 "2015-09-02T13:36:17Z")
Marry Jan, screw Lily, and for god’s sake kill Flo. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2015, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-toyota-woman-gets-less-attractive-in-each-successive-commercial/729555/77 "2015-09-02T13:44:27Z")
> [@Green\_Bean](#): > > Please note that **Stringbean** is not **Green Bean**. I am not Stringbean, and I do not endorse this message. I would fully support an ATMB thread asking for permission to stalk Stringbean and post this in the first few comments. Sure, I know which is which _now_, especially as I’m posting this. But give it two days and I’ll be back to confusing the two. I guess I could rely on the Crazyometer, but how do I know you don’t have some zany opinions I’ve cross attributed? Hmmm :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2015, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-toyota-woman-gets-less-attractive-in-each-successive-commercial/729555/78 "2015-09-02T14:41:50Z")
> [@Slithy\_Tove](#): > > \*\*The Toyota woman gets less attractive in each successive commercial. \*\* > > “She had uttered a mad wish that she herself might remain young, and the commercials grow old; that her own beauty might be untarnished, and the face on the screen bear the burden of her passions and her sins; that the televised image might be seared with the lines of suffering and thought, and that she might keep all the delicate bloom and loveliness of her then just conscious girlhood. Surely her wish had not been fulfilled? Such things were impossible. It seemed monstrous even to think of them. And, yet, there was the ad before her, with the touch of cruelty in the mouth.” And then one day she totaled her Toyota, and all the years of broadcasting descended upon her at once, and in an instant she had aged to a Hollywood-unattractive woman, and then to a pile of dust, which was buried under an avalanche of accumulated residuals. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2015, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-toyota-woman-gets-less-attractive-in-each-successive-commercial/729555/79 "2015-09-02T14:44:16Z")
> [@Bullitt](#): > > i dated one redhead. Early 1980s, down in Santa Barbara. She was a great gal, a lot of fun, and not hot tempered. They are out there. You didn’t date her long enough. She was setting you up. Despite knowing this, were I single, I bet there would be a 50% chance my next ladyfriend would be a redhead. ---
**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2015, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-toyota-woman-gets-less-attractive-in-each-successive-commercial/729555/80 "2015-09-02T16:03:51Z")
Sprint has apparently jumped into the hot ad girl fray with [this](http://www.ispot.tv/ad/79t1/sprint-iphone-6-iphone-forever-revolution) girl. I’ve seen her in at least two Sprint commercials now. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-toyota-woman-gets-less-attractive-in-each-successive-commercial/729555.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-toyota-woman-gets-less-attractive-in-each-successive-commercial/729555.md?page=5)